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bilako22

Just as I suspected Professor .You are certainly not using my logic , and your definition of Haram does not fit what has happened in the TRNC.It is impossible to separate the TCs who merely used land to live o n and those that sold land on to others. Surely , there cannot be a any difference between those that use stolen land such as an orchard to earn an income and those that sell a piece of stolen land to raise capital. Is it not haram in both instances? Your definition of haram makes all the people of the TRNc guilty. Your definition of temporary is laughable . A period of 38 years is not temporary.
My views are certainly different to yours. Your logic is corrupted .There are , as I have said , many TCs living abroad who are bitter about the loss of their land in the South and are blaming the TRNc authorities for not providing them ,as compensation GC ,land .Some of these people have virtually converted to the other side . They can normally be identified by their very pro Gc one-sided comments .

You have hit the nail on the head, judge and jury attitudes reveal biased and one sided vision, obviously some traitors will have switched sides because they did not get what they want, or are known traitors selling their services who can never enter the TRNC otherwise they will arrested for their past actions.

The definition of "Treason"...

Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

If the cap fits wear it,

[Get Real!]

bilako22

Just as I suspected Professor .You are certainly not using my logic , and your definition of Haram does not fit what has happened in the TRNC.It is impossible to separate the TCs who merely used land to live o n and those that sold land on to others. Surely , there cannot be a any difference between those that use stolen land such as an orchard to earn an income and those that sell a piece of stolen land to raise capital. Is it not haram in both instances? Your definition of haram makes all the people of the TRNc guilty. Your definition of temporary is laughable . A period of 38 years is not temporary.
My views are certainly different to yours. Your logic is corrupted .There are , as I have said , many TCs living abroad who are bitter about the loss of their land in the South and are blaming the TRNc authorities for not providing them ,as compensation GC ,land .Some of these people have virtually converted to the other side . They can normally be identified by their very pro Gc one-sided comments .

You have hit the nail on the head, judge and jury attitudes reveal biased and one sided vision, obviously some traitors will have switched sides because they did not get what they want, or are known traitors selling their services who can never enter the TRNC otherwise they will arrested for their past actions.

The definition of "Treason"...

Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

If the cap fits wear it,

I just love your ever-changing "principles"...

[Kikapu]

Just as I suspected Professor .You are certainly not using my logic , and your definition of Haram does not fit what has happened in the TRNC.It is impossible to separate the TCs who merely used land to live o n and those that sold land on to others. Surely , there cannot be a any difference between those that use stolen land such as an orchard to earn an income and those that sell a piece of stolen land to raise capital. Is it not haram in both instances? Your definition of haram makes all the people of the TRNc guilty. Your definition of temporary is laughable . A period of 38 years is not temporary.
My views are certainly different to yours. Your logic is corrupted .There are , as I have said , many TCs living abroad who are bitter about the loss of their land in the South and are blaming the TRNc authorities for not providing them ,as compensation GC ,land .Some of these people have virtually converted to the other side . They can normally be identified by their very pro Gc one-sided comments .

Bilako22,

You made an accusation of me failing in my quest to benefit from the spoils of war from stolen GC property in the north, and that was the reason as to why my views on Cyprus are the way they are. I have answered your question and no where in my answer suggests what you have accused me of. Then I reversed the question to you, using your logic and asked you if you had benefited from the spoils of war since your views are different than mine, and you did not answer me, therefore, one can conclude from your logic, that if one has enjoyed from the spoils of war, they have one view of the "TRNC" and those who have not, have another view of the the "TRNC". Is this what you believe, and if so, then will you confirm to us that you have benefited from the spoils of war since your views are different than mine and I have not benefited from the spoils of war.

Once again you are making a mistake and will fall into your own trap by saying, that those who did not benefit from the spoils of war, are now seeing things from the point of the GC view.!!

Does that then mean, that if one sees from the TC point of view, that they must have benefited from the spoils of war.!!

