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[denizaksulu]

Thats what they teach you at your schools, and it is nothing but a lie my friend. << quote

No, they don't treat us bad things at school, like they do in your schools..

Again empty slogans xxNilxx.

In our schools they don't teach us anything against Turkish Cypriots. Against Turkey yes, and everything is true, but not against TCs. In fact they omit many of the crimes that TCs commited against us.

On the other hand in your shcools they brainwash you with hate propaganda against Greek Cypriots.
You know why is like that xxNilxx? Because the goverment of Republic of Cyprus has unification as an aim. It aims for a united Cyprus where all people live together in peace. therefore it is not in its interests to spread hate between the two communities.

On the other hand the aim of the occupation regime is partition. For this reason they are trying to present GCs as the "evils" in order to excuse why it is necessary to steal the lands of the "evil GCs" and Cypriots to be separated so the "innocent TCs" can be separated from the "evil GCs".

and also why do u keep referring to ottoman empire? when the greeks first came to cyprus, i bet they did the exact same thing.

First of all if Turkey was any different towards us than what the Ottoman empire was then all that would be forgotten and forgiven and would be nothing more than history. Unfortunately Turkey continues today to act in the exact same way, invading our lands, keeping them under occupation and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom.

And about how Greeks first came to Cyprus you lost the bet. Greeks came to Cyprus many 1000s years ago, when Cyprus was mostly uninhabited and they created their own new cities on land that belonged to nobody. The Greeks came to Cyprus as traders and made Cyprus their home. The Turks came to Cyprus as invaders, with the aim to enslave and exploit the Cypriots.

Mr Broken Grammaphone, you say "On the other hand in your shcools they brainwash you with hate propaganda against Greek Cypriots. "

I will be obliged if you could furnish us with some proof of this

[boomerang]

Its an easy one Deniz...
1...Tell me what do they tell the kids regarding the "peace operation"
2...how do they explain the ethnic cleansing to these kids...
3...What is the justification for both actions?

[denizaksulu]

An overwhelming majority of TCs want partition, or disguised partition like Annan plan. In this forum for example the only TCs that want unification are Kikapu and Bir.
If you are not racist and you want unification then why you don't agree to end all illegalities, let everybody return to their own homes, and all Cypriots to be equal without racist discriminations and live anywhere they want in their own island?

The most racist act ever committed on this island, which you continue to support today, is the ehtnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their own lands. You expelled from their own homes 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots simply because they are Greek, and now you claim that our lands are supposedly yours!!! And then you say you are not racist????

you are wrong when you state this. "An overwhelming majority of TCs want partition, or disguised partition like Annan plan. In this forum for example the only TCs that want unification are Kikapu and Bir."" [/

[Piratis]

Thats what they teach you at your schools, and it is nothing but a lie my friend. << quote

No, they don't treat us bad things at school, like they do in your schools..

Again empty slogans xxNilxx.

In our schools they don't teach us anything against Turkish Cypriots. Against Turkey yes, and everything is true, but not against TCs. In fact they omit many of the crimes that TCs commited against us.

On the other hand in your shcools they brainwash you with hate propaganda against Greek Cypriots.
You know why is like that xxNilxx? Because the goverment of Republic of Cyprus has unification as an aim. It aims for a united Cyprus where all people live together in peace. therefore it is not in its interests to spread hate between the two communities.

On the other hand the aim of the occupation regime is partition. For this reason they are trying to present GCs as the "evils" in order to excuse why it is necessary to steal the lands of the "evil GCs" and Cypriots to be separated so the "innocent TCs" can be separated from the "evil GCs".

and also why do u keep referring to ottoman empire? when the greeks first came to cyprus, i bet they did the exact same thing.

First of all if Turkey was any different towards us than what the Ottoman empire was then all that would be forgotten and forgiven and would be nothing more than history. Unfortunately Turkey continues today to act in the exact same way, invading our lands, keeping them under occupation and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom.

And about how Greeks first came to Cyprus you lost the bet. Greeks came to Cyprus many 1000s years ago, when Cyprus was mostly uninhabited and they created their own new cities on land that belonged to nobody. The Greeks came to Cyprus as traders and made Cyprus their home. The Turks came to Cyprus as invaders, with the aim to enslave and exploit the Cypriots.

Mr Broken Grammaphone, you say "On the other hand in your shcools they brainwash you with hate propaganda against Greek Cypriots. "

I will be obliged if you could furnish us with some proof of this

I base this on what almost all TCs in here believe. If in your schools they taught the truth then the younger TCs wouldn't just adopt the hate propaganda of the Dektash generation.

Two examples:

1) Apparently in the TC schools they don't tell to the students that it is the TCs who initiated the inter communal confilict in 1958. They apparently don't tell the students that in that conflict some 100s of people from both sides where killed. They let the students believe that GCs are the ones who initiated the conflict, and that the conflict was one way only, with the "evil" GCs killing the "innocent" TCs, never telling them about the 100s of innocent GCs that got killed.

2) For 1974 they obviously repeat to the students the usual Turkish propaganda lie, that Turkey made a "peace operation" to "save the innocent TCs who were killed". They don't tell them the truth, which is that in 1974 no TC was killed until after the Turks with the help of the TC extremists invaded Cyprus and started to kill Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

Is this not what they teach TC students Deniz? Do you not admit that the whole education in the occupied areas is based on excusing the invasion and the creation of the pseudo state, and they use their "evil GC" stories in order to achieve this?

[denizaksulu]

Its an easy one Deniz...
1...Tell me what do they tell the kids regarding the "peace operation"
2...how do they explain the ethnic cleansing to these kids...
3...What is the justification for both actions?

