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Postby Oracle » Mon May 19, 2008 7:35 pm

Well a spell in Guantanamo should sort him out .... :wink:
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Postby Eliko » Mon May 19, 2008 7:51 pm

On a more serious note, the Maj. Gen. could now be seen as a 'Terrorist', my goodness, what a predicament.

The poor chap, the things one has to do for one's country. :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 19, 2008 8:17 pm

Eliko wrote:miltiades, pipe down for God's sake, I have clearly stated that that is my opinion, the fact that you may be unable to agree does not give you the right to accuse me of harbouring hatreds.

NOR does the mention of 'savages' lend any weight to your well known myopic views on most political events.

In my humble opinion ( open for contradiction obviously) :lol: :lol: :wink:

Read the following and tell me who has myopic views "

""""May 15, 2008

Suicide bomber kills 22 mourners at Iraq funeralDeborah Haynes in Baghdad
A suicide bomber has killed 22 mourners at a funeral west of Baghdad attended by Sunni Arab tribesmen opposed to al-Qaeda.

Forty people were left injured by the bombing yesterday in the village of Abu Munasir in Anbar province, once the centre of the Sunni Arab insurgency before US forces regained control in late 2006 and early 2007 with the help of local Sunni Arab tribesmen who decided to turn against al-Qaeda.

In another attack bearing the hallmarks of the Sunni Arab militants, a teenage girl bomber killed an Iraqi soldier and wounded up to seven others in an explosion against an Iraqi army position south of the capital.

It was unclear whether the girl detonated the explosives attached to her body herself or they were set off remotely.""

But as far as Eliko the brains is concerned """"I personally believe THIS mistake to be a very well thought out devious ploy by the U.S. since either way, they have an excuse to perpetrate more evils upon the innocents of that nation.""""
What a bloody waste of an education !! There again you supported Rambos war cries !!!
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Postby Eliko » Mon May 19, 2008 8:26 pm

miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:miltiades, pipe down for God's sake, I have clearly stated that that is my opinion, the fact that you may be unable to agree does not give you the right to accuse me of harbouring hatreds.

NOR does the mention of 'savages' lend any weight to your well known myopic views on most political events.

In my humble opinion ( open for contradiction obviously) :lol: :lol: :wink:

Read the following and tell me who has myopic views "

""""May 15, 2008

Suicide bomber kills 22 mourners at Iraq funeralDeborah Haynes in Baghdad
A suicide bomber has killed 22 mourners at a funeral west of Baghdad attended by Sunni Arab tribesmen opposed to al-Qaeda.

Forty people were left injured by the bombing yesterday in the village of Abu Munasir in Anbar province, once the centre of the Sunni Arab insurgency before US forces regained control in late 2006 and early 2007 with the help of local Sunni Arab tribesmen who decided to turn against al-Qaeda.

In another attack bearing the hallmarks of the Sunni Arab militants, a teenage girl bomber killed an Iraqi soldier and wounded up to seven others in an explosion against an Iraqi army position south of the capital.

It was unclear whether the girl detonated the explosives attached to her body herself or they were set off remotely.""

But as far as Eliko the brains is concerned """"I personally believe THIS mistake to be a very well thought out devious ploy by the U.S. since either way, they have an excuse to perpetrate more evils upon the innocents of that nation.""""
What a bloody waste of an education !! There again you supported Rambos war cries !!!


miltiades, perhaps you should direct your opinions to the new 'Commander' of operations Major General Jeffery bin Hammond, who has just embraced the faith himself.

No doubt you would be prepared to also adopt the beard and accoutrements required to become one of the faithful yourself, should circumstances require their adoption.

Who knows, you may even look quite dapper in the robes of the faithful. :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 19, 2008 9:25 pm

No doubt , Eliko finds the misfortunes of others , as per his signature , an uplifting emotion. Iraqis are massacred daily by barbarian savages and he doesn't even utter a word .
Eliko may I say that both you and more so GR have failed miserably to come across as two intelligent and educated Cypriots instead you are both consumed with hatred for the West , especcialy America , and then you have the audacity to suggest that our men women and children should unite and fight Turkey single handedly , bearing in mind you blithering morons that America is more than likely to support Turkey in a war. The mind boggles at to how naive and idiotic your views are !!
As if that wasnt enough you are now accusing the Americans of devising a scheme to bring more death and destruction to the Iraqi people. Good God man , it is people with your views that have inflicted the pain and suffering to our Cypriot people and invited Turkey to take 1/3 of our island.
You should thank America for refusing , yes refusing to recognise the "TRNC" and for keeping an eye on us just in case some f..ng idiots decide to sink our island .
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Postby Nikitas » Tue May 20, 2008 4:03 am

