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[bilako22]

The Plonker wrote :
""""""Typical shit from you , LAND GRABBING THIEF !!!!!!
The mind boggles !!!

From one plonker to another , tell me that what happened in Australia is not land grabbing on a massive scale , and on a scale that is much greater than Cyprus.

Hey stupid you are right...Now I am packing my bags and expect the same from you...I am coming to Cyprus and you go back to wherever you came from...deal?

Sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression you are stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...you would do well to remember this...

From one stupid guy to another , you are full of bullshit and have no intention of leaving kangaroo land . Lier. You want your lands in Cyprus returned whilst depriving the real owners of Australia theirs.

[bilako22]

Funny enough copperline logs in, makes a post and then disappears...

Either looking up your history or drying yourself...

And here is me looking for an interesting debate on ethnic cleansing and colonization on an "intellectual level" comparing what happened 200 and 500 odd years ago with the last 34 years...go figure copperline

Perhaps he is fed up with you shit plonker . Get out of Australia thief.

[miltiades]

Boomerang's argument is that British/German etc property buyers are illegally occupying Greek Cypriot land which was seized illegally by the Turkish army and therefore beneficiaries of a crime they should be brought to justice. Fair enough. Good argument, in my view.


Strangely enough though when Boomerang is confronted with the argument that Greek Cypriots/Greeks/whoever else etc buy property in Australia which was seized illegally by the occupying British who expelled aboriginals, and of which he is now a beneficiary he doesn't see the comparison. How strange.

Why is sauce for the goose not sauce for the gander ?

There is NO comparison , dont be so bloody stupid .
Britain did not invade Australia , grabbed 38% of Australian land , made thousands refugees and above all Einstein , Australia is recognised the world over . Comparing Australia to the occupied part of Cyprus is not only totally absurd , stupid , is also malignant. Wake up to realities and stop being so narrow minded !

[CopperLine]

Typically Boomerang just turns to a tirade of abuse. Failure to agree with Boomerang, or to consider the same material in the same way as Boomerang results in a stream of invective.

Let's get back to the substance : the history of expropriations, land grabs and dispossessions is as bloody as it is widespread. Some seize land and throw residents off directly, others do it by proxy. Some enjoy the expropriations immediately, others in a generation or two. Does the passage of time between dispossession of one and enjoyment by another make any difference to the violence of the act ?

Yes the British dispossessed the aboriginals, but it is the current generations of immigrants - Greek Cypriots like Boomerang included - who enjoy the benefits. The Turkish army dispossessed Greek Cypriots and it is British and German etc homebuyers who enjoy the benefits. Does the fact that the Australian aboriginals were dispossessed over a couple centuries (and continue to be dispossessed today) make a difference to their loss ? If you Boomerang want to put a time-break on land dispossessions then tell us what it should be and why.

There is nothing particularly different and certainly not unique what has happened in Cyprus and it may be instructive to us what has happened in other parts of the world and how they have been resolved.

So long as people cling to the absurd notion that the Cyprus experience is unique and unparalleled then we're screwed and beyond help.

[boomerang]

The Plonker wrote :
""""""Typical shit from you , LAND GRABBING THIEF !!!!!!
The mind boggles !!!

From one plonker to another , tell me that what happened in Australia is not land grabbing on a massive scale , and on a scale that is much greater than Cyprus.

Hey stupid you are right...Now I am packing my bags and expect the same from you...I am coming to Cyprus and you go back to wherever you came from...deal?

Sometimes its better to keep your mouth shut and give the impression you are stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...you would do well to remember this...

From one stupid guy to another , you are full of bullshit and have no intention of leaving kangaroo land . Lier. You want your lands in Cyprus returned whilst depriving the real owners of Australia theirs.

See I don't call you stupid for nothing...you have earned the title fair and square...

Keep'em coming stupid...

[miltiades]

Typically Boomerang just turns to a tirade of abuse. Failure to agree with Boomerang, or to consider the same material in the same way as Boomerang results in a stream of invective.

Let's get back to the substance : the history of expropriations, land grabs and dispossessions is as bloody as it is widespread. Some seize land and throw residents off directly, others do it by proxy. Some enjoy the expropriations immediately, others in a generation or two. Does the passage of time between dispossession of one and enjoyment by another make any difference to the violence of the act ?

Yes the British dispossessed the aboriginals, but it is the current generations of immigrants - Greek Cypriots like Boomerang included - who enjoy the benefits. The Turkish army dispossessed Greek Cypriots and it is British and German etc homebuyers who enjoy the benefits. Does the fact that the Australian aboriginals were dispossessed over a couple centuries (and continue to be dispossessed today) make a difference to their loss ? If you Boomerang want to put a time-break on land dispossessions then tell us what it should be and why.

There is nothing particularly different and certainly not unique what has happened in Cyprus and it may be instructive to us what has happened in other parts of the world and how they have been resolved.

So long as people cling to the absurd notion that the Cyprus experience is unique and unparalleled then we're screwed and beyond help.

For a man who appears , on the surface , to have a respectable level of education , you appear to fall in the category of educated fools.
To compare Australian developments over hundreds of years with the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey is paramount to comparing the holocaust with Tom and Jerry having a melee !!!
If by saying that similar events to those that took place in Cyprus in 1974 are historically common occurrences then the same can be applied to child molesting and murder that have also been a regularly recurring events through out history , it doesn't excuse such despicable crimes.

[Oracle]

CopperLine conveniently forgets the reasons for the establishment of International Law in 1946 with the UN ... But that is easy for him since his whole nation the Turks do too! ...

[CopperLine]

Militiades
For goodness sake !!! Who said anything about excusing them ? Social developments and events - everything from land grabs to murders to child molesting to genocides - don't occur randomly and arbitrarily. There are patterns, there are often common causes, there are often cycles, there are often ways of learning how to deal with problems by looking at what happened elsewhere.

When one compares one thing with another one is NOT saying they are the same. I didn't argue that Australia and Cyprus were the same. I suggested that there are some comparable processes and consequences. Let's look and learn.

[CopperLine]

International law was not established in 1946; it goes back centuries in different forms. There's nothing particularly significant in international law of 1946.

[Oracle]

International law was not established in 1946; it goes back centuries in different forms. There's nothing particularly significant in international law of 1946.

... No one said otherwise ... 1946 was in reference to the UN! That little set-up the Turks seem oblivious to, and which you are once again mirroring.