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[shahmaran]

So much for the EU freedom of speech and this and that, god dam hypocrits!

Shah, I did read your response and can confirm it is no longer there.

Well at least you saw 74LB, it was a good proof of the fact that "boomers=the forum fart" does not even read his own stupid articles never the less tries to start a debate here hoping that more people will join him on his quest to bring down the Turkish government through propaganda and insults

Shame about the posts though grrrrrrrrrrrr...

[boomerang]

So much for the EU freedom of speech and this and that, god dam hypocrits!

Shah, I did read your response and can confirm it is no longer there.

Well at least you saw 74LB, it was a good proof of the fact that "boomers=the forum fart" does not even read his own stupid articles never the less tries to start a debate here hoping that more people will join him on his quest to bring down the Turkish government through propaganda and insults

Shame about the posts though grrrrrrrrrrrr...

hey little shitforbrains, show me the insult and the propaganda...Propaganda is when I make the news, but when reported straight from the "fascist state" how can it be propaganda...

Try and comprehend for a change what is written...

1..."turkey=fascist state" is in a hurry, as if the whole nation is on speed, to get in the EU...
2..."turkey=fasacist state" is telling tcs to start making progress as soon as possible...
3..."turkey=fascist state" is telling you, you are gonna be sold out sooner than later and there is nothing you can do about it...

Now show me the insults and the propaganda... and here is your stupid first post with the insult...

Probably because it is sadly ironic that "boomers=the forum fart" posts articles about "Propaganda wars"

Now the question is my little ottoman shitforbrains, how is it you always come out with insults and then cry foul later?

You could have chosen to debate the article, like a a grown up, (me thinks expecting too much here) but rather you chose to insult...some debating skills ha?...you must have graduated from the school of shitforbrains...

in any case here is


"turkey=fascist state" can demand and say anything to the RoC, but unlike you we can tell them to fuck themselves...can you say the same?...So if the article makes any reference to the RoC is nul and void...get it shitforbrains

[boomerang]

Isn't what you highlighted your President Christofias's thoughts, rather than criticiscm from Turkey ?

Christofias has started complaining that the working committees established to prepare the ground for full-fledged peace talks in June were not progressing well and for their success the two sides needed to agree on three fundamental issues:

of which the one you highlighted is 2 out of 3 ?

Not really...someone in "turkey=fascist state" is a mind reader...show me an article that reflects the second point as it came out of President X mouth...

[humanist]

settle boys ........ kiss and make up now

[74LB]

Isn't what you highlighted your President Christofias's thoughts, rather than criticiscm from Turkey ?

Christofias has started complaining that the working committees established to prepare the ground for full-fledged peace talks in June were not progressing well and for their success the two sides needed to agree on three fundamental issues:

of which the one you highlighted is 2 out of 3 ?

Not really...someone in "turkey=fascist state" is a mind reader...show me an article that reflects the second point as it came out of President X mouth...

If you assume the journalist is making this up, then fair enough but the article says :

Yet, the two sides are using every possible backstage method to prepare grounds to put the blame of a possible failure of their peacemaking efforts on the other side. For example, Christofias has started complaining that the working committees established to prepare the ground for full-fledged peace talks in June were not progressing well and for their success the two sides needed to agree on three fundamental issues:

1- What is a bi-zonal and bi-communal federation? Is it a federation of two communities in a unitary state? Or, is it a confederation of two states under loose federal joint governance? The two sides must develop a common language on this issue…

2- Who is negotiating with the Greek Cypriot side? Turkish Cypriots or Ankara? Turkish Cypriot members of the working committees are incapable of agreeing on any issue without consulting Ankara? The Turkish Cypriot side must decide, if they cannot talk and need to get Ankara's approval on every issue, that talks must be held with Ankara not with Talat's representatives… Thus, the two leaders must agree on all thorny issues and reassign the committees to continue their works, perhaps for an additional three-week period (That is, Greek Cypriots want comprehensive talks to start in late July, rather than in June as scheduled).

3- Why wait for a comprehensive settlement? On easy issues that the two sides have agreement, implementation may start immediately. Turkish Cypriots should stop dragging their feet on this issue…

These demands of Christofias , may appear reasonable but indeed fall contrary to the agreed “no dialogue through media” principle and clearly are signals of a new propaganda war.

To me the article is clear enough, but where the journalist got it from I wouldn't know.

[boomerang]

Ok 74LB, lets look at what the article says...

Christofias has started complaining that the working committees established to prepare the ground for full-fledged peace talks in June were not progressing well

The above President X has said...

but

for their success the two sides needed to agree on three fundamental issues

I doubt he said...You can see clearly this is the writers input...He is talking as the third person...

further more

Who is negotiating with the Greek Cypriot side? Turkish Cypriots or Ankara? Turkish Cypriot members of the working committees are incapable of agreeing on any issue without consulting Ankara? The Turkish Cypriot side must decide, if they cannot talk and need to get Ankara's approval on every issue, that talks must be held with Ankara not with Talat's representatives… Thus, the two leaders must agree on all thorny issues and reassign the committees to continue their works, perhaps for an additional three-week period (That is, Greek Cypriots want comprehensive talks to start in late July, rather than in June as scheduled).

I doubt he would have said it, otherwise "turkey=fascist state" and the pseudo would have been up in arms, and a sure derailment of the talks...

I view the above as "turkey=fascist state" seeing her EU aspirations flying out the door...and giving warnings to the tcs...

[74LB]

Boomerang, you read it your way and I'll read it mine.

Either way I would hope that Christofias and more importantly Talat has the clout to negotiate without the need to constantly refer to Ankara, otherwise its all a waste of time. If so, Cyprus may as well negotiate with Turkey - that much I agree on.

[74LB]

One for the Moderator - how come you can remove a post from Shahmaran in this thread (which in my opinion was perfectly acceptable), but leave several vulgar/disgusting comments in this thread (even though you have now locked it)

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17639&start=140

especially the final post/pic ?

How do you determine what to leave, and what to delete ?

[boomerang]

Boomerang, you read it your way and I'll read it mine.

Either way I would hope that Christofias and more importantly Talat has the clout to negotiate without the need to constantly refer to Ankara, otherwise its all a waste of time. If so, Cyprus may as well negotiate with Turkey - that much I agree on.

...the article clearly making reference that the RoC doesn't know who she is negotiating is very wrong...you and I know, the generals are calling the shots or you think they gonna let Talat roam wild?...not in your dreams nelly...

I just wish they come out and say it rather making a fool out of the whole process...

And may I suggest next time you wanna air your views to the moderator, may I suggest you send a PM rather than posting in a thread...unless of cource you are trying to make a point...which in this case the mod might not see it due to not reading this thread, making your request for an answer fall on deaf ears...

[74LB]

If the moderator can see Shah's post in here, why won't they see mine ?
Anyway, I've sent a pm as well.

The point I was trying to make is it seems there are no rules as to what can be deleted or not. The reply was deleted from this thread, hence my post here. Or are they picking on certain individuals ?