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[Big Al]

Fuck all, a few thousand dead on either side, if and thats a BIG IF the RoC makes any territorial gains it will be taken back within a matter of a few hours by Turkey once their reinforcements arrive. Greece or any other nation will be reluctant to enter the conflict as the RoC will be seen as the agressor. Turkey also cannot take more territory than what constitutes the TRNC at the moment as it will be seen as an agressor rather than a protector if it moves into the RoC territory. And in 40 years we will have many more forum like this one with members discussing a "solution to the cyprus forum". Also, in 40 years we will still have morons like yourself trying to convince GC's to have one more shot at the turks to "liberate" cyprus.

[Bananiot]

All the wars between Greece and Turkey were started by Greece (except for the independence struggle in 1821). Am I a traitor for pointing to this fact GR?

[Get Real!]

All the wars between Greece and Turkey were started by Greece (except for the independence struggle in 1821). Am I a traitor for pointing to this fact GR?

Welcome back Bananiot.

I haven't researched what you allege and probably never will given that I'm Cypriot and therefore not interested, so I'll let the Greek members answer your question.

[Piratis]

The RoC will not "attack the TCs".

First of all, liberating our country is called defending our country and sovereignty from a foreign invador.
Secondly, the one we would fight would be the Turkish army, and those who assist them to occupy our lands. Not the general TC population who are citizens of our country.

In any case we are not stupid to want a one-on-one fight with Turkey which is 120 times bigger. We can harm Turkey in many other ways much more effectively, and in my opinion we can do more in that direction than we are doing now.

Turkey is a torn country with Turks VS Kurds, and Secularists VS Islamists. By affecting the EU policies along with our similarly minded partners, and also by funding the PKK, it would be quite feasible to brake Turkey down first economically and then territorially, at which point a combined action of Cyprus and Greece against Turkey could be taken that would liberate Cyprus from the Turkish troops and help to bring the by then weakened Turkey under the control of EU.

In fact thats possibly the only way that Turkey can enter the EU. Germany and France will never accept a powerful Turkey with a population bigger than theirs (and therefore more say) in the EU. But a weakened Turkey that would be broken up in two, would be much easier for EU to digest, and that would be better for EU, and for Kurds, and also for the Turks in the long run.

[Bananiot]

You are not Burmese either. I suppose you are not interested in the tragic death of thousands of Burmese people too.

[Piratis]

All the wars between Greece and Turkey were started by Greece (except for the independence struggle in 1821). Am I a traitor for pointing to this fact GR?

The 1821 war was also started by Greeks, when they fought against the Turks for the liberation of their lands. Darn Greeks! They should have just remained Turkish slaves and let the Turks rule the Greek lands!

But what you forget is that the wars between Greeks and Turks were started by the Turks. We are not the ones who invaded Mongolia to harm them. They are the ones who came to our area and started to kill us and steal the cities we created. All the Greeks did was to try to liberate their own lands.

[Get Real!]

Fuck all, a few thousand dead on either side,

That's strange... I don't see any options in your poll suggesting... "Fuck all, a few thousand dead on either side" Are you changing the poll options now?

if and thats a BIG IF the RoC makes any territorial gains it will be taken back within a matter of a few hours by Turkey once their reinforcements arrive.

And if reinforcements do not, or are not permitted to arrive what then?

Greece or any other nation will be reluctant to enter the conflict as the RoC will be seen as the agressor.

Are you aware what UN resolutions are calling for and who is regarded the aggressor?

Turkey also cannot take more territory than what constitutes the TRNC at the moment as it will be seen as an agressor rather than a protector if it moves into the RoC territory. And in 40 years we will have many more forum like this one with members discussing a "solution to the cyprus forum". Also, in 40 years we will still have morons like yourself trying to convince GC's to have one more shot at the turks to "liberate" cyprus.

You are obviously clueless about the present condition yet you want to predict the future?

[Big Al]

The RoC will not "attack the TCs".

First of all, liberating our country is called defending our country and sovereignty from a foreign invador.
Secondly, the one we would fight would be the Turkish army, and those who assist them to occupy our lands. Not the general TC population who are citizens of our country.

In any case we are not stupid to want a one-on-one fight with Turkey which is 120 times bigger. We can harm Turkey in many other ways much more effectively, and in my opinion we can do more in that direction than we are doing now.

Turkey is a torn country with Turks VS Kurds, and Secularists VS Islamists. By affecting the EU policies along with our similarly minded partners, and also by funding the PKK, it would be quite feasible to brake Turkey down first economically and then territorially, at which point a combined action of Cyprus and Greece against Turkey could be taken that would liberate Cyprus from the Turkish troops and help to bring the by then weakened Turkey under the control of EU.

In fact thats possibly the only way that Turkey can enter the EU. Germany and France will never accept a powerful Turkey with a population bigger than theirs (and therefore more say) in the EU. But a weakened Turkey that would be broken up in two, would be much easier for EU to digest, and that would be better for EU, and for Kurds, and also for the Turks in the long run.

Piratis,
Understand this, Turkey would relinquish EU entry rather than leave TC's defenseless in Cyprus. In addition, Cyprus can try and affect EU policies as much as it wants, Turkey will walk away from the negotiations once it is being asked to do things other EU entrants havent been asked to do. How long has GC been pushing to allow its ships into Turkish ports each time Turkey says...fuck off.. your powers of persuasion are no where near what you think they are. The EU and Turkey is never going to happen, besides by the time the EU is ready to let Turkey in it will be no more than a ineffective beauratic group of nations bickering amongst themselves with no influence throughout the world. We have already seen the economies of EU nations slowing...watch out for a long, drawn out EU reccession my friend.

[Big Al]

Fuck all, a few thousand dead on either side,

That's strange... I don't see any options in your poll suggesting... "Fuck all, a few thousand dead on either side" Are you changing the poll options now?

if and thats a BIG IF the RoC makes any territorial gains it will be taken back within a matter of a few hours by Turkey once their reinforcements arrive.

And if reinforcements do not, or are not permitted to arrive what then?

Greece or any other nation will be reluctant to enter the conflict as the RoC will be seen as the agressor.

Are you aware what UN resolutions are calling for and who is regarded the aggressor?

GR, if you have an ounce of manhood in you or even one bollock then go and fire the first shot at the Turks otherwise your talk is just noise. You suffer seriously from dillusions of grandure and will be the first crying when you see Turkish paratroopers landing in cyprus again. Be quiet and stop embarassing yourself.

Turkey also cannot take more territory than what constitutes the TRNC at the moment as it will be seen as an agressor rather than a protector if it moves into the RoC territory. And in 40 years we will have many more forum like this one with members discussing a "solution to the cyprus forum". Also, in 40 years we will still have morons like yourself trying to convince GC's to have one more shot at the turks to "liberate" cyprus.

You are obviously clueless about the present condition yet you want to predict the future?

[Get Real!]

You are not Burmese either. I suppose you are not interested in the tragic death of thousands of Burmese people too.

Burma? I may well be tempted in the right thread.