I was hoping Piratis would tell me what they teach.

Halil provided the text books they use.Your answers will be there.

[denizaksulu]

Thats what they teach you at your schools, and it is nothing but a lie my friend. << quote

No, they don't treat us bad things at school, like they do in your schools..

Again empty slogans xxNilxx.

In our schools they don't teach us anything against Turkish Cypriots. Against Turkey yes, and everything is true, but not against TCs. In fact they omit many of the crimes that TCs commited against us.

On the other hand in your shcools they brainwash you with hate propaganda against Greek Cypriots.
You know why is like that xxNilxx? Because the goverment of Republic of Cyprus has unification as an aim. It aims for a united Cyprus where all people live together in peace. therefore it is not in its interests to spread hate between the two communities.

On the other hand the aim of the occupation regime is partition. For this reason they are trying to present GCs as the "evils" in order to excuse why it is necessary to steal the lands of the "evil GCs" and Cypriots to be separated so the "innocent TCs" can be separated from the "evil GCs".

and also why do u keep referring to ottoman empire? when the greeks first came to cyprus, i bet they did the exact same thing.

First of all if Turkey was any different towards us than what the Ottoman empire was then all that would be forgotten and forgiven and would be nothing more than history. Unfortunately Turkey continues today to act in the exact same way, invading our lands, keeping them under occupation and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom.

And about how Greeks first came to Cyprus you lost the bet. Greeks came to Cyprus many 1000s years ago, when Cyprus was mostly uninhabited and they created their own new cities on land that belonged to nobody. The Greeks came to Cyprus as traders and made Cyprus their home. The Turks came to Cyprus as invaders, with the aim to enslave and exploit the Cypriots.

Mr Broken Grammaphone, you say "On the other hand in your shcools they brainwash you with hate propaganda against Greek Cypriots. "

I will be obliged if you could furnish us with some proof of this

I base this on what almost all TCs in here believe. If in your schools they taught the truth then the younger TCs wouldn't just adopt the hate propaganda of the Dektash generation.

Two examples:

1) Apparently in the TC schools they don't tell to the students that it is the TCs who initiated the inter communal confilict in 1958. They apparently don't tell the students that in that conflict some 100s of people from both sides where killed. They let the students believe that GCs are the ones who initiated the conflict, and that the conflict was one way only, with the "evil" GCs killing the "innocent" TCs, never telling them about the 100s of innocent GCs that got killed.

2) For 1974 they obviously repeat to the students the usual Turkish propaganda lie, that Turkey made a "peace operation" to "save the innocent TCs who were killed". They don't tell them the truth, which is that in 1974 no TC was killed until after the Turks with the help of the TC extremists invaded Cyprus and started to kill Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

Is this not what they teach TC students Deniz? Do you not admit that the whole education in the occupied areas is based on excusing the invasion and the creation of the pseudo state, and they use their "evil GC" stories in order to achieve this?

Just seen this reply. I will get back to you as I am gong to bed. I hopr what your children are taught is better than ours.

[Viewpoint]

An overwhelming majority of TCs want partition, or disguised partition like Annan plan. In this forum for example the only TCs that want unification are Kikapu and Bir.

If you are not racist and you want unification then why you don't agree to end all illegalities, let everybody return to their own homes, and all Cypriots to be equal without racist discriminations and live anywhere they want in their own island?

The most racist act ever committed on this island, which you continue to support today, is the ehtnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their own lands. You expelled from their own homes 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots simply because they are Greek, and now you claim that our lands are supposedly yours!!! And then you say you are not racist????

What about when you did the same? why were you not correctıng illegalities back then? Where was democracy and human rıghts for all back then?

[Piratis]

An overwhelming majority of TCs want partition, or disguised partition like Annan plan. In this forum for example the only TCs that want unification are Kikapu and Bir.

If you are not racist and you want unification then why you don't agree to end all illegalities, let everybody return to their own homes, and all Cypriots to be equal without racist discriminations and live anywhere they want in their own island?

The most racist act ever committed on this island, which you continue to support today, is the ehtnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their own lands. You expelled from their own homes 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots simply because they are Greek, and now you claim that our lands are supposedly yours!!! And then you say you are not racist????

What about when you did the same? why were you not correctıng illegalities back then? Where was democracy and human rıghts for all back then?

Democracy and human rights for all is what we always wanted. It is you who didn't want democracy, and insisted on the racist separation of people based on their ethnic background, so you would be able to impose your minority opinion on Cyprus. This is what you insisting today as well. Nothing changed since the 1958 for you.

[Viewpoint]

An overwhelming majority of TCs want partition, or disguised partition like Annan plan. In this forum for example the only TCs that want unification are Kikapu and Bir.

If you are not racist and you want unification then why you don't agree to end all illegalities, let everybody return to their own homes, and all Cypriots to be equal without racist discriminations and live anywhere they want in their own island?

The most racist act ever committed on this island, which you continue to support today, is the ehtnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots from their own lands. You expelled from their own homes 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots simply because they are Greek, and now you claim that our lands are supposedly yours!!! And then you say you are not racist????

What about when you did the same? why were you not correctıng illegalities back then? Where was democracy and human rıghts for all back then?

Democracy and human rights for all is what we always wanted. It is you who didn't want democracy, and insisted on the racist separation of people based on their ethnic background, so you would be able to impose your minority opinion on Cyprus. This is what you insisting today as well. Nothing changed since the 1958 for you.

Please answer the questıon.

[repulsewarrior]

...correcting 'both' "illegalities" is what is called for from us, by the rest of Humanity; not "you did what we did back to you, so you deserve it"