Learn to be careful in what you accuse others of, because in the end, your accusations will tell more about yourself than others in what they may or may not have committed.

Answer my question first before you want to move onto the "Haram" issues.

[Kikapu]

Just like you I'm not a religious man, but if you said to me "God Bless you", then I will take it and thank you for it.!!

As an alternative for Atheists, may I suggest the expression… “May unkie GR bless you!” ?

I'm not prejudice GR, therefore I'll accept it.

[halil]

Limassol man faces life on the streets
By Anna Hassapi

A REPATRIATED Turkish Cypriot man Ismael Taner Seifi is facing homelessness for the second time in a year because he lacks the funds to pay rent.

Unable to find work, Seifi has been depending on a rent allowance of €170 from Social Services, but the temporary accommodation where he is presently staying is closing and he is faced with finding himself homeless once again on the streets of Limassol.

“I have tried everywhere, Social Services, District Administration, the previous Interior Minister. No-one could help me. If I end up homeless again, I will go on a hunger strike so people can see that there is a homelessness problem in Cyprus,” Seifi told the Cyprus Mail.

Seifi returned to Limassol from the UK in 2007 and initially got state housing at Arnaout Street in Limassol’s Turkish Quarter. “I was then made to leave that house by the authorities as they put someone else there. At that point I was homeless. For about a month I was sleeping on benches at the seafront,” he said.

In the UK Seifi was working as a taxi driver and tried to find similar work in Cyprus, but with no success. “I have chronic bronchitis and I get tired easily. The doctor told me I can only do light work, which includes driving a taxi. I went to the Labour Services and asked for a job, but they never got back to me.”

Seifi finally found a room at a low cost hotel in Limassol and Social Services offered to pay a monthly rent allowance of €170 for him to stay there. However, the hotel recently informed its occupants that it will be closing and that they need to vacate by the end of May. Since then, he has been searching for a flat, but cannot find anything in the range of €170, which is what Social Services are willing to provide.

“Rent prices have gone up, and I don’t know how anyone can afford them. There is no way I can find a place with these prices. The place I’m staying now is smelly and in a bad condition, but at least I have a bed. I am afraid of being homeless again,” he said.

Seifi does not believe that he is being targeted because of his ethnic origin. “It is not because I’m Turkish Cypriot. There are Greek Cypriots who are homeless because they have no money. The situation does not just affect me - there are many like me. There is one specific Greek Cypriot now living on benches at Heroes Square in Limassol.”

Social Services said yesterday that Seifi receives a monthly allowance of €560, which includes rent and basic needs. Social Services officers said that the rent allowance of €170 cannot be increased.

According to Seifi, Social Services offered to place him in an Old People’s Home, which disturbed the 57-year-old man. “I can clean myself and can cook for myself - I am not going to an Old People’s Home at this age. All I want is a place to stay so I can live like a human being.”




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008

[Kikapu]

You have hit the nail on the head, judge and jury attitudes reveal biased and one sided vision, obviously some traitors will have switched sides because they did not get what they want, or are known traitors selling their services who can never enter the TRNC otherwise they will arrested for their past actions.

How are you doing with your depression my little Facscist terrorist "son of a Hitler".

Give it time and the medication will help you.

Once again, using bilako22's logic and yours, then your sweet mother must be a traitor, because she too has land in the south, all 100 Donums and has not received anything in "exchange" in the north. Did you put her in jail yet for refusing to accept stolen GC property in the north.?? And talking about jails, are you supplied with Internet in the jail, because that's where you must be right now, or should be anyway for all the violations on Human Rights that you personally commit each and every day.

Don't worry about me as to where I can and cannot go in Cyprus. Just for your information, I can go anyplace I damn wish to go, and it is only a matter of making the choice to do it or not, so save your accusations and threats before you get yourself all tangled up in your own web that you weave for others to fall into.

