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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 16, 2008 8:27 pm

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yes kikapu , you can't get it .
This is the one of the strange part of the Cyprus. Cyprus full up with confuse and amazings .............
may be he is sharing same KADER with you.


Halil,

I don't have any KADER to share, but I'm sure this man has enough of his own and does not need to hear others problems.

Homelessness is not unique to any one place you know. In fact, I see very few homeless in Europe. In my home city of San Francisco, there are about 6,000 homeless at any given time sleeping in cardboard boxes in doorways and under freeways. This is in a country who is spending $3 BILLION Dollars a WEEK in the two wars we are fighting in the Middle East. Damn shameful to have so many in one city alone to have this kinds of homeless problems. It will get worse as the housing market goes further into the toilet. Anyway, I hope this poor person will get some help soon.

Halil, you mentioned yesterday that you are on your way to the USA soon. Which states are you going to and how long will you be staying.?? If you are going anywhere to the Western parts of the USA, I can give you lots of tips if you want in what to see and do. Specially for California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada to mention a few.

Have a nice trip Halil.


Excuses excuses, seeing its in the "RoC2 lots of excuses, the same situation in the TRNC and this traitor would be the first to put the knife in, bloody hypocrite.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri May 16, 2008 9:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
yes kikapu , you can't get it .
This is the one of the strange part of the Cyprus. Cyprus full up with confuse and amazings .............
may be he is sharing same KADER with you.


Halil,

I don't have any KADER to share, but I'm sure this man has enough of his own and does not need to hear others problems.

Homelessness is not unique to any one place you know. In fact, I see very few homeless in Europe. In my home city of San Francisco, there are about 6,000 homeless at any given time sleeping in cardboard boxes in doorways and under freeways. This is in a country who is spending $3 BILLION Dollars a WEEK in the two wars we are fighting in the Middle East. Damn shameful to have so many in one city alone to have this kinds of homeless problems. It will get worse as the housing market goes further into the toilet. Anyway, I hope this poor person will get some help soon.

Halil, you mentioned yesterday that you are on your way to the USA soon. Which states are you going to and how long will you be staying.?? If you are going anywhere to the Western parts of the USA, I can give you lots of tips if you want in what to see and do. Specially for California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada to mention a few.

Have a nice trip Halil.


Excuses excuses, seeing its in the "RoC2 lots of excuses, the same situation in the TRNC and this traitor would be the first to put the knife in, bloody hypocrite.


I think the effects of your depression medication is wearing out, so perhaps it is time for the next dosage my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".

Do you think there are no GC's homeless in the RoC also, or TC's in the "TRNC".??

In any case, you must be hallucinating again, because I have not made any mention of homeless in the "TRNC", unless of course you are talking about the 200,000 made homeless to create the "TRNC".

Is that what you are talking about my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 16, 2008 10:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
halil wrote:
yes kikapu , you can't get it .
This is the one of the strange part of the Cyprus. Cyprus full up with confuse and amazings .............
may be he is sharing same KADER with you.


Halil,

I don't have any KADER to share, but I'm sure this man has enough of his own and does not need to hear others problems.

Homelessness is not unique to any one place you know. In fact, I see very few homeless in Europe. In my home city of San Francisco, there are about 6,000 homeless at any given time sleeping in cardboard boxes in doorways and under freeways. This is in a country who is spending $3 BILLION Dollars a WEEK in the two wars we are fighting in the Middle East. Damn shameful to have so many in one city alone to have this kinds of homeless problems. It will get worse as the housing market goes further into the toilet. Anyway, I hope this poor person will get some help soon.

Halil, you mentioned yesterday that you are on your way to the USA soon. Which states are you going to and how long will you be staying.?? If you are going anywhere to the Western parts of the USA, I can give you lots of tips if you want in what to see and do. Specially for California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada to mention a few.

Have a nice trip Halil.


Excuses excuses, seeing its in the "RoC2 lots of excuses, the same situation in the TRNC and this traitor would be the first to put the knife in, bloody hypocrite.


I think the effects of your depression medication is wearing out, so perhaps it is time for the next dosage my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".

Do you think there are no GC's homeless in the RoC also, or TC's in the "TRNC".??

In any case, you must be hallucinating again, because I have not made any mention of homeless in the "TRNC", unless of course you are talking about the 200,000 made homeless to create the "TRNC".

Is that what you are talking about my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".


"Brutus" you traitor your attitude towards the TRNC and running it down at every opportunity yet raising or excusing whatever the GCs and the "RoC" is yet again a clear indication of your biased.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri May 16, 2008 11:07 pm

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Excuses excuses, seeing its in the "RoC2 lots of excuses, the same situation in the TRNC and this traitor would be the first to put the knife in, bloody hypocrite.


I think the effects of your depression medication is wearing out, so perhaps it is time for the next dosage my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".

Do you think there are no GC's homeless in the RoC also, or TC's in the "TRNC".??

In any case, you must be hallucinating again, because I have not made any mention of homeless in the "TRNC", unless of course you are talking about the 200,000 made homeless to create the "TRNC".

Is that what you are talking about my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".


"Brutus" you traitor your attitude towards the TRNC and running it down at every opportunity yet raising or excusing whatever the GCs and the "RoC" is yet again a clear indication of your biased.


Then stop acting like a True Asshole and stop leading me on to be abusive to you. When you set the stage up, don't be surprised with the show you are going to get. It's very simple really. You egg someone on, you are going to get egg all over your face.
Simple enough for you.?

