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[Get Real!]

I would say the same thing to the TCs,but they have little say over their own fates,I am afraid...

The great Mahatma Gandhi fought the mighty British Empire with non-violent resistance so what’s stopping the Turkish Cypriots from doing the same to Turkey? Maybe they’re just too busy selling Christian artifacts and prostituting GC properties…

Or maybe they are waiting for some unmistakable sign that their compatriots do not still want to turn Cyprus into a Greek Island!!!!

Get rid of the Greek flags,the Greek national anthem,and curb the political influence of the Greek Orthodox Church,and they might just oblige you GR...

You are indeed a master at finding excuses to rid the TC community of any responsibilities and tie their every shortcoming with a corresponding GC shortcoming. You’re doing a great job at preserving the status quo in your own “innocent” little way all wrapped up in a Mahatma Ghandi packaging…

You do not fool unkie GR and never have.

Get off your high horse,GR,and see the realities of our little problem...
The TCs are the greatest victims in all this...I am talking about the average TC....not Denktash and his cronies...They have nowhere to go...
They are stuck between the ROC and Turkey...If you want them to turn towards you,do something to encourage them...

Who do you think you’re talking to? You think I buy this shit like some of my other foolish compatriots? Do you honestly think that the enormous problems, such as the importation of 150,000 Anatolian mullahs, the desecration of our hundreds of Churches and stolen artifacts, the prostitution of our land and homes, and myriads of other problems that Turkey and your community have created on this island can really be solved with words?

Showing them the stick and threatening them with annihilation will not do it...

The Greek Cypriot people have been facing Turkish threats, persecutions, invasions, and occupations, for the last 400 odd years while your lazy oafs have been sitting on their back sides playing the Aga and enjoying the loots ever since we can remember, and you have the audacity today to complain? You haven't even started to see what it feels like to be threatened...

You have no moral right to demand passive resistance from the TCs until you start your own passive resistance in the South...Try forming a lobby group to demand that all symbols of Hellenism are dismantled in the RoC...Then you can demand your much weaker compatriots to do the same in the North...Not before...

The difference between a Mahatma Gandhi and a phony is that the latter promotes peace only AFTER he has the loot secured in his hands…

[Nikitas]

Bir makes a valid point. We are either independent or we are not, and if we are independent then we have our own national symbols, anthem and so on.

Aditionally we GCs must understand the perceived fear that we inspire in TCs. It is irrelevant whether that fear is justified or not, it is there, the fear itself is a fact and we must deal with it. So far the only politician who has addressed this perception and the need to deal with it is Christofias in an interview on CYBC. The rest of the politicians behave as if this is irrelevant. Well it is very relevant to people who have been brought up with stories of bloodthirsty GCs ready to slaughter them. What is needed is proof for the TCs that this is not the case. HOw we provide that proof is a challenge to our collective inventiveness and ingenuity.

[Oracle]

The difference between a Mahatma Gandhi and a phony is that the latter promotes peace only AFTER he has the loot secured in his hands…

Good point Get Real!

[halil]

GR,
Why the prayers at Limassol mosque have been attacked last night ?
how do you explain this one GR?

[Get Real!]

GR,
Why the prayers at Limassol mosque have been attacked last night ?
how do you explain this one GR?

Start a thread with your story and credible links and we'll talk about it in there. Thanks.

[BirKibrisli]

My firm belief is that Wars do not decide anything...Peace, trust,understanding ,and goodwill is the way to go...

Your firm belief can only be stemming from wishful thinking because so far violence has decided pretty much everything in the history of mankind. Even your very own community the Turkish Cypriots, are the product of a violence that began in 1570 against Cyprus.

You are right,GR...Violence has decided everything so far....But look where it got us???? Where it got the whole humanity....If you don't stop going back in history,I might have to remind you of your own chequered background...Alexander the Great was not exactly a peace emissary from Heaven...

Only the truly uneducated (or Turkish propagandists) would foolishly compare the destruction caused by the Ottoman Empire to that of Alexander the Great's Empire!

Carry on Bir ... bit by bit you are exposing yourself as the greatest tool the Turks have constructed to date ...

Keep trying to shame us into forsaking our Hellenic past leaving only Turkish replacements ....

