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[Eliko]

Here, here to that Deniz. For some strange reason it is regarded as cool, the thing to do ?

Could also be the result of having nothing better to do.

[denizaksulu]

Here, here to that Deniz. For some strange reason it is regarded as cool, the thing to do ?

Could also be the result of having nothing better to do.

Send them to see what the Taliban are doing to the Americans or vice versa.

[JimB]

It's not only the UK Talisker. The Brits have rather a poor reputation Europe wide. Riga, Krakow, Czech Republic, all have suffered under the excess of alcohol intake and the behaviour that follows.
Yes, I am becoming an old fart, I have no problem with drink in moderation but excess seems to bring out an aggressive tendancy with the Brits.

Bit unfair purdey and not sure where you get this from. Excessive drinking isn't just a UK problem nor is the rise in anti-social behaviour or aggression.

I've been lucky enough to travel and / or live in a lot of different countries and have found that the Brits are generally held in very good regard by the majority of places. I'd strongly argue that the Brits reputation is no worse than many other races around the world.

A lot of the places you mention have actively marketed themselves as 'party' towns, bit like Napa a few years back.

They are happy to take the cash but unwilling to pay for the policing to deal with it .

They consistently fail to introduce or enforce regulations and clamp down on the premises that continue to serve alcohol to somebody who is clearly incapable of holding it.

Lack of infrastructure and an inability of the local area to cope with the increase in numbers adds to this problem.

Always easier to blame the foreigners (whoever they may be) for the bad behaviour rather than address the underlying issues that precipitated it.

Many cities e.g. Amsterdam, Berlin etc. etc. manage to do it quite well.

[purdey]

Maybe a tad unfair. Likewise I am fotunate to have travelled and still do. Yes you are quiet correct the countries I have mentioned marketed themselves as party places.
Unfortunately they went down the route of marketing their cities as stag areas. Initially all went well and then the advent of cheap airfares hit, thousands rather than hundreds started to appear and the trouble started.
Now these places are adopting a no tolerance approach, signs on clubs and pubs saying no stags allowed. Riga have a different approach the Police take no prisoners but do take a huge fine (including any credit cards you have on you) if caught urinating on public buildings, vomiting and acting in a drunken fashion.
As for the UK, security guards in hospitals, drunks attacking nurses not isolated but a regular occurence at the weekend. I have a friend who asked for a transfer from Cambridgeshire Police, as he was fed up with drunken brawls in Cambridge on a Friday and Saturday night. He was posted to Carlisle which in his opinion is just as bad if not worse.
As for nothing to do Eliko, a poor excuse, indicative of the times

[Oracle]

I was surprised all chose to ignore this:

But critics claim it is consistent with an AKP "hidden agenda" of gradually eliminating drinking in public through a succession of escalating restrictions.

... it sounds like it may just be the tip of the iceberg of increasing restrictions as Turkey sinks into the depths of Islam.

[denizaksulu]

I was surprised all chose to ignore this:

But critics claim it is consistent with an AKP "hidden agenda" of gradually eliminating drinking in public through a succession of escalating restrictions.

... it sounds like it may just be the tip of the iceberg of increasing restrictions as Turkey sinks into the depths of Islam.

i THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. kEEP THE STREETS FREE OF BOOZERS.

sHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ALL OVER THE WORLD.

Sorry about the caps. I promise I was not shouting. Yet.

[JimB]

I was surprised all chose to ignore this:

But critics claim it is consistent with an AKP "hidden agenda" of gradually eliminating drinking in public through a succession of escalating restrictions.

... it sounds like it may just be the tip of the iceberg of increasing restrictions as Turkey sinks into the depths of Islam.

I hear what your saying Oracle. Not sure how these critics can take a sensible piece of legislation that is in keeping with the times (i.e. restricting the sale of alcohol to licensed and regulated establishments) and to a wholesale ban of alcohol.

A lot of countries are examining or implementing bans on consumption of alcohol in public areas.

TBH I think the 'critics claim' bit is unfounded and inflammatory unless the author cares to reveal who these critics are and the basis for the claim.

The article doesn't show how this law could progress to an outright ban. It doesn't reveal who proposed or voted for the legislation in the first place or whether or not it was contested or amended by anyone.

Answers to this could be useful to getting to the bottom of the motivations behind it.

[Oracle]

Optimistic outlooks are good ... but let's not be too obtuse about wider implications.

In Turkey, secularists escalate fight against ruling AKP

The country's highest court is weighing whether to allow a motion to shut down the party, saying its Islamic initiatives cross a constitutional line.
By Yigal Schleifer
March 27, 2008

Yigal Schleifer discusses whether Turkey's top court is siding with secularists.

Istanbul - Turkey's secular establishment has dramatically escalated its fight to thwart the growing influence of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) and the emerging socially and religiously conservative middle class that it represents.

After protesting the AKP's presidential candidate, precipitating new elections, and then losing out to the AKP at the polls last year, hard-line secularists are now taking a new tack: trying to shut down the party for "expunging" the Constitution's secular principles.

Turkey's highest court is set to decide in the coming days whether to allow the motion, filed by the country's top prosecutor on March 14, to go forward. If the Constitutional Court decides to allow the case to proceed, it could plunge Turkey into a deep crisis, threatening the country's emerging political and economic stability and further jeopardizing its already troubled bid for European Union membership.

How would the decreasing secularisation process effect the average holidaymaker (who let's face it is of the "get pissed as cheaply as possible for maximum holiday hours" type) .... not to mention those who have bought their low-priced properties to holiday permanently within?

[purdey]

Always antagonistic, rarely subtle...baiter.

[Talisker]

I was surprised all chose to ignore this:

But critics claim it is consistent with an AKP "hidden agenda" of gradually eliminating drinking in public through a succession of escalating restrictions.

... it sounds like it may just be the tip of the iceberg of increasing restrictions as Turkey sinks into the depths of Islam.

i THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. kEEP THE STREETS FREE OF BOOZERS.

sHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED ALL OVER THE WORLD.

Sorry about the caps. I promise I was not shouting. Yet.

Having trouble with the keyboard Deniz? Been hitting the bottle already?