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[Get Real!]

1. Iran to surprise Israel by having a nuclear weapons capability earlier than expected and using it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran already has a nuclear warhead or two but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would want to use it, or any other missile for that matter, against Israel without any justifiable provocation, which obviously does not include the exchange of insults.

2. Israel to preempt the above by striking Iran first.

There's always the chance of Israel miscalculating as they have done many times in the past but I fear this would be their last.

3. USA to preempt option 1 and assist Israel through striking Iran first.

If history is anything to go by, the US is smarter than Israel in that they would never attack any country that can properly defend itself.

4. The war of words to continue indefinitely with no action taken.

Most likely scenario until everyone accepts the fact that Iran can no longer be toyed with, and everyone just gets on with life until a new “daemon” is found to blame.


Regards, GR.

[purdey]

You seem to read into alot people write. Should your user name not be GOD, rather than the numerous one's you use on forum. I will fight for what I believe in, I could not give a shit what you think.
You are in no position to point fingers, you are full of rhetoric, but alas show a weakness of will and backbone.

[Talisker]

1. Iran to surprise Israel by having a nuclear weapons capability earlier than expected and using it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran already has a nuclear warhead or two but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would want to use it, or any other missile for that matter, against Israel without any justifiable provocation, which obviously does not include the exchange of insults.

2. Israel to preempt the above by striking Iran first.

There's always the chance of Israel miscalculating as they have done many times in the past but I fear this would be their last.

3. USA to preempt option 1 and assist Israel through striking Iran first.

If history is anything to go by, the US is smarter than Israel in that they would never attack any country that can properly defend itself.

4. The war of words to continue indefinitely with no action taken.

Most likely scenario until everyone accepts the fact that Iran can no longer be toyed with, and everyone just gets on with life until a new “daemon” is found to blame.


Regards, GR.

Thanks for response. I'm distracted by the fitba' (not a Rangers supporter, but patriotic duty calls!), but is option 5 not a possibility? Is there an incentive for Iran NOT to strike Israel if it has the capability, other than the certaintity of anihilation? If the president is crazy, and attacks, will he care about the inevitable retribution and consequences for his own people?

[Get Real!]

1. Iran to surprise Israel by having a nuclear weapons capability earlier than expected and using it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran already has a nuclear warhead or two but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would want to use it, or any other missile for that matter, against Israel without any justifiable provocation, which obviously does not include the exchange of insults.

2. Israel to preempt the above by striking Iran first.

There's always the chance of Israel miscalculating as they have done many times in the past but I fear this would be their last.

3. USA to preempt option 1 and assist Israel through striking Iran first.

If history is anything to go by, the US is smarter than Israel in that they would never attack any country that can properly defend itself.

4. The war of words to continue indefinitely with no action taken.

Most likely scenario until everyone accepts the fact that Iran can no longer be toyed with, and everyone just gets on with life until a new “daemon” is found to blame.

Regards, GR.

Thanks for response. I'm distracted by the fitba' (not a Rangers supporter, but patriotic duty calls!), but is option 5 not a possibility? Is there an incentive for Iran NOT to strike Israel if it has the capability, other than the certaintity of anihilation? If the president is crazy, and attacks, will he care about the inevitable retribution and consequences for his own people?

Again, if history is anything to go by, the probability that Israel will have a “crazy” president is much higher than that of Iran. In the last IDF confrontation with Hizbollah, the Israeli "excuse", for all the death and destruction that eventuated, was that a couple of Israeli soldiers were “kidnapped” on a border that has seen more skirmishes than in the rest of the world put together… go figure!

[purdey]

I am afraid GR, Israel have a policy where all of there people matter. If they were left alone there would be no need for retaliation.
The world is well aware that if Israel or it's people are harmed they will seek retribution, turning the other cheek has proved a hopeless gesture when you are hated by so many.

[Get Real!]

I am afraid GR, Israel have a policy where all of there people matter. If they were left alone there would be no need for retaliation.
The world is well aware that if Israel or it's people are harmed they will seek retribution, turning the other cheek has proved a hopeless gesture when you are hated by so many.

Purdey, the Israeli response was disastrous resulting in the unnecessary death to many on both sides and the two “kidnapped” Israeli soldiers are still… “kidnapped”!

What a complete waste…

[purdey]

GR, you have to understand Israel will never give up it's people. If it costs more lifes, so be it. It may sound a waste (you will no doubt say yes) of lives but that is what keeps the Israeli people strong and keeping faith with their armed forces.
Many Jews felt beytrayed and forgotten during the Holocaust, Israel has always vowed it's people will never feel abandonned again.

[Mills Chapman]

Uhh, last time I checked there are many more countries in the world than 121.

That's why these lists are bs.

Why not include San Marino? Where on this list are the Seychelles?

[georgina]

Ireland, the 32 counties should be listed as the most peaceful country on earth. Considering we have had over 800 years of invasion, plundering, occupation, etc. we pro rata are very placid and peaceful compared to say the USA. Look at the fallout after 7/11, 1 afternoon of terrorism. We definitely are the land of saints.

[Talisker]

Uhh, last time I checked there are many more countries in the world than 121.

That's why these lists are bs.

Why not include San Marino? Where on this list are the Seychelles?

Yes, I'm disappointed more countries are not included - as I pointed out earlier even Afghanistan is not mentioned. However, I otherwise feel this is a still an interesting website and list.

The different indicators used fro this research are found at:
http://www.visionofhumanity.com/GPI_Ind ... /index.php

and the methodology used is described at:
http://www.visionofhumanity.com/WPI_Met ... /index.php

I'm not an old hippy who wanders round with flowers in my hair, but this forum is filled with aggressive discussion and threats, threads describing military hardware, etc so it is useful to remember that we should all be aspiring to making the world a more peaceful place.

As greater men than me have said:

Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today. John F Kennedy

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind. Nonviolence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man. Mahatma Gandhi