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[Magnus]

I wouldn't worry about it. The Turkish idea of 'going nuclear' is sending someone out to buy a microwave.

[tessintrnc]

I wouldn't worry about it. The Turkish idea of 'going nuclear' is sending someone out to buy a microwave.

[denizaksulu]

I wouldn't worry about it. The Turkish idea of 'going nuclear' is sending someone out to buy a microwave.

Zart

[Kikapu]

Middle East in nuclear race to match Iran.

Borger
Wednesday May 21 2008.

.... Almost every country in the Middle East has announced nuclear energy plans in the space of less than a year, in response to Iran's dramatic progress towards atomic power, it was reported yesterday.

... Between February 2006 and January 2007, twelve Arab states and Turkey declared their interest in developing nuclear energy.

... "So far, none of the new nuclear aspirants in the region has been known to talk even privately about seeking nuclear weapons, at least for now," it said. "What they want is the human and technical infrastructure associated with nuclear-energy programmes in order to provide a counterbalance to Iran, both laying the ground for a possible future security hedge, and bestowing national prestige in the context of historic rivalries."

... Turkey, Morocco, and Egypt plan to have power plants within the next decade.

Really?

Reading the above, it reminded me of a conversation I had with a family member in London last December after our usual Cyprus Politics (we don't see things eye to eye) about Turkey's Nuclear plans and the crash of an airliner in Turkey. They were convinced, that the plane was brought down and that it was not just an accident, because some of the passengers were Nuclear Physicists. I brushed off their conspiracy theories and enjoyed a nice Turkish Coffee and some home made dessert. But upon reading the above, I did some research and found few interesting information, and yes, there were some passengers who were involved in Nuclear Physics. I don't know what this really means and who would be behind in wanting this plane down, but this wouldn't be the first time a plane has been brought down for sinister purposes around the world.

This is one report.

Turkish media released a list of passengers. All names were Turkish. The dead included a group of academics who planned to take part in a physics conference at an Isparta university. Among them was Engin Arik, a prominent female nuclear physics professor from Istanbul's Bosporus University.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314043,00.html

Some other reports, which they all said that the weather was not a factor and the plane had been given landing clearance before it crashed into the mountain. Clearly the plane was too low and /or was on a wrong approach path. Were the landing instruction correctly given to the pilots, or were they "manipulated" by someone.??

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,214 ... 67,00.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/ ... -Plane.php

[Oracle]

Middle East in nuclear race to match Iran.

Borger
Wednesday May 21 2008.

.... Almost every country in the Middle East has announced nuclear energy plans in the space of less than a year, in response to Iran's dramatic progress towards atomic power, it was reported yesterday.

... Between February 2006 and January 2007, twelve Arab states and Turkey declared their interest in developing nuclear energy.

... "So far, none of the new nuclear aspirants in the region has been known to talk even privately about seeking nuclear weapons, at least for now," it said. "What they want is the human and technical infrastructure associated with nuclear-energy programmes in order to provide a counterbalance to Iran, both laying the ground for a possible future security hedge, and bestowing national prestige in the context of historic rivalries."

... Turkey, Morocco, and Egypt plan to have power plants within the next decade.

Really?

Reading the above, it reminded me of a conversation I had with a family member in London last December after our usual Cyprus Politics (we don't see things eye to eye) about Turkey's Nuclear plans and the crash of an airliner in Turkey. They were convinced, that the plane was brought down and that it was not just an accident, because some of the passengers were Nuclear Physicists. I brushed off their conspiracy theories and enjoyed a nice Turkish Coffee and some home made dessert. But upon reading the above, I did some research and found few interesting information, and yes, there were some passengers who were involved in Nuclear Physics. I don't know what this really means and who would be behind in wanting this plane down, but this wouldn't be the first time a plane has been brought down for sinister purposes around the world.

This is one report.

Turkish media released a list of passengers. All names were Turkish. The dead included a group of academics who planned to take part in a physics conference at an Isparta university. Among them was Engin Arik, a prominent female nuclear physics professor from Istanbul's Bosporus University.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314043,00.html

Some other reports, which they all said that the weather was not a factor and the plane had been given landing clearance before it crashed into the mountain. Clearly the plane was too low and /or was on a wrong approach path. Were the landing instruction correctly given to the pilots, or were they "manipulated" by someone.??

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,214 ... 67,00.html

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/ ... -Plane.php

Kikapu that is really interesting, not that we should jump to any theories ...

But there were 6 Physicists aboard the plane, a couple of them who were in Engin Arik's research team. She had work in preparation on Radionuclide Detection software according to her webpage, and was a member of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Organisation.

She seemed to be greatly respected as a scientist and I found a lovely Obituary to her by a fellow Greek Physicist which is rather poignant ...

ATLAS e-News

Special Issue

Konstantin Zioutas, spokesperson of the CAST experiment, gave a speech at the Memorial Ceremony at Bogaziçi University, Turkey
3 December 2007

Dear relatives, colleagues and friends of Prof. Engin Arik and the PhD-Student Berkol Dogan.

