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Postby Oracle » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:10 pm

roseandchan wrote:does that mean they get discounted flights?


So long as they were not return tickets ... :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:50 am

I'm bumping this thread up as I sense Bill wants to discuss his plots / property in the north ...

I suggest this as a suitable platform as the facts are at hand ...
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Postby Bill » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:51 am

Oracle wrote:I'm bumping this thread up as I sense Bill wants to discuss his plots / property in the north ...

I suggest this as a suitable platform as the facts are at hand ...


Property ~ did I say property ~ your covert conversations with DT are clouding your memory ~ or his :roll:

You just can't resist bringing this up time and time again can you ~ are you trying to make me feel guilty :?

You really should have listened to Jerry's excellent advice and dropped your apparent crusade against me . :)

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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:09 am

Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'm bumping this thread up as I sense Bill wants to discuss his plots / property in the north ...

I suggest this as a suitable platform as the facts are at hand ...


Property ~ did I say property ~ your covert conversations with DT are clouding your memory ~ or his :roll:

You just can't resist bringing this up time and time again can you ~ are you trying to make me feel guilty :?

You really should have listened to Jerry's excellent advice and dropped your apparent crusade against me . :)

Bill ~~~~~~ the maggot :lol:


You are wrong ... I am not interested ... but I will supply any evidence to the contrary when people are clearly distorting something that affects my country ...

DT. wrote:If you don;'t mind me asking was the property you own in the north GC owned or TC owned?


Bill wrote:I didn't say I owned "property" in the north but I did state that I have a joint ownership / partnership in a couple of nice plots over there ~ there was absolutely no mention of any property involved.

Bill


DT. wrote:thought i read somwhere you own property in the norht but prefer to live in the south. Nevermind. Were the plots GC land or TC land?


Oracle wrote:Clarity ....


Bill wrote:I already have a couple of plots in the north as it is but I'm quite happy in Larnaca as a place to live ~ more like a proper place rather than a pro military state .

Although the northern parts of the island are very pretty and steeped in history I don't think it's the right time go and live there just yet.

Nice try though

Bill ~~~ with interests on both sides of the island



It was Jerry who then took up your gauntlet .. we were no longer interested other than clarifying the little matter of your contradiction regarding plots not being property ....
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Postby tessintrnc » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:18 am

Kifeas wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The golf course is very impressive and anywhere around there is beautiful, you are in the minority about thinking there will be a solution in our life times anyway.


Actually VP, the longer it takes to find peace, there's going to be more people who will lose their shirts who has/are investing in GC properties in the north. With time, the land value will keep on rising, which by the time peace comes, the legal owner/family will benefit from their properties appreciation in value in the north. Same for the TC's land in the south of course. It will be those who paid very little for the land before and now and built their dream homes on them, will have to pay many times more for the land than what the dream house cost to build.

Just a thought.!!


True, and WOW!! what about the actual golf course? Maybe similar compensation as larnaca airport? Or will the Greek Cyp landowner get it all? Is land appropriated by the government viewed differently (as far as compensation goes) to that used by individuals such as golf courses and holiday villages?
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Tess, sorry for bursting your bubble, but Larnaka airport is seating on 800 donums of land and only about 50 belong to TCs! The rest have been appropriated from GCs!


Its ok, wasn't my "bubble" to burst anyway!!! Thanks for clarifying,

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Postby DT. » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:25 am

Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'm bumping this thread up as I sense Bill wants to discuss his plots / property in the north ...

I suggest this as a suitable platform as the facts are at hand ...


Property ~ did I say property ~ your covert conversations with DT are clouding your memory ~ or his :roll:

You just can't resist bringing this up time and time again can you ~ are you trying to make me feel guilty :?

You really should have listened to Jerry's excellent advice and dropped your apparent crusade against me . :)

Bill ~~~~~~ the maggot :lol:


I asked you a simple question Bill. Hardly a crusade :roll: mehinks you attach a little too much self-importance.

If you don't want to answer just say "None of your business DT" but FFS save us from the melodrama, you sound like a Jodie Foster movie.
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:50 am

DT. wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'm bumping this thread up as I sense Bill wants to discuss his plots / property in the north ...

