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[Agios Amvrosios]

Insan said:

If some day TCs go and sue RoC, they will sue it for exchange of properties and the losses it caused to TCs in the last 40 years.

Insan there is no legal remedy like the one you are seeking. Its madness.

"exchange of properties" = ethnic cleansing how can a Human Rights court make orders for ethnic cleansing?

[magikthrill]

Those who rejected the plan are not against exchange of properties. Overwhelming majority of TC refugees don't think any other alternatives than the exchange of their properties.

You tell me 95% are willing to exchange their properties to live in a safe bicommunal bizonal federation?

If 35% rejected a plan that created a bizonal bicommunla federation, then your logica is that the reaosn why they rejectd it is because it did not create a safe federation, ie thinking it would collapse any minute, ie the same reasoning why most GCs voted against the plan...

[garbitsch]

By 35%, do you mean 75%? I am a bit puzzled.

[Main_Source]

Jimmy, first of all overwhelming majority of TC community does not want to be a minority in a GC state. Moreover they don't believe that TC community is a minority in Cyprus because just a 100 years ago TCs were the governors of Cyprus and they governed Cyprus for 400 years. Now you guess how would TC community feel itself as a minority in a GC state. They would resist and fight not to live as a minority in a GC state. TCs in their history, have never been a minority, have never been governed by GCs

So this all just comes down to pride, because the elite TC community once used to collect heavy taxes off us...and now you dont want the tables to be reversed? Now tell me once again your not thinking in a nationalistic box?...and also what your saying is, because of this pride, you think the TC should start conflict again in Cyprus (and then I wonder who you would be blaming Insan?)

Also, Britianed governed India for a few hundred years...should they keep a piece of India too? Or maybe part of South Africa given back to the Boers...HEY!...How about parts of the middle east all given back to Greece because Alexander the Great had his Empire there.

Insan, Cyprus was an Ottoman colony, it does not mean the majority of of the population was TC. You have just shown your true colours in your last post.[/quote]

[Main_Source]

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[garbitsch]

Main_Source, I am not sure what Insan was trying to say, but I will try to explain it on behalf of him, I appologise if I make a mistake. What he meant that Cyprus was never owned by the Greeks, and thus the Turkish Cypriots were never ruled by them. In the Ottoman Empire, the Turks were the rulers. Under the British rule, both Greeks and Turks had their own administrations, say, one side was not more priviledged than the other one. Then in Republic of Cyprus, BOTH G.Cs and T.Cs were recognised as the two main communities of Cyprus (we can understand this from the Constitution which asked other minorities to choose which Community they wanted to belong to). The Turkish Cypriot vice president had the right to veto any legislation. Now the Greeks claim that they constitute 82% of the total Cypriot population, so they have the right to rule over Cyprus and the Turkish Cypriots, since they are LESS populated than Greeks, they should get only minority rights (they dont have right to play a role in the government). This is something that sounds "logical" to some G.Cs who only believe that being less populated automatically turns you into a simple minority. This is not the case in Switzerland, Belgium, Bosnia, Serbia&Montenegro and in other Federations which were founded on the basis of different ethnic communities NOT ON THE BASIS OF REGIONS as in USA, and Germany!

[garbitsch]

Gosh... double posting!

[brother]

Hey i watched that documentary on BBC1 last night about Genghis Khan and what a smart millatary leader he was but bloody brutal and yet he conquered the largest land mass in the planets history(around million square miles or so) and yet his empire collapsed and the mongolians are where now and have what to show.
Felt this was relevant to the conversation going on with a few hidden messages in it.

[garbitsch]

That has nothing to do with the presence of T.Cs in Cyprus bro'. When Mongolians occupied territories in other parts of the World, they only did it to destroy cities and get booties. They were not aiming at colonising other lands and deporting their population to live in these new lands. They were only aiming at looting!

[magikthrill]

By 35%, do you mean 75%? I am a bit puzzled.

100-65 YES = 35% no TCs (well TCs plus settlers which are now conveniently TCs)