Cyprus-Forum.com

[Zimbo]

Stay where you are if it's so bad .....

Just the response I expected - how predictable!

[Oracle]

Stay where you are if it's so bad .....

Just the response I expected - how predictable!

What I do not understand is how you can say you feel sick at the prospect of visiting Cyprus, you have done nothing but moan about Cyprus ... yet you do not consider the obvious option of staying away ...

Tell me: what is this "sickness" you suffer from?

[Oracle]

I'm coming over to Cyprus in 2 weeks for a holiday - I should feel happy and excited. I feel sick!

[JimB]

I think also that it is a total comparative of national standards of personal and general security. This kid probably wasn't born when the world saw the demise of Ceaucescu. Romania's whole outlook is positive now and has been for years. They are rebuilding and progressing. This child has come to Cyp and doesn't see the degree of positivity he did in his homeland. It doesn't necessarily mean his new home is any worse, just different. He is also suffering psychological upheavals. His mind is going through all sorts and he is trying to adapt, at an early age, to an alien environment.

I think this is a very unfair article aimed at tarnishing the image of Cyprus. Unfair in that they use a child who is vulnerable due to his situation to obtain this information from. I don't think the Cyp Mail should have published this for 101 reasons.

Yes, I agree that it doesn't make good reading. However, this was the lead article on the front page of Cyprus's English language newspaper that's published to an international audience.

I'm sure the normal standards of journalism apply (check sources, verify facts etc.). If for no other reason that to avoid a libel case.

The first step to stamping out racism is to acknowledge it exists.

Denial just perpetuates this evil.

Denouncing his mental state as a form of justification is an insult to this extremely courageous young man.

Very sad.

[simonwjones]

AQ, could you please use the "Quote" button instead of copy & pasting previous post. It's very difficult to read.

Hey, you've knicked my signature man. Think of something on your own.

[simonwjones]

I smell something large and brown here!!!

.... well if it was small and brown it may have been your brain

No bad, not bad at all...

Shouldn't an old man like you be tucked up in bed with Co-co and a crossword?

Pension day tomorrow isn't it?

[Xybadog]

I think also that it is a total comparative of national standards of personal and general security. This kid probably wasn't born when the world saw the demise of Ceaucescu. Romania's whole outlook is positive now and has been for years. They are rebuilding and progressing. This child has come to Cyp and doesn't see the degree of positivity he did in his homeland. It doesn't necessarily mean his new home is any worse, just different. He is also suffering psychological upheavals. His mind is going through all sorts and he is trying to adapt, at an early age, to an alien environment.

I think this is a very unfair article aimed at tarnishing the image of Cyprus. Unfair in that they use a child who is vulnerable due to his situation to obtain this information from. I don't think the Cyp Mail should have published this for 101 reasons.

Yes, I agree that it doesn't make good reading. However, this was the lead article on the front page of Cyprus's English language newspaper that's published to an international audience.

I'm sure the normal standards of journalism apply (check sources, verify facts etc.). If for no other reason that to avoid a libel case.

The first step to stamping out racism is to acknowledge it exists.

Denial just perpetuates this evil.

Denouncing his mental state as a form of justification is an insult to this extremely courageous young man.

Very sad.

I wasn't denouncing his mental state Jim, but highlighting what he would be going through as the norm. If I had commented on any any other mental factors on top of those that are considered the norm for any youngster in his situation, then I would agree it was a denouncement, but that is not the case in what I stated. I can also call on personal experience as I went through something similar at the age of 15.

[simonwjones]

I think also that it is a total comparative of national standards of personal and general security. This kid probably wasn't born when the world saw the demise of Ceaucescu. Romania's whole outlook is positive now and has been for years. They are rebuilding and progressing. This child has come to Cyp and doesn't see the degree of positivity he did in his homeland. It doesn't necessarily mean his new home is any worse, just different. He is also suffering psychological upheavals. His mind is going through all sorts and he is trying to adapt, at an early age, to an alien environment.

I think this is a very unfair article aimed at tarnishing the image of Cyprus. Unfair in that they use a child who is vulnerable due to his situation to obtain this information from. I don't think the Cyp Mail should have published this for 101 reasons.

