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[Piratis]

Hmm.. I guess lying is all Greeks seem to be good at. The minority population never attacked the majority first. EOKA? Grivas? You cold-blooded murderers seem to have forgotten those days to quickly.

I am very happy with the situation in Cyprus right now, and I truely believe that we do not have to unite with the murderers of my mother's and father's families, grivas supporters. Right now there is peace in Cyprus. I hope that Cyprus will always stay separate like this and the many traitor Turkish Cypriots who want unification with pis gavurs (dirty evil Orthadox) will see your true evil face.

Thats what they teach you at your schools, and it is nothing but a lie my friend.

The intercommunal conflict started in 1958 when Turkish Cypriots attacked the Greek Cypriots. Have you watched the video I posted to you? It clearly documents this undisputed fact, and yet you still prefer to repeat the propaganda lies they teach you in your schools in order to excuse the crimes you continue to commit against us today.

It is also interesting that you accuse Cypriots of being "murderers" and you pretent to be innocent.

Lets see the events and the murders:

1) From 1489 until 1570 Turks attack Cyprus in many occasions, killing Cypriots, raiding our cities and taking captives as slaves.

2) 1570 the Turks attack again with a full-scale invasion, killing 10s of thousands of people. In Nicosia alone they killed 20.000 Nicosians.

3) 1571 - 1878 Cyprus is under Turkish rule. The Turks treat the Cypriots as second category people with almost no right. Every time the Cypriots try to revolt the Turks slaughter Cypriots by the 100s and 1000s.

4) After only a short brake of 80 years, in 1958, and while Cypriots are revolting against their new ruler the British, the Turks attack Cypriots again in order to help the British to oppress our revolution. In that conflict which the Turks started (watch the video I posted earlier) both sides have a few 100s of losses each.

5) In 1974, the Turks invade Cyprus again, killing 1000s and ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands. The Turkish propaganda lies saying that they invaded supposdedly to protect the TCs, while the truth is that no TC was harmed in 1974 before the Turkish invasion had started. The few 100s of TCs that were killed in that war were killed only after the Turks with the help of TCs started their invasion and killing Cypriots by the 1000s.

So:

a) The Turks are the ones who started all conflicts in Cyprus:

The Turks are the ones who without any provocation from us started the whole conflict by raiding and then invading and occupying our island.

The Turks are the ones who started the intercommunal conflict in 1958

The Turks are the ones who started the war of 1974.

b) In terms of murders, the Turks have killed 1000s and 10s of thousands of Cypriots in several occasions, while your losses which are all in conflicts which you started where only some 100s.

Man , I hate these murdering Turks . Hang on a second , I am a Turk. Do I hate my murdering self ? Did I imagine the Greeks trying to destroy us murdering Turks during 1960 to 1974?

Apparently your memory is failing you. Otherwise you would know that the inter communal conflict didn't start in 1960, but in 1958, and it is the TCs who started it by attacking Greek Cypriots. Furthermore in that conflict both sides had about an equal number of casualties.

I like it how the TCs omit the fact that it is them who started the inter-communal conflict, then also omit the fact that they killed 100s of GCs in that conflict, and then they talk only about their own casualties and suffering during the conflict in their effort to present themselves as the "innocents" and the GCs as the "evils" who now deserve to have their lands stolen and their rights violated.

[Piratis]

Piratis, T/Cs did not start anything first. British did. Then you decided to enosis with Greece, Grivas, Makarios and EOKA B .. managing to evict half of the turksh cypriot population from Cyprus and killing the others. Please don't even try to deny the fact that you have never done anything, when we all know you have.
TMT (which some members of my family were one of the 10 creators, of course Rauf Denktaş, and Rıza Vuruşkan) was The Turkish Resistance Organization against EOKA which was killing our people.
In response to the growing demand for Enosis (union of Cyprus with Greece), a number of Turkish Cypriots became convinced that this was the only way to protect the interests and identity of the Turkish Cypriot population against a militant Greek Cypriot threat.

People got hurt from both sides... you just like to blame everything on the minority.

So they evicted half the TC population and killed the others?? So there must be no TC left in Cyprus then, right?

I have documented undisputed facts that show that it is the TCs who started the killings against GCs. So why do you continue to lie?

Here is the video again just for you:


And in that conflict, which you started, some 100s of people from each side where killed.

All the Greek Cypriots did was fight for their self-determination against the colonialists as it was our right to do after being ruled by British, Turks and so many other foreigners.

It is you with your TMT that started the inter-communal conflict by attacking us in 1958, and demanded that we should be exterminated from half of our island. Up until then we didn't harm you, neither we asked for any of your rights to be violated.

So get your facts straight.

[xxNilxx]

You ethnically cleansed many Turkish Cypriots from their homes.. Going to the villages and killing the people at night.

I hate the fact you try to hide the fact that you killed many Turkish Cypriots.
You didn't do anything up to 1958??? You started doing things at 1955, with your beloved Grivas which you all support, creating EOKA B brutally mudering many members of my mother's family.

[xxNilxx]

Why do you continue to lie? I ask you the same question.

Also Turkish Cypriots who live abroad (refugees from their home) and old Turkish Cypriots who suffered have a different way of thinking to the young ones and the ones who live in Cyprus. Ones in Cyprus want to unify.

Do not show me your videos.. I can show you about 6 videos about how you Makarios said ''by the time turkey comes to cyprus, there will be no turkish cypriot left to save'' and about you have brutally murdered my people.

[xxNilxx]

All you Greeks think about is ''the past'' get on with 2008 and you life, deli gavurs.

[growuptcs]

xxNilxx, your dimentia is kicking in again. Take 2 more pills and call me in the morning.

[repulsewarrior]

This much i hope can be agreed, 'we' have lived our lives on this little island for thousands of years. at this moment, 'we' have the choice to live as Cypriots, people of Freewill, having this identity as a State within the framework of a larger body, (EU, UN, etc.), as this island's dwellers, or to entrench the sentiment that Nationality subjugates our self determination, as the stewards of its Heritance, and our Sovereignty is without an attachment to this land, but to its exploitation, by the collectives who are living, and possessing it, today. How the Modern Age will be defined by our acts is unknown, but they are surely important with all the time that has been spent to find a Solution toward this Problem.

[xxNilxx]

Why would I want to call a Greek in the morning???? God, I wouldn't even want to dream of that.

[growuptcs]

What do you want to be called then if your trying to deny them their rights and land?


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Most of ones life its about heritage. That you try to erase from me.

[xxNilxx]

How am I denying them of their land??

How is one girl denying them the rights of their land?? What about the land of my family in greek cyprus?