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[Viewpoint]

It does not take a genius to figure out that Cyprus is gradually becoming partitioned. A Turkish Cypriot politician and financier I was recently speaking to pointed out that the rapid economic recovery evidenced in ‘Northern Cyprus’ since last year’s referendum is conducive to establishing a ‘state’ there. All the areas of economic activity — tourism, commerce, the construction business, industry, agriculture — are experiencing a boom. And economic dependence on Turkey is slowly waning. Meanwhile the international community is constantly upgrading the status of the north. With the government’s consent, Turkey has been exonerated by the European Council, and continues to beef up its presence on the island with more settlers (some 30,000 arrived in the last year alone). It’s entirely possible that Turkey will eventually recognise two states in Cyprus, my Turkish Cypriot acquaintance told me: one state in the north, the other in the south. Perhaps this will be the final solution to the Cyprus problem.

Well said dont you think? something all Cypriots should really take into account as a real possiblity as time lapses.

[cannedmoose]

Where's this quote from VP? Interesting figure of the number of settlers... if that's true it's rather disturbing...

[Viewpoint]

Its from the Cyprus Mail yesterday edition, under opinion title Comment - Walking in the dark
By Nicos Rolandis

[cannedmoose]

Its from the Cyprus Mail yesterday edition, under opinion title Comment - Walking in the dark
By Nicos Rolandis

K, thanks mate

[Bananiot]

Another traitor my friend ...

Anyway, back to the topic, what does the future hold ... I think the worse case scenario would be if Turkey is not accessed to the EU and the Cyprob is still unsolved. I am afraid this is a live possibility, because of the rejectionist President we have and the total support he gets from AKEL. I feel the reason of his behaviour is his refusal to share power with the TC community. He wants the TC's to be a minority, albeit a protected one with all individual rights guaranteed. This is ok, but unfortunately for all of us the other side and the international organisations have already dismissed this as an option. Cyprus is in Europe and if we can veto the rest of Europe it sounds unrealistic that the 18% cannot be politically equal to us as a community in a bizonal, bicommunal, federal, common country.

[-mikkie2-]

Bananiot,

The issue is not political equality of the 18% against the 82%. The issue is the guarantee of the individuals right to live and settle anywhere within their country. Having permanent restrictions on freedom of movement in Cyprus for Cypriots whilst allowing all other EU citizens to not have such restrictions goes against all that the EU stands for.

I personally do not accept a botched solution for the sake of unity. I am still of the opinion that we have to see what happens at the next round of negotiations to establish 'true intentions'.

[brother]

Now that makes sense to everyone while i bet most tc will agree to that most gc will line up to kill it.

[garbitsch]

Bananiot,

The issue is not political equality of the 18% against the 82%. The issue is the guarantee of the individuals right to live and settle anywhere within their country. Having permanent restrictions on freedom of movement in Cyprus for Cypriots whilst allowing all other EU citizens to not have such restrictions goes against all that the EU stands for.

I personally do not accept a botched solution for the sake of unity. I am still of the opinion that we have to see what happens at the next round of negotiations to establish 'true intentions'.

IF this is the "real" problem, then it can be easily resolved. But obviously, the major problem is Tpap does not want to see Turkish Cypriots as the equal partners of G.Cs. As Bananiot said, the world has already abolished the option of giving Cyprus under GC control and granting minority rights to T.Cs. I also agree with your concern about the restrictions granted on the freedom of settlement of G.Cs. Well, I still believe in temporary derrogations, since the growing concern among T.Cs that they cannot live with G.Cs should be taken into consideration. Gradual -but not sudden- increase in the number of G.Cs. to the Northern areas will benefit both sides. Don't you agree?

[insan]

Having permanent restrictions on freedom of movement in Cyprus for Cypriots whilst allowing all other EU citizens to not have such restrictions goes against all that the EU stands for.

As long as I remember, there is a provision in Annan Plan which states, "2/3 majority of TC constituent state shall comprise of Turkish speaking people."

This provision of the plan automatically gives the right to TC constituent state to restrict freedom of movement, in case the non-Turkish speaking people of North has reached 2/3.

In my opinion, due to small size of TCCS; this is a justifiable provision and is a must. Otherwise, in 15 or 20 years time, TC community will become a tiny minority among GCs and foreigners in its own constituent state.

Imagine a TCCS that compose of 20 TC + 25 GC + 20(naturalized) Foreigner.

Anyhow, if some day the population of Cyprus exceeds 1.3 million, most probably Cyprus will become a unliveable place because of the insufficient water resources and severage system. Cypriots will become one of the worst smelling society in the world. The shits of 1.3 million Cypriots together with 2 million tourists will fill all the beach waters.

[Main_Source]

In my opinion, due to small size of TCCS; this is a justifiable provision and is a must. Otherwise, in 15 or 20 years time, TC community will become a tiny minority among GCs and foreigners in its own constituent state.[quote/]

So what your scared of Insan is a natural outcome?