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[denizaksulu]

Wasnt it yesterday that I read Cyprus want to go nuclear?

Well, the thought has crossed their minds.

He went on to say that there was no question of creating a nuclear power plant in Cyprus that when France asked to meet to discuss such a possibility, the Energy Service turned it down.

Deniz ... you do have a predilection for half-baked articles that are just about arguments and possibilities with no substance

However the take home message seems to be that Cyprus is not considering Nuclear Energy when it has the capacity to explore greener possibilities ....... as should Turkey, if it didn't perhaps have alternative uses as an ulterior motive!

Having read the post, I remembered the headline, which I just glanced at.
I laughed it off as ridiculous. I went back to read the whole article, had another laugh. Thought of GR and his plans for the invasion of Anatolia, had another laugh.

Then I added that the thought had crossed their mind. Whats wrong with that?

In addition, why are your MPs discussing this possibility? Do you criticise them too?

Aaahhh ... yes GR!, always topical and at the foreskin of politics

I guess it was being discussed because France brought up Nuclear Energy Plants for Cyprus!

......... And more worryingly because Turkey has announced its plans.

So obviously we have to protest (since every action has an equal and opposite reaction ).

....how next Thursday parliament would approve a protest bill against the creation of a nuclear power plant in Turkey ......

Isnt it a pity that Nuclear Power for the benefit of Humankind cannot be separated from the 'Nuclear Power as a Weapon'.

But then you have Israel with its Nuckear Arsenal and does the USA bat an eyelid?

[tessintrnc]

Quote Oracle: So obviously we have to protest (since every action has an equal and opposite reaction ). end quote

Whats this? The yin and yang principles rearing their sperm-like heads again?

Deniz, I agree that it is a great pity that something so useful can be so terrifyingly destuctive. We (humans) just can't trust ourselves can we? Maybe Cyprus should consider wind power..............after all there's enough hot air on this forum!!!

[Oracle]

Isnt it a pity that Nuclear Power for the benefit of Humankind cannot be separated from the 'Nuclear Power as a Weapon'.

Apart from the Green Issue, when Nuclear Energy is admittedly not even needed by such countries anyway .... the temptation is always to go one step further ....

While all the plans are for peaceful civilian purposes, the IISS said that their underlying motive seemed to be to counter-balance Iran by "laying the ground for a possible future security hedge" which could include nuclear weapons.

“This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there,” said John Chipman, the chief executive of the London-based group.

“If Tehran’s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran’s neighbours.”

The IISS study assesses the nuclear activities of Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Algeria, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

But then you have Israel with its Nuckear Arsenal and does the USA bat an eyelid?

Apparently Israel are doing us a favour by pretending they do not have Nuclear Capability.

Israel is widely assumed to have a nuclear arsenal already, although it has never admitted to it.

Mr Chipman said that if Israel abandoned this long-held policy and confirmed that it had nuclear weapons, other countries in the region would feel under greater pressure to follow suit and acquire the weapons.

“A proliferation cascade would become more likely if Israel felt obliged to relinquish its long-standing doctrine of nuclear ’opacity’ ...as this would increase the pressure on Egypt and perhaps other Arab states to seek their own nuclear deterrents,” he said.

[denizaksulu]

Quote Oracle: So obviously we have to protest (since every action has an equal and opposite reaction ). end quote

Whats this? The yin and yang principles rearing their sperm-like heads again?

Deniz, I agree that it is a great pity that something so useful can be so terrifyingly destuctive. We (humans) just can't trust ourselves can we? Maybe Cyprus should consider wind power..............after all there's enough hot air on this forum!!!

Can you imagine the wind from 'both ends' and the turbulence it may cause will create havoc.

Then do you see these wind farms as a blot on the landscape? Can you keep them out of sight?

[tessintrnc]

Actually I don't mind the look of the wind machines, but they can also be put out at sea. I don't think they are very effective though - or at least not as effective as excpected (I read an article about Holland) and they are actually disapointing, pehaps the "turbulance" wouldn't be worth it!!!!!

[denizaksulu]

Isnt it a pity that Nuclear Power for the benefit of Humankind cannot be separated from the 'Nuclear Power as a Weapon'.

Apart from the Green Issue, when Nuclear Energy is admittedly not even needed by such countries anyway .... the temptation is always to go one step further ....

While all the plans are for peaceful civilian purposes, the IISS said that their underlying motive seemed to be to counter-balance Iran by "laying the ground for a possible future security hedge" which could include nuclear weapons.

“This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there,” said John Chipman, the chief executive of the London-based group.

“If Tehran’s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran’s neighbours.”

The IISS study assesses the nuclear activities of Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Algeria, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

But then you have Israel with its Nuckear Arsenal and does the USA bat an eyelid?

Apparently Israel are doing us a favour by pretending they do not have Nuclear Capability.

Israel is widely assumed to have a nuclear arsenal already, although it has never admitted to it.

Mr Chipman said that if Israel abandoned this long-held policy and confirmed that it had nuclear weapons, other countries in the region would feel under greater pressure to follow suit and acquire the weapons.

“A proliferation cascade would become more likely if Israel felt obliged to relinquish its long-standing doctrine of nuclear ’opacity’ ...as this would increase the pressure on Egypt and perhaps other Arab states to seek their own nuclear deterrents,” he said.

Oracle, do you believe that Israel has Nuclear Weapons as opposed to Nuclear Power. I ask about Weapons only.

[Oracle]

Isnt it a pity that Nuclear Power for the benefit of Humankind cannot be separated from the 'Nuclear Power as a Weapon'.