No words can express my deep feelings and sorrow and grief about the tragic and painful loss of Engin and Berkol, which we loved all of us so much.

Engin was a renowned nuclear physicist with worldwide reputation. She pioneered the Turkish involvement in experiments like SMS, ATLAS and CAST at CERN. She was a very vital and clever person, full of energy, working tireless. She was very active and respected in Physics with broad knowledge and a lot of experimental expertise. She was fighting against the establishment – as I know from her – in order to promote particle physics in Turkey and get her beloved country more involved in European Science projects, with ILIAS-Axions network being one example.

Remarkably, while she spent her life for the benefit of Turkish science, she lost her life going to a Conference just to advance a Turkish accelerator project. As ancient Greeks used to say :
«Το πεπρωμ?νον φυγε?ν αδ?νατον». In turkish : Kadere karshi gelemezsin.

Engin was working with various Greeks the last two decades. Colleagues noticed a strong spirit of true friendship among Turkish and Greek groups in CAST. No doubt, Engin and her team contributed a lot for this to happen and all Greeks appreciated her engagement, all loved her. She developed a lasting friendship with my wife, Hero, and they were like sisters. When they separated in various occasions, tears rolled on their eyes. Unbelievable!

We will remember Engin as a wonderful lady, always positive, enthusiastic and go getter, with no project or task being too much for her. But, a professor’s reputation depends on her/his students. For Engin one REAL example was Berkol, our Berkol. What a wonderful, polite, highly appreciated and talented PhD-Student, absolutely sound and 100% reliable. The kid-brother impression used for Berkol tells you everything about him.

What a tragic loss, dear relatives, dear colleagues and friends of Engin and Berkol. Life was unfair to Engin and even more so to the young Berkol. Let me tell you this: there is nothing I could have done myself for both of them and I did not and vice versa!

My dear Engin, my dear Berkol, suddenly we live in two different worlds. We will have you for ever in our hearts and you know this. We are actually happy and proud to have had you as friends, as collaborators, as mother, as grandmother, as wife, as sister, as son and as brother.

WE LOVE YOU.

Konstantin Zioutas

[Nikitas]

"Mind you ............... IF they do, lets hope its no-where near an earthquake zone "

The whole of Turkey and the area around it are in a seismic zone.

[Oracle]

Looks like they have no Foreign interest in their ventures ... (EU membership dreams shattered ) .....

Turkey's nuclear tender falls flat

By Delphine Strauss in Ankara

Published: September 25 2008

Turkey suffered a setback in its efforts to reduce a costly dependence on energy imports yesterday, receiving just one bid in a tender to build the country's first nuclear power plant.

The 4,000 megawatt plant near Mersin on the Mediterranean coast is intended to be the first of three, aimed at averting power shortages and lessening reliance on natural gas imports from Russia and Iran.

"Nuclear is a very good option for Turkey, said Luis Echávarri, director-general of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development nuclear energy agency, adding that the first venture into the sector would help to build a domestic industry. However, the lacklustre response to a project that had initially attracted widespread interest from foreign and domestic groups is an embarrassment that will raise doubts over Turkey's ambition to rush the first plant into operation by 2015.

The only proposal submitted by yesterday's deadline came from a consortium led by Russia's Atomstroyexport and Inter Rao, together with Turkey's Park Teknik Group.

Yasar Cakmak, the chairman of the tender commission, said five other res-ponses were simply "thank you letters" declining to bid.

The government had stuck to the deadline despite requests from several companies for more time to prepare. Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the prime minister, reiterated on Monday there would be no extension despite the turbulence in global markets.

Turkey's ruling Justice and Development party is keen to show progress with its economic programme after a year of political distractions. It also needs to demonstrate that turmoil in global markets and political tensions at home will not damage Turkey's ability to attract foreign investors.

However, this haste appears to have backfired. The tender failed to attract interest from companies such as US-based Westinghouse or France's Areva, seen as the reference for the industry. Other groups General ElectricSuez-TractabelItochu CorporationSabanci Groupbought the tender documents but decided not to bid.

"In nuclear terms, 2015 is tomorrow," one expert on the sector said. "When suppliers ask you for more time, you listen."

An analyst in Istanbul said the tender might now be suspended or cancelled, since without a genuine competition, anti-nuclear campaigners would find it easier to take court action.

The authorities said the process would continue with the tender commission decid-ing whether to refer the bid to Turkey's Atomic Energy Board.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008

[humanist]

When Turkey goes nuclear I guess it will be the end of the world, The irony ....... US is creating a monster in Turkey an is chasing the goose in Iran ............ I hope am not around to see the day such fascist state gets its hands on nuclear weaponary.

[Viewpoint]

Your best friends made a bid the Russians.

[Get Real!]

When Turkey Goes Nuclear .....

She'll have to overcome her natural regression problem first...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fqzYxuh ... re=related