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[DT.]

As the law makes clear, you can apply for compensation now, apply for an exchange of property now, or apply for restitution of your property now. With three options, there doesn't have to be an equal amount of property in the North and South.

Alternatively, you can wait for a full political solution and accept what will be negotiated.

We don't have to accept anything. Free market will sort out any distorted anomalies the solution will carry.

[humanist]

What does one say to the coment aboove. Who the hell do you think you are? You bring in guns, kill people take property and then you have the audacity to say apply because this is the law. The law of what???

[DT.]

What does one say to the coment aboove. Who the hell do you think you are? You bring in guns, kill people take property and then you have the audacity to say apply because this is the law. The law of what???

Talat & Denktash code amongst thieves

[humanist]

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[Jerry]

As the law makes clear, you can apply for compensation now, apply for an exchange of property now, or apply for restitution of your property now. With three options, there doesn't have to be an equal amount of property in the North and South.

Alternatively, you can wait for a full political solution and accept what will be negotiated.

Yes apply now and wait 10 years, it's a bloody joke. I approached your commission last year, it's run by incompetent fools. When I complained to the ECHR about them the court sent me application forms to apply directly to them. I urge all GCs to make enquiries to the commission, flood the buggers with applications and we will see how effetive a remedy they are. You do not have to accept what they offer. Their is address is:-

Immovable Properties Commission
Ataturk Meydansi
Mahkemeler Karsisi
Posta Yani
Lefkosa
Mersin 10
Turkey


When you have been messed around by these idiots then write to the ECHR at:-

European Court of Human Rights
Council of Europe
67075 Strasbourg-Cedex. France

And tell them you can't wait 10 years.

[humanist]

sorry Jerry, but I will not apply to get what is rightly mine back from some nazi in a suit and furthermore it is disgraceful to my TC compatriots to apply to a comission where the address is Mersin 10 Turkey. I actually care for those TC's who hate the current situation as much as I do and want unification of our country.

[observer]

What does one say to the coment aboove. Who the hell do you think you are? You bring in guns, kill people take property and then you have the audacity to say apply because this is the law. The law of what???

LAW 67/2005

LAW FOR THE COMPENSATION, EXCHANGE AND RESTITUTION OF IMMOVABLE PROPERTIES WHICH ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF SUB-PARAGRAPH (B) OF PARAGRAPH 1 OF ARTICLE 159 OF THE CONSTITUTION

You can find it here:
http://www.mahkemeler.net/mahkeme-web-t ... 005ing.doc

[observer]

sorry Jerry, but I will not apply to get what is rightly mine back from some nazi in a suit and furthermore it is disgraceful to my TC compatriots to apply to a comission where the address is Mersin 10 Turkey. I actually care for those TC's who hate the current situation as much as I do and want unification of our country.

As you know, it is the RoC authorities who block any mail coming directly to TRNC (which I actually think disgraceful as it is the TCs who are inconvenienced).

But there is no need to mail it. Just walk into the TRNC and contact a lawyer in person who will make your applicaton for you. The remedies are compensation, exchange or RESTITUTION.

[observer]

Why don't they have a website? Why do applications have to be made in Turkish when most applicants speak Greek or English. Why isn't the "TRNC" office in London staffed by competent people who can give a straight answer to a straight question. Why does it take so long for applications to be determined.

WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO ASK FOR MY STOLEN PROPERTY TO BE RETURNED TO ME BY A "CIVILISED" COUNTRY THAT WANTS TO JOIN THE EU.

I can understand your frustration, but I think that you are being a little unreasonable.

I don't know what your questions were, but when it comes to law, when have you ever known a lawyer give a definitive answer, especially on a new and relatively untried law. They can't. The best they can (or ever will) give is an opinion.

Why does it take so long? The law always takes a long time, but in this case the applicant has to prove ownership, and I imagine that the claim has to be verified without doubt. Can you imagine the extra layer to the Cyprus problem if someone else turns up with a claim later. Secondly, if compensation or exchange is involved, the Court is treading untried ground. I imagine that it will speed up once it has some precedents to work on. If restoration is demanded, then the Courts have to consider the current users.

Given the very small number of TCs who have applied for restoration of their properties in the South, the procedures seem to take an equally long time in the GC Courts.

[Kikapu]

sorry Jerry, but I will not apply to get what is rightly mine back from some nazi in a suit and furthermore it is disgraceful to my TC compatriots to apply to a comission where the address is Mersin 10 Turkey. I actually care for those TC's who hate the current situation as much as I do and want unification of our country.

As you know, it is the RoC authorities who block any mail coming directly to TRNC (which I actually think disgraceful as it is the TCs who are inconvenienced).

But there is no need to mail it. Just walk into the TRNC and contact a lawyer in person who will make your applicaton for you. The remedies are compensation, exchange or RESTITUTION.

The remedies are compensation, exchange or RESTITUTION.

Observer, who gets to decide which of the three remedies are granted. Is it the choice of the legal owner (the applicant) or is it the choice of the "illegal owner" (person or "state"). Who has more priority.? For example, if the legal owner wants his property back and is not interested in the other remaining two options, then what happens.?? Who's rights are more protected, the legal owner or the "illegal owner".?

I had once worked out how long it would take if at least 50,000 applications were made at the same time to the "property commission" and at the rate of about 2 cases resolved per month, it would take about 2,083 years, which would be around the year 4,091 AD before the last applicant has had their case closed.

This did not mean that all the cases would have ended by year 4,091 AD however, since great numbers would be waiting on their appeals to be heard for not getting their first of the three choices that were offered to them.

What do you think Observer. Do you think it is a good remedy for the property issue or is it just a "fly by night idea" that had no intention in solving the property problem at all but buy some time instead.??