Apart from the Green Issue, when Nuclear Energy is admittedly not even needed by such countries anyway .... the temptation is always to go one step further ....

While all the plans are for peaceful civilian purposes, the IISS said that their underlying motive seemed to be to counter-balance Iran by "laying the ground for a possible future security hedge" which could include nuclear weapons.

“This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there,” said John Chipman, the chief executive of the London-based group.

“If Tehran’s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran’s neighbours.”

The IISS study assesses the nuclear activities of Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Algeria, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

But then you have Israel with its Nuckear Arsenal and does the USA bat an eyelid?

Apparently Israel are doing us a favour by pretending they do not have Nuclear Capability.

Israel is widely assumed to have a nuclear arsenal already, although it has never admitted to it.

Mr Chipman said that if Israel abandoned this long-held policy and confirmed that it had nuclear weapons, other countries in the region would feel under greater pressure to follow suit and acquire the weapons.

“A proliferation cascade would become more likely if Israel felt obliged to relinquish its long-standing doctrine of nuclear ’opacity’ ...as this would increase the pressure on Egypt and perhaps other Arab states to seek their own nuclear deterrents,” he said.

Oracle, do you believe that Israel has Nuclear Weapons as opposed to Nuclear Power. I ask about Weapons only.

Well you sounded pretty sure they had Nuclear Arsenal, and The Times reports they are widely assumed to ..... and I go by no smoke without fire, or imagination being more important than knowledge and knowing how the US operates I would have thought they were well stockpiled enough for us to start hoarding the proverbial Einsteinian sticks with which to fight WWIV, should they unleash these for a WWIII.

[tessintrnc]

When I first read that prediction WWIV will be fought with sticks it made me think for probably the first time about how fragile we, and Earth really is. Its scary.

[Paphitis]

Isnt it a pity that Nuclear Power for the benefit of Humankind cannot be separated from the 'Nuclear Power as a Weapon'.

Apart from the Green Issue, when Nuclear Energy is admittedly not even needed by such countries anyway .... the temptation is always to go one step further ....

While all the plans are for peaceful civilian purposes, the IISS said that their underlying motive seemed to be to counter-balance Iran by "laying the ground for a possible future security hedge" which could include nuclear weapons.

“This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there,” said John Chipman, the chief executive of the London-based group.

“If Tehran’s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran’s neighbours.”

The IISS study assesses the nuclear activities of Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Algeria, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

But then you have Israel with its Nuckear Arsenal and does the USA bat an eyelid?

Apparently Israel are doing us a favour by pretending they do not have Nuclear Capability.

Israel is widely assumed to have a nuclear arsenal already, although it has never admitted to it.

Mr Chipman said that if Israel abandoned this long-held policy and confirmed that it had nuclear weapons, other countries in the region would feel under greater pressure to follow suit and acquire the weapons.

“A proliferation cascade would become more likely if Israel felt obliged to relinquish its long-standing doctrine of nuclear ’opacity’ ...as this would increase the pressure on Egypt and perhaps other Arab states to seek their own nuclear deterrents,” he said.

Oracle, do you believe that Israel has Nuclear Weapons as opposed to Nuclear Power. I ask about Weapons only.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

http://www.desert-voice.net/israel_weapons.htm

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBurea ... 0824d.html

I would say that Isreal, the 53rd state of the US, has enough nuclear weapons to pulverize the world many times over. I include the US arsenal in this, as the US is Isreal's pawn and not the other way around.

[denizaksulu]

Isnt it a pity that Nuclear Power for the benefit of Humankind cannot be separated from the 'Nuclear Power as a Weapon'.

Apart from the Green Issue, when Nuclear Energy is admittedly not even needed by such countries anyway .... the temptation is always to go one step further ....

While all the plans are for peaceful civilian purposes, the IISS said that their underlying motive seemed to be to counter-balance Iran by "laying the ground for a possible future security hedge" which could include nuclear weapons.

“This upsurge of interest is remarkable, given both the abundance of traditional energy sources in the region and the low standing to date of nuclear energy there,” said John Chipman, the chief executive of the London-based group.

“If Tehran’s nuclear programme is unchecked, there is reason for concern that it could in time prompt a regional cascade of proliferation among Iran’s neighbours.”

The IISS study assesses the nuclear activities of Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Algeria, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

But then you have Israel with its Nuckear Arsenal and does the USA bat an eyelid?

Apparently Israel are doing us a favour by pretending they do not have Nuclear Capability.

Israel is widely assumed to have a nuclear arsenal already, although it has never admitted to it.

Mr Chipman said that if Israel abandoned this long-held policy and confirmed that it had nuclear weapons, other countries in the region would feel under greater pressure to follow suit and acquire the weapons.

“A proliferation cascade would become more likely if Israel felt obliged to relinquish its long-standing doctrine of nuclear ’opacity’ ...as this would increase the pressure on Egypt and perhaps other Arab states to seek their own nuclear deterrents,” he said.

Oracle, do you believe that Israel has Nuclear Weapons as opposed to Nuclear Power. I ask about Weapons only.

Well you sounded pretty sure they had Nuclear Arsenal, and The Times reports they are widely assumed to ..... and I go by no smoke without fire, or imagination being more important than knowledge and knowing how the US operates I would have thought they were well stockpiled enough for us to start hoarding the proverbial Einsteinian sticks with which to fight WWIV, should they unleash these for a WWIII.

Following the Israeli scientist Vanunu's case, I can not assume any other scenario.