I care for all Cypriots, TC or GC, makes no difference to me. What I cant stand is Fascist people like you who care only for themselves, but pretend to care for the whole TC community. Talk about hypocrite. You get pissed off because you can't get pass me with your propaganda and those who are paying you to spread your hate poison around are upset with you, because you are not performing. Why don't you show your compassionate side for a change. Oh, I forgot, that's not what you get paid to do, to be a HUMAN BEING.

Then again, what the hell do you know about anything, unless it says PARTITION.
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Postby bilako22 » Sat May 17, 2008 12:12 am

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Excuses excuses, seeing its in the "RoC2 lots of excuses, the same situation in the TRNC and this traitor would be the first to put the knife in, bloody hypocrite.


I think the effects of your depression medication is wearing out, so perhaps it is time for the next dosage my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".

Do you think there are no GC's homeless in the RoC also, or TC's in the "TRNC".??

In any case, you must be hallucinating again, because I have not made any mention of homeless in the "TRNC", unless of course you are talking about the 200,000 made homeless to create the "TRNC".

Is that what you are talking about my little Fascist terrorist "son of a Hitler".


"Brutus" you traitor your attitude towards the TRNC and running it down at every opportunity yet raising or excusing whatever the GCs and the "RoC" is yet again a clear indication of your biased.


Then stop acting like a True Asshole and stop leading me on to be abusive to you. When you set the stage up, don't be surprised with the show you are going to get. It's very simple really. You egg someone on, you are going to get egg all over your face.
Simple enough for you.?

I care for all Cypriots, TC or GC, makes no difference to me. What I cant stand is Fascist people like you who care only for themselves, but pretend to care for the whole TC community. Talk about hypocrite. You get pissed off because you can't get pass me with your propaganda and those who are paying you to spread your hate poison around are upset with you, because you are not performing. Why don't you show your compassionate side for a change. Oh, I forgot, that's not what you get paid to do, to be a HUMAN BEING.

Then again, what the hell do you know about anything, unless it says PARTITION.


Nobody forces you to be abusive , it is in your nature. You cannot accept that the views of VP represents the majority of TCs and yours just represents the few that failed to benefit from the spoils of war.
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Postby bilako22 » Sat May 17, 2008 12:18 am

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Just as I suspected Professor .You are certainly not using my logic , and your definition of Haram does not fit what has happened in the TRNC.It is impossible to separate the TCs who merely used land to live o n and those that sold land on to others. Surely , there cannot be a any difference between those that use stolen land such as an orchard to earn an income and those that sell a piece of stolen land to raise capital. Is it not haram in both instances? Your definition of haram makes all the people of the TRNc guilty. Your definition of temporary is laughable . A period of 38 years is not temporary.
My views are certainly different to yours. Your logic is corrupted .There are , as I have said , many TCs living abroad who are bitter about the loss of their land in the South and are blaming the TRNc authorities for not providing them ,as compensation GC ,land .Some of these people have virtually converted to the other side . They can normally be identified by their very pro Gc one-sided comments .


Bilako22,

You made an accusation of me failing in my quest to benefit from the spoils of war from stolen GC property in the north, and that was the reason as to why my views on Cyprus are the way they are. I have answered your question and no where in my answer suggests what you have accused me of. Then I reversed the question to you, using your logic and asked you if you had benefited from the spoils of war since your views are different than mine, and you did not answer me, therefore, one can conclude from your logic, that if one has enjoyed from the spoils of war, they have one view of the "TRNC" and those who have not, have another view of the the "TRNC". Is this what you believe, and if so, then will you confirm to us that you have benefited from the spoils of war since your views are different than mine and I have not benefited from the spoils of war.

Once again you are making a mistake and will fall into your own trap by saying, that those who did not benefit from the spoils of war, are now seeing things from the point of the GC view.!!

Does that then mean, that if one sees from the TC point of view, that they must have benefited from the spoils of war.!!

Learn to be careful in what you accuse others of, because in the end, your accusations will tell more about yourself than others in what they may or may not have committed.

Answer my question first before you want to move onto the "Haram" issues.


You have not answered my question . Ma question and your ambiguous answer leads to many other questions.Did your mother or father attempt to receive compensated land or not? Where do they live . Where do you live . What has happened to your land in the South?Have you been to the TRNC recently ? Have you done army service?
I suspect your logic is as sound as your definitions of haram and temporary.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 17, 2008 12:22 am

...and yours just represents the few that failed to benefit from the spoils of war.


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Postby kurupetos » Sat May 17, 2008 12:37 am

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...and yours just represents the few that failed to benefit from the spoils of war.


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Exactly! Why bother to discuss with such people? :x I quit.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat May 17, 2008 12:44 am

...but you are not communicating to just them. there is the record, and there are the readers who will have to decide for themselves, many, most, who do not write posts....

there is Cyprus, even if it includes voices, unlike the ones you know, who reveer it being torn in two.
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Postby bilako22 » Sat May 17, 2008 1:08 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...but you are not communicating to just them. there is the record, and there are the readers who will have to decide for themselves, many, most, who do not write posts....

there is Cyprus, even if it includes voices, unlike the ones you know, who reveer it being torn in two.


I would have thought that to most readers it is pretty obvious that the GC and Tc people of Cyprus need to be kept separate for their own good . it should also be pointed out the international community came to a fair and just solution in 2004 that the Greeks rejected.
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