How dare you accuse the Americans of diplomacy!
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Postby Eliko » Tue May 20, 2008 5:40 am

miltiades wrote:No doubt , Eliko finds the misfortunes of others , as per his signature , an uplifting emotion. Iraqis are massacred daily by barbarian savages and he doesn't even utter a word .
Eliko may I say that both you and more so GR have failed miserably to come across as two intelligent and educated Cypriots instead you are both consumed with hatred for the West , especcialy America , and then you have the audacity to suggest that our men women and children should unite and fight Turkey single handedly , bearing in mind you blithering morons that America is more than likely to support Turkey in a war. The mind boggles at to how naive and idiotic your views are !!
As if that wasnt enough you are now accusing the Americans of devising a scheme to bring more death and destruction to the Iraqi people. Good God man , it is people with your views that have inflicted the pain and suffering to our Cypriot people and invited Turkey to take 1/3 of our island.
You should thank America for refusing , yes refusing to recognise the "TRNC" and for keeping an eye on us just in case some f..ng idiots decide to sink our island .


miltiades, I can AGREE with you on your comment that the Americans are keeping an eye on us right enough, they have had their eye on us ever since they first 'ENGINEERED' the invasion by Turkey in the first instance, or is your memory subject to similar deficiencies to those of your eyesight.

I do believe that 'Blind Eyes' were turned until precisely the moment those of the West had achieved their objectives in Cyprus, what we see now are mere political and military charades, designed to convince us that the West is somehow concerned about us.

Wake up miltiades !, your perceptions and deductive powers have sadly fallen far behind that which one would expect from a man of your advancing years.

Your blind acceptance of the atrocities instigated and then perpetrated by those you so fervently support and admire, IS, quite frankly sickening.

As to the 'Daily Slaughters',which you are so often apt to refer to, THEY, are all attributable to the Americans for reasons obvious to us all, (except for the likes of you of course).

In my humble opinion. :wink:
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Postby Eliko » Tue May 20, 2008 9:15 am

miltiades, as a follow up to the above, there is another slant which you may wish to consider relative to the situation in Cyprus.

When a miltary invasion of a country takes place, it is very easy for a superior force to gain the advantage and impose it's will upon the vanquished.

What is difficult (impossible in many cases) is to invade the 'hearts and minds ' of the people, thus, you will often see references made to such desires in newspaper reports.

The real objectives of such approaches by those who have intruded, is to obliterate the memories of those under the occupation of the foreign force.

Unfortunately (for the aggressor) some of the oppressed are not so easily subjugated as others, they fight back, they become 'Freedom Fighters' and are (of course) regarded as 'Terrorists' by those who are opposed.

These 'Freedom Fighters' will resort to whatever means is at their disposal to confound their enemy, they cannot openly engage in a face to face confrontation as they are obviously far less well equipped to do so.

Whatever horrible actions they are forced to undertake in order to draw attention to their plight, they pale into insignificance when compared to the fact that the 'Aggressor' has the means at it's disposal to commit far greater horrors and attribute them to the 'Freedom Fighters'.

Historical nonsense is often relied on to justify aggression (witness the 'State of Israel) if there is none available, then 'Fabrication' becomes a useful weapon (witness the Iraq situation) if territorial issues are the predominant need for a military purpose (witness the situation in Cyprus) if fear of allegiance to a foreign power is at the root of a campaign of aggression (witness Ireland) (witness Cuba) the list goes on.

Such statements as I make, do not confirm that I am in support of indiscriminate slaughter, on the contary, I believe them to be entirely the opposite, exposure to the evils perpetrated by aggressors may deter them from further acts since they may become aware that they are deceiving fewer and fewer of those they try to influence.

Some, like miltiades, readily accept any propoganda they are allowed to receive, others, like myself, THINK about what is taking place and air their views.

I now invite the merry band of miltiades supporters to once again offer insult and disparaging remarks to counter my views, don't forget the expletives, I am sure you consider them to be of some importance in your rebuffs.

As to myself, I am content to know that my views are my own, NOT the views of some mendacious politician who relies on the circulation of misinformation to secure the support of those of a certain persuasion.

In my considered opinion. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 20, 2008 9:29 am

I know you are concentrating on "American Diplomacy in Iraq" in this thread; but if that is an example of somewhere where such an oxymoron is applicable :roll: ..... Afghanistan is a place where the Americans have dispensed with any such pretence ....

DemocracyNow wrote:US Plans to Build 40-Acre Prison Site in Afghanistan
The US military is planning to build a new 40-acre prison complex in Afghanistan near Kabul. The $60 million site will replace the makeshift prison at the Bagram military base, where the US is currently holding about 630 prisoners. Some of the prisoners at Bagram have been held for five years without charge.
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Postby Eliko » Tue May 20, 2008 9:41 am

Oracle wrote:I know you are concentrating on "American Diplomacy in Iraq" in this thread; but if that is an example of somewhere where such an oxymoron is applicable :roll: ..... Afghanistan is a place where the Americans have dispensed with any such pretence ....

DemocracyNow wrote:US Plans to Build 40-Acre Prison Site in Afghanistan
The US military is planning to build a new 40-acre prison complex in Afghanistan near Kabul. The $60 million site will replace the makeshift prison at the Bagram military base, where the US is currently holding about 630 prisoners. Some of the prisoners at Bagram have been held for five years without charge.


It's possible that they may be expecting an escalation in business shortly, I wonder if the recent talks with Israel may have broached the subject of incarcerating the thousands of prisoners held unlawfully by that 'Terrorist State', keep all the 'Bad Eggs' in one basket ?. :wink:
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