Yes, I agree that it doesn't make good reading. However, this was the lead article on the front page of Cyprus's English language newspaper that's published to an international audience.

I'm sure the normal standards of journalism apply (check sources, verify facts etc.). If for no other reason that to avoid a libel case.

The first step to stamping out racism is to acknowledge it exists.

Denial just perpetuates this evil.

Denouncing his mental state as a form of justification is an insult to this extremely courageous young man.

Very sad.

I wasn't denouncing his mental state Jim, but highlighting what he would be going through as the norm. If I had commented on any any other mental factors on top of those that are considered the norm for any youngster in his situation, then I would agree it was a denouncement, but that is not the case in what I stated. I can also call on personal experience as I went through something similar at the age of 15.

Change your signature - you got a brain dude?

[Xybadog]

AQ, could you please use the "Quote" button instead of copy & pasting previous post. It's very difficult to read.

Hey, you've knicked my signature man. Think of something on your own.

Maybe you nicked mine

[miltiades]

I've been dipping in and out of this forum for several months and been undecided whether or not to participate.

We love this Island.

We have a house here and are very frequent visitors and are made generally very welcome. We are English. We do not speak Greek, have no tatoos but quite like Keo beer.

We have however been subject to several instances of 'Racism' in Cyprus.
Driving out of a car park in Polis (in a zed car) a gang of youths spat through the open window onto my face. Next day in the same car driving into Polis a 'package' was thrown into the windscreen of the car by a youth.

There is a definite undercurrent of racism and resentment towards the English in Cyprus, which is reflected on this forum.

I do not pretend to understand the history and politics of this lovely island so do you really hate us?

Im afraid I have to dissagree with you. The Cypriots on the whole are very friendly to visitors and more so the English. Im afraid once again I will have to bring my personal experience on to the forum.
My wife is English , we have been together since 1963 .
My sister in law is also English and has been with my older brother since 1962.
Both look 100% English and both DO NOT SPEAK GREEK other than the most colloqualy used words. Both my wife and sister in law have spent considerable , protracted time in Cyprus either on their own or with either my self or my brother.
Not once has either of them brought to our attention an incident involving racism , in their younger days they perhaps attracted a leering look now and again but NEVER have they encountered any anti English sentiments.
My own daughter , half English , arrived in Cyprus some 15 years ago unable to speak Greek , she speaks fluently now , again she never once encountered anti British feelings.
I'm talking from my own experience and that of many of my friends in similar circumstances.
Cyprus is still one of the friendliest and most welcoming places on earth , both the G/Cs and the T/Cs are extremely hospitable people.
Its bad luck that you were in Polis when GR was there too !!!

When I am in Cyprus and out with Greek friends, I am 'respected' and looked after by the Greeks. When I am out with my husband (English) or English friends, the Greek attitude changes! Not in restaurants, but in shops and generally out and about. When I am out on my own, Greek men look at me as if I'm dirt, and the younger Greek women appear very unfriendly. The kids are rude too. I have had several unpleasant episodes in Cyprus with Greek youths. You are obviously a good man - I always read your posts and you are fair at all times - I respect this. So I'm assuming you are Greek, then naturally the Greeks would be more considerate to your family. I'm coming over to Cyprus in 2 weeks for a holiday - I should feel happy and excited. I feel sick!

Well Im a G/C , not a Greek but I understand what your saying.
I have related the experiences of my wife's visits to Cyprus over the last 40 or so years. She is of course a perfect lady , very English and very reserved , not given to sudden bursts of temper as I'm . You have to bear in mind that racism , as bad as it is , exists everywhere and has existed since the world begun. Its how you handle racist remarks , a smile can be very disarming on the other hand resorting to aggression when faced with a racist remark can only exacerbate a situation. My daugher for instance doesn't tolerate rudeness and will resort to aggressiveness if required. I honestly beleive that in spite of the atrocious way that the British government , (may they all continue fiddling their expenses) have treated Cyprus , in general the Cypriots are able to differentiate between government policies , as I'm for instance , and the British people.
England is to a very large percentage of Cypriots a second home , not Greece but England.
We , Cypriots of the UK , understand that England has been good to us and I most certainly appreciate it as I'm sure the other 250 thousand UK Cypriots do.