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[Kifeas]

Er no Piratis, I don't. God help Cyprus with insular and blinkered people like you. There will never be a settlement at this rate with people like you. Carry on stereotyping and burying your head(s) in the sand and there will only be one solution: division and the recognition of the TRNC. Get a move on, change your brains or you will have no one to negotiate with ! You are so blind that you cannot see the endgame.

Muzzy, you was the 18% of Cypriots, both in 1960 and in 1974! You further used to own 17% of the privatelly owned property around Cyprus, both in 1960 and in 1974! These are the undiniable facts and realities in Cyprus, and can be easily prooved!

Are you willing to return the 18% of the 36% of territory that Turkey now occupies illegally from the RoC, and contain yourselves in the remaining 18% that matches with your population and property ownership size? If yes, and take a good look at the map first -before you answer, then you perhaps have some good chances to obtain the signature of the GCs in order to attain recognition! If not, then forget it and concentrate in convincing each other that you need to put water in the wine of your illegitimate demands towards as solution and re-unification!

[Piratis]

Er no Piratis, I don't. God help Cyprus with insular and blinkered people like you. There will never be a settlement at this rate with people like you. Carry on stereotyping and burying your head(s) in the sand and there will only be one solution: division and the recognition of the TRNC. Get a move on, change your brains or you will have no one to negotiate with ! You are so blind that you cannot see the endgame.

You run out of arguments now? You came here trying to blame the Greek Cypriots because they dared to ask for their freedom and self-determination from their foreign Turkish and British oppressors, but when the true facts are said you resort to personal attacks?

I present you the "crime" of Cypriots:

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

How dare those "criminal" Cypriots to ever think that they can be liberated from the Turkish rule? They deserve to be killed and have their lands stolen for this crime! And if the Turks have some losses in the conflicts which they start in order to deny to Cypriots their freedom, then of course Cypriots are to blame!

[Muzzy70]

Kifeas, you don't understand do you ? I am more than happy for a territorial adjustment as this is inevitable, provided that everything else can be agreed on first ! Does Kosovo need your signature for recognition ? No it doesn't and neither will we. Wake up !

[boomerang]

Kifeas, you don't understand do you ? I am more than happy for a territorial adjustment as this is inevitable, provided that everything else can be agreed on first ! Does Kosovo need your signature for recognition ? No it doesn't and neither will we. Wake up !

That sort of defeats your argument as the majority of kosovo
1...didn't commit ethnic cleansing
2...the majority of the citizens wanted a break up

something Piradis is telling you but you ain't listening... the majorities rule...This is how the rule of law works...

S

[Oracle]

We will break the Turks and have our land back! ... we can out-wait anyone ... but I know we do not have long to wait now as the Turks are sensing their end is nigh, and sending out their scouts to put pressure on us to accept something, anything which will save their skins....

The more like Muzzy that turn up ... the nearer is their expulsion ....

Prepare for panicking Turks leaving the sinking "trnc"-ship like rats .....

[wallace]

Alexiss I think the political circles in Turkey, and the TRNC for that matter, know that Turkish membership of the EU is highly unlikely, with or without a solution to the Cyprus question. The problem of inter-communal conflict was most certainly solved in 1974 as was the issue of enosis. This is not an issue about a taste of our own medicine, but as a community it is inevitable that we won't wait forever.

You solve inter-communal conflicts which was started from your side with cleansing 200.000 people from their homes and lands? You call that solving? The world calls it war crimes!. We are the ones waiting and we have patience you plonker. You will move from our lands 1 day! Now FO back to turkey=fascist state

With all due respect, the conflict did not begin in 1974.

Did you see me mention dates??? But you are right......you started it in 58 together with the brits. Get your facts right 74LB! Your so called peace operation in 74 (when there was no conflict with the TC's) cleansed 200K people from their homes and turkey=fascist state invaded 38% of our island. Also the TC's island. You call that a peace operation?

[Kifeas]

Kifeas, you don't understand do you ? I am more than happy for a territorial adjustment as this is inevitable, provided that everything else can be agreed on first ! Does Kosovo need your signature for recognition ? No it doesn't and neither will we. Wake up !

He he he! Yes, Kosovo hasn't been recognized by the EU, simply because it needed our signature! It hasn't been recognized by the UN either, simply because it needs the signatures of all 5 permanent members of the UN Security council! In your case, neither the UN SC, not the EU or any of its member states will ever recognize your unilateral actions, beside that such an act on your part will immediately bring the complete termination of Turkey's EU accession process! If you are not aware about it yet, the whole of Cyprus is recognized and accepted as member of the EU, under the legally binding sovereign umbrella of the RoC, and this with the signature of every single EU member state (treaty of accession!) That means the Cyprus issue is now also an internal EU issue, therefore no outside third country will dare offer you recognition for an internal EU affair, in a way contrary to the policy of the EU itself! Not even the US itself has any such ambition to have a conflict with the EU, on such an EU internal political and legal affair! You are simply dreaming in full day light!

[Muzzy70]

Kifeas, acceptance by the EU and UN are an irrelevance to us because states will recognise the TRNC. You are s*it scared of this and I bet that in such an eventuality you will come running. Some member states of the EU and UN have recognised Kosovo and this will happen with the TRNC. Just wake up people !!!!!

[iceman]

Muzzy, you was the 18% of Cypriots, both in 1960 and in 1974! You further used to own 17% of the privatelly owned property around Cyprus, both in 1960 and in 1974! These are the undiniable facts and realities in Cyprus, and can be easily prooved!

Are you willing to return the 18% of the 36% of territory that Turkey now occupies illegally from the RoC, and contain yourselves in the remaining 18% that matches with your population and property ownership size? If yes, and take a good look at the map first -before you answer, then you perhaps have some good chances to obtain the signature of the GCs in order to attain recognition! If not, then forget it and concentrate in convincing each other that you need to put water in the wine of your illegitimate demands towards as solution and re-unification!

Kifeas
Excuse my ignorance but i fail to understand the mathematical logic in your above post...
If you say its undeniable fact that TC's privately owned 17% land,why don't you say how much the GC's owned privately and how much was owned by the state?Why is it that always want to give the TC's the privately owned percentage which is theirs anyway and take the rest?
Don't the TC's have any right for a share of the state land if we are going to go our own way?
Wasn't the TC community one of the two founding communities of ROC?

[halil]

Muzzy, you was the 18% of Cypriots, both in 1960 and in 1974! You further used to own 17% of the privatelly owned property around Cyprus, both in 1960 and in 1974! These are the undiniable facts and realities in Cyprus, and can be easily prooved!

Are you willing to return the 18% of the 36% of territory that Turkey now occupies illegally from the RoC, and contain yourselves in the remaining 18% that matches with your population and property ownership size? If yes, and take a good look at the map first -before you answer, then you perhaps have some good chances to obtain the signature of the GCs in order to attain recognition! If not, then forget it and concentrate in convincing each other that you need to put water in the wine of your illegitimate demands towards as solution and re-unification!

Kifeas
Excuse my ignorance but i fail to understand the mathematical logic in your above post...
If you say its undeniable fact that TC's privately owned 17% land,why don't you say how much the GC's owned privately and how much was owned by the state?Why is it that always want to give the TC's the privately owned percentage which is theirs anyway and take the rest?
Don't the TC's have any right for a share of the state land if we are going to go our own way?
Wasn't the TC community one of the two founding communities of ROC?

Iceman , don't you know that Gramphones turns only from one way .No way they can reverse .otherwise they are will be no sound will play

it is against the law