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[iceman]

on the subject of stolen properties...

I spent two hours this morning with my next door neighbour discussing property issue....
This man is from Mouttaigaika Limassol and has left a lot of property there...This morning he had in his hand a VERY large file which cost him €2500 recently.
The file was land evaluation report by a very reputable Limassol company who specialise on propert evaluation.
After an extensive professional research the value for his property in Mouttaigaika has been estimated (12 separate title deeds) as €47.440.000 (forty seven million four hundred and forty)
Most of his land has been developed by ROC government,some of his land,(bang on the beachfront) has been turned into places like "Kyrenia Sailing Club" another one has been used to build a restaurant for some other association..
To sum it all up,he has the title deeds for property estimated at nearly €50million but all his land has been used by ROC for this or that excuse...


talk about stolen property

[kafenes]

It may be illegal, but plenty of Greek Cyps cross over to eat and shop every day. Do you want the borders closed again then?

Tess, if the borders close, can you imagine how many TCs will be out of work? I have always been for the closure of the borders until a solution is found.

[tessintrnc]

It may be illegal, but plenty of Greek Cyps cross over to eat and shop every day. Do you want the borders closed again then?

Tess, if the borders close, can you imagine how many TCs will be out of work? I have always been for the closure of the borders until a solution is found.

Oh, I wasn't suggesting it - it was a query plain and simple! Some I know refuse to cross over to the North out of principal, but many, many do and I was curious about certain forum members reaction and opinion of those that do cross over to the North?
Tess

[Tim Drayton]

It may be illegal, but plenty of Greek Cyps cross over to eat and shop every day. Do you want the borders closed again then?

Tess, if the borders close, can you imagine how many TCs will be out of work? I have always been for the closure of the borders until a solution is found.

Correct me if I am wrong, but your concept of a solution involves building a huge wall. You do not want open borders, full stop.

[Oracle]

on the subject of stolen properties...

I spent two hours this morning with my next door neighbour discussing property issue....
This man is from Mouttaigaika Limassol and has left a lot of property there...This morning he had in his hand a VERY large file which cost him €2500 recently.
The file was land evaluation report by a very reputable Limassol company who specialise on propert evaluation.
After an extensive professional research the value for his property in Mouttaigaika has been estimated (12 separate title deeds) as €47.440.000 (forty seven million four hundred and forty)
Most of his land has been developed by ROC government,some of his land,(bang on the beachfront) has been turned into places like "Kyrenia Sailing Club" another one has been used to build a restaurant for some other association..
To sum it all up,he has the title deeds for property estimated at nearly €50million but all his land has been used by ROC for this or that excuse...


talk about stolen property

What precisely is you problem ?

... that Turkey has not given you any more?

... or that the Cypriots loyal to the RoC are getting on with life (as near-enough)

Talk about greed

[roseandchan]

jasmin court casino would be empty if the border was to close

[Z4]

Property in occupied north Cyprus – the facts

Your questions answered

Some unscrupulous property developers and estate agents are attempting to sell stolen Greek Cypriot properties in the illegally occupied north of Cyprus. To tempt prospective purchasers to part with their money, a number of untruths are being made to unsuspecting British nationals. Please note the following answers to important issues.

Q Who owns the land and properties in occupied north Cyprus?
A Approximately 90 percent is owned by Greek Cypriots. It is most likely that any property being touted belongs to Greek Cypriot refugees, who according to UN resolutions have the right to return, but for the time being are prevented from doing so.

Q Are title-deeds issued by the regime in occupied north Cyprus legal?
A No. They are NOTworth the paper they are written on. The ethnically cleansed Greek Cypriots remain the legitimate holders of title-deeds, as reaffirmed by the European Court of Human Rights (Loizidou v Turkey 1996) and the English High Court (Orams v Apostolides 2006).

Q Has there been a ‘property exchange’in occupied Cyprus between Greek and Turkish Cypriots?
A No. Such an agreement HAS NOTtaken place as Greek Cypriots wish to return, but for the moment are unable to, due to the current illegal Turkish occupation. The distribution of false title-deeds by the occupation regime does not constitute a ‘property exchange’.

Q Is occupied ‘north Cyprus’a legal entity?
A No. It is part of the Republic of Cyprus which is under illegal Turkish occupation, in violation of international law. Therefore the laws and courts of the occupied territories are invalid and cannot provide legal remedy to any property disputes.

Q Is it legal to purchase Greek Cypriot property in occupied Cyprus?
A No. It is ILLEGALto exploit the properties of Greek Cypriots in occupied Cyprus. This can and has resulted in imprisonment in the free areas of the island.

Q But didn’t the English High Court rule that the Orams won the right to
remain on the land they ‘purchased’in occupied Cyprus?
A No. The Court reaffirmed that Mr Apostolides, a Greek Cypriot refugee remains the owner of his land and that the Orams are “trespassers”.

Q If there is a solution to the Cyprus occupation, will buyers keep any property they "purchased"?
A The British High Commission in Cyprus has warned that in the event of a solution "purchasers" risk losing illegally obtained property that belongs to Greek Cypriots.

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/

Good post Get Real

[tessintrnc]

It may be illegal, but plenty of Greek Cyps cross over to eat and shop every day. Do you want the borders closed again then?

Tess, if the borders close, can you imagine how many TCs will be out of work? I have always been for the closure of the borders until a solution is found.

Correct me if I am wrong, but your concept of a solution involves building a huge wall. You do not want open borders, full stop.

Who, me? I have always supported reunification, and peaceful settlement. I often visit my Sister-in-law in Paphos and have spoken to to a few of the neighbours (those that can understand english). They know where I live and I have had no problems with them. That is why I hope for a settlement, because I believe that they are representative of the Greek Cyps, rather than some of the twisted, racist idiots that post on here.
Tess

[pantheman]

It may be illegal, but plenty of Greek Cyps cross over to eat and shop every day. Do you want the borders closed again then?

Oh yes please. And I would shoot any B*gger who tried to cross over in either direction.

If the borders closed who do you think would suffer the most??

Go for it RoC, close them I dare you, and lets watch these theiving scumbags suffer some real isolation.

[roseandchan]

so according to the u.n. greek cypriots own 90% of the land?