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Postby -mikkie2- » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:18 pm

garbitsch wrote:How about we take our rights, you take your land. Will this sound fair to you?


And what exactly are YOUR rights garbitsch as opposed to ours? Are your rights so super special that you should have the right to userp and steal our land?

Do you want a FAIR solution to the problem?
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:32 pm

WAs it your right to kick Turkish Cypriots out of Cyprus or take every right from them for the sake of Enosis?
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Postby Spartan King » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:36 pm

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Main_Source wrote:well Insan, you seem so nationalistic and clutch at straws in most of of your posts...that this is the only logical reason you oppose unity so much.



That's how much you are able to understand. It's you who adore the National Fighters for Enosis. We well know who is who. The unity you dream of is a GC state with a TC minority. Of course I oppose such kind of unity. GC nation with a TC minority. :lol: :lol:

Keep dreaming!


Hmmmm

Turkish State with a Kurdish minority OK by you?
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:38 pm

We had already discussed these things Spartan King. Do not put these stuffs into microwave oven and reserve them to us (what a kind of analogy is this :) ). The Cyprus case is totally different than the Kurds in Turkey, or Turks in Greece, or Corsicans in France.
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Postby Spartan King » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:44 pm

garbitsch wrote:We already discussed these Spartan King. Do not put these stuff into microwave oven and recook it. The Cyprus case is totally different than the Kurds in Turkey, or Turks in Greece, or Corsicans in France.


It is different, but there is a great deal of hypocrisy and duplicity in the attitude of Turkey towards the Turkish minority in Cyprus and the Kurdish minority in SE Turkey.

Or do you believe that the Turkish policy on Cyprus and the Kurdish question are morally consistent and justifiable?
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:49 pm

Ahh, as I said before, the things are quite distinct in Cyprus. First of all, Cyprus is not owned by Greeks with Turkish Cypriot minority. Secondly, the Kurds in Turkey are not totally different than Turks. Both speak the same language, and there are large number of Kurds in Turkish Parliament, there is no discrimination towards Kurds. There had been cruel attrocities towards Kurds by the Turkish government for the sake of the integration of Turkey. How about the Turks in Greece? They are not even recognised as "Turks" but Muslim Greeks. Man, we discussed these things before. It is not hypocracy. The T.Cs simply demand the rights that they had already had. The Kurds had never had a special status in Turkish Republic. Now they have language rights and such. I also agree that more rights should be given, but this has nothing to do with Cyprus.
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:51 pm

When you want to attach the issue of Kurds in Turkey with of Cyprus, please do so by including the ethnic minorities in Greece and in France, whose governments reject that there are ethnic minorities within their borders.
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Postby Spartan King » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:25 pm

garbitsch wrote:Ahh, as I said before, the things are quite distinct in Cyprus. First of all, Cyprus is not owned by Greeks with Turkish Cypriot minority. Secondly, the Kurds in Turkey are not totally different than Turks. Both speak the same language, and there are large number of Kurds in Turkish Parliament, there is no discrimination towards Kurds. There had been cruel attrocities towards Kurds by the Turkish government for the sake of the integration of Turkey. How about the Turks in Greece? They are not even recognised as "Turks" but Muslim Greeks. Man, we discussed these things before. It is not hypocracy. The T.Cs simply demand the rights that they had already had. The Kurds had never had a special status in Turkish Republic. Now they have language rights and such. I also agree that more rights should be given, but this has nothing to do with Cyprus.



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No offence but I will leave it at that for the good of the forum.
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:44 pm

Spartan King, you are free to express your opinions, but the issue of the relationship between Kurds in Turkey and Turks in Cyprus had already discussed long time ago. But if you want to dig your head under the soil, then do it as you wish :lol:
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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:51 pm

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