I suggest this as a suitable platform as the facts are at hand ...


Property ~ did I say property ~ your covert conversations with DT are clouding your memory ~ or his :roll:

You just can't resist bringing this up time and time again can you ~ are you trying to make me feel guilty :?

You really should have listened to Jerry's excellent advice and dropped your apparent crusade against me . :)

Bill ~~~~~~ the maggot :lol:


I asked you a simple question Bill. Hardly a crusade :roll: mehinks you attach a little too much self-importance.

If you don't want to answer just say "None of your business DT" but FFS save us from the melodrama, you sound like a Jodie Foster movie.


Just return back to Cyprus ......

Mind your own business DT !
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Postby Bill » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:11 pm

DT. wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:I'm bumping this thread up as I sense Bill wants to discuss his plots / property in the north ...

I suggest this as a suitable platform as the facts are at hand ...


Property ~ did I say property ~ your covert conversations with DT are clouding your memory ~ or his :roll:

You just can't resist bringing this up time and time again can you ~ are you trying to make me feel guilty :?

You really should have listened to Jerry's excellent advice and dropped your apparent crusade against me . :)

Bill ~~~~~~ the maggot :lol:


I asked you a simple question Bill. Hardly a crusade :roll: mehinks you attach a little too much self-importance.

If you don't want to answer just say "None of your business DT" but FFS save us from the melodrama, you sound like a Jodie Foster movie.


Now come on DT lets be sensible about this ~ I accused Oracle of a crusade not you ~ I failed to answer your original question as it's one you shouldn't need to ask.

Go back to my original admission and have a look who it was in reply to and perhaps you might see the light .

Now if you really needed to ask that question my next post will really get you confused ~ but I would appreciate you views never the less.

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Postby Oracle » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:22 pm

Bill ...... Neither DT. nor I, are on any crusade or we would have followed up the original posts. Simple. We quoted your contradiction regarding the term plots and property .... It's all above this post again :roll:

It was Jerry that persisted in continuing to advertise you, hence in leading your crusade ... and you with your relentless desire to gain replies by stupidities.

We have already established that Plots / Property were being referred to ... despite your clear lack of understanding.

Anything you wish to disclose is purely at your discretion otherwise shut up as no one else is interested in your excuses and attention seeking posts .....

You had the option of a clear response to DT. ..... but no ... then you would be denied further attention ...
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Postby Bill » Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:11 pm

Right here goes a valid question aimed mainly at GR and DT but of course it's open to anybodies valid comments.

I note the first post in this thread but I feel it's a bit one sided as it only mentions Turkish activity on GC land.

Can I ask the esteemed GR and DT what their views are on houses being built recently on TC land in the ROC.

I can understand and agree with the need to build on any land available after the mass influx of refugees from their homes in the north irrespective of whether it was Government land or TC land.

The refugee homes had to be built quickly and be near places where work could be found / established so I have no problems there but I can't understand 30 years after the event why people are still building on turkish land and we are not talking standard refugee housing I'm talking bloody big villas ~ I've quoted 30 years as that's when I noticed them springing up around 4 years ago.

Now before the TC mouthpieces start jumping up and down and start shouting, these houses are not built for foreigners to buy with dodgy deeds as you do in the north they are exclusively for refugees families ~ the plot is given to them by the government and the cost of the build is paid by the couple who will be living in the house and as it's TC land no deeds will be available

There are obvious pit falls in this building activity as if there is an eventual solution it will mean that the original owner ( a TC ) will find he has an estate of say 20 houses on his field ~ that is if the principle of preserving TC land until there is a solution is upheld.

No doubt this will make the TC owner extremely happy .

Seriously though if TC land has been preserved for the original owner to come back to excepting of course the obvious appropriations due to high ways airport etc, which would have happened whether or not there was a Cyprus problem ~ how will the poor folk who have invested around £100,000 plus to build a house be compensated .

Will they be asked to move ~ as they have no deeds they seem to be in a very precarious position ~ no wonder they don't look very happy with their situation at the moment .

I will repeat again for those forum members who seem to speed read and miss half a posts content these houses are not for general sale ~ they will not and can not be sold to foreign investors .

OK comments please.

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