Like GR! ... I too am not fooled by your displays. (But I think you knew that )

I am just totally pissed off with your and your alter ego's prejudiced and bigoted attacks on all things Turkish and Turkish Cypriot...It is my frustration coming out at last...It is the fault of people like you and your opposites on the TC side who had got us where we are today and who is keeping us in that hellhole...You fail to realise that this attitude of yours is driving the TCs further and further into Turkeys arms,to a point where they are willing to be totally assimilated with the Turks instead of having to deal with people like you in a united Cyprus...You and your alter ego<GR< are killing off my dream of a United Cyprus,united people,one nation of Cypriots under true democracy, compassionate humanity and natural justice...Even I wouldn't want to have you as my neighbour let alone the rest of the TCs...Grow up for God's sake...You are betraying our country and our people...In more ways than I can tell you...

[halil]

GR,
Why the prayers at Limassol mosque have been attacked last night ?
how do you explain this one GR?

Start a thread with your story and credible links and we'll talk about it in there. Thanks.

Turn off the knob ............. burner is burned GR.

The stupid ideas you putting in this forum might help them to attack the innocent people . keep on .... u doing great job .... you are very credible

[Nikitas]

"Only the truly uneducated (or Turkish propagandists) would foolishly compare the destruction caused by the Ottoman Empire to that of Alexander the Great's Empire!"

Have you read Greek accounts of Alexander's campaigns? How he avenged the invasion of the Persians that had happened 150 years previoius to his expedition into Asia? There are some parts that astounded me, like the total annihiliation of the community of Greeks who had sided with the Persians and moved to central Asia. He killed every single one of their descendants! That is a pure application of the "dominant gene theory" if ever there was one. And above all do not forget that he, like our other illustrious ancestors, owned slaves.

It is fashionable in modern Greek intellectual circles to praise Alexander, and it is equally fashionabel to run down the Spartans. But the Spartans refused to participate in Alexander's eastward march because their laws prohibited a Spartan army from being commanded by non Spartans. That attitude should be more useful to us today than Alexander's imperial dreams.

[Get Real!]

GR,
Why the prayers at Limassol mosque have been attacked last night ?
how do you explain this one GR?

Start a thread with your story and credible links and we'll talk about it in there. Thanks.

Turn off the knob ............. burner is burned GR.

The stupid ideas you putting in this forum might help them to attack the innocent people . keep on .... u doing great job .... you are very credible

I just love your killer "arguments"...

[Oracle]

My firm belief is that Wars do not decide anything...Peace, trust,understanding ,and goodwill is the way to go...

Your firm belief can only be stemming from wishful thinking because so far violence has decided pretty much everything in the history of mankind. Even your very own community the Turkish Cypriots, are the product of a violence that began in 1570 against Cyprus.

You are right,GR...Violence has decided everything so far....But look where it got us???? Where it got the whole humanity....If you don't stop going back in history,I might have to remind you of your own chequered background...Alexander the Great was not exactly a peace emissary from Heaven...

Only the truly uneducated (or Turkish propagandists) would foolishly compare the destruction caused by the Ottoman Empire to that of Alexander the Great's Empire!

Carry on Bir ... bit by bit you are exposing yourself as the greatest tool the Turks have constructed to date ...

Keep trying to shame us into forsaking our Hellenic past leaving only Turkish replacements ....

Like GR! ... I too am not fooled by your displays. (But I think you knew that )

I am just totally pissed off with your and your alter ego's prejudiced and bigoted attacks on all things Turkish and Turkish Cypriot...It is my frustration coming out at last...It is the fault of people like you and your opposites on the TC side who had got us where we are today and who is keeping us in that hellhole...You fail to realise that this attitude of yours is driving the TCs further and further into Turkeys arms,to a point where they are willing to be totally assimilated with the Turks instead of having to deal with people like you in a united Cyprus...You and your alter ego<GR< are killing off my dream of a United Cyprus,united people,one nation of Cypriots under true democracy, compassionate humanity and natural justice...Even I wouldn't want to have you as my neighbour let alone the rest of the TCs...Grow up for God's sake...You are betraying our country and our people...In more ways than I can tell you...

You try to shame the GCs into doing something you do not ask of the TCs.

You try to sound liberal, yet fail, as you do not actively attribute responsibility to the Turk-TCs.

Pretence at being exasperated with us is yet another of your tools (witnessed many times) as well as the .... "I told you so! It's all your fault !"

Perhaps we are sick of Turkish intransigence. Perhaps we are sick of having uninvited guests telling us what to do and how to do it. Especially when those guests hold the world record on how not to do things!

Your only goal seems to be to force the GCs to do your bidding!

Take responsibility!