[Kikapu]

Limassol man faces life on the streets
By Anna Hassapi

A REPATRIATED Turkish Cypriot man Ismael Taner Seifi is facing homelessness for the second time in a year because he lacks the funds to pay rent.

Unable to find work, Seifi has been depending on a rent allowance of €170 from Social Services, but the temporary accommodation where he is presently staying is closing and he is faced with finding himself homeless once again on the streets of Limassol.

“I have tried everywhere, Social Services, District Administration, the previous Interior Minister. No-one could help me. If I end up homeless again, I will go on a hunger strike so people can see that there is a homelessness problem in Cyprus,” Seifi told the Cyprus Mail.

Seifi returned to Limassol from the UK in 2007 and initially got state housing at Arnaout Street in Limassol’s Turkish Quarter. “I was then made to leave that house by the authorities as they put someone else there. At that point I was homeless. For about a month I was sleeping on benches at the seafront,” he said.

In the UK Seifi was working as a taxi driver and tried to find similar work in Cyprus, but with no success. “I have chronic bronchitis and I get tired easily. The doctor told me I can only do light work, which includes driving a taxi. I went to the Labour Services and asked for a job, but they never got back to me.”

Seifi finally found a room at a low cost hotel in Limassol and Social Services offered to pay a monthly rent allowance of €170 for him to stay there. However, the hotel recently informed its occupants that it will be closing and that they need to vacate by the end of May. Since then, he has been searching for a flat, but cannot find anything in the range of €170, which is what Social Services are willing to provide.

“Rent prices have gone up, and I don’t know how anyone can afford them. There is no way I can find a place with these prices. The place I’m staying now is smelly and in a bad condition, but at least I have a bed. I am afraid of being homeless again,” he said.

Seifi does not believe that he is being targeted because of his ethnic origin. “It is not because I’m Turkish Cypriot. There are Greek Cypriots who are homeless because they have no money. The situation does not just affect me - there are many like me. There is one specific Greek Cypriot now living on benches at Heroes Square in Limassol.”

Social Services said yesterday that Seifi receives a monthly allowance of €560, which includes rent and basic needs. Social Services officers said that the rent allowance of €170 cannot be increased.

According to Seifi, Social Services offered to place him in an Old People’s Home, which disturbed the 57-year-old man. “I can clean myself and can cook for myself - I am not going to an Old People’s Home at this age. All I want is a place to stay so I can live like a human being.”




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008

Isn't that amazing, that this man having such hardship in the RoC and still he is staying in the RoC and not going to go the "TRNC".

Why is that.??

Perhaps he is on Fascist terrorist VP's most wanted list for treason and will be arrested upon going to the north.

Still, he will have a bed and three meals a day even if that was the case.

I don't get it.!!

[halil]

Limassol man faces life on the streets
By Anna Hassapi

A REPATRIATED Turkish Cypriot man Ismael Taner Seifi is facing homelessness for the second time in a year because he lacks the funds to pay rent.

Unable to find work, Seifi has been depending on a rent allowance of €170 from Social Services, but the temporary accommodation where he is presently staying is closing and he is faced with finding himself homeless once again on the streets of Limassol.

“I have tried everywhere, Social Services, District Administration, the previous Interior Minister. No-one could help me. If I end up homeless again, I will go on a hunger strike so people can see that there is a homelessness problem in Cyprus,” Seifi told the Cyprus Mail.

Seifi returned to Limassol from the UK in 2007 and initially got state housing at Arnaout Street in Limassol’s Turkish Quarter. “I was then made to leave that house by the authorities as they put someone else there. At that point I was homeless. For about a month I was sleeping on benches at the seafront,” he said.

In the UK Seifi was working as a taxi driver and tried to find similar work in Cyprus, but with no success. “I have chronic bronchitis and I get tired easily. The doctor told me I can only do light work, which includes driving a taxi. I went to the Labour Services and asked for a job, but they never got back to me.”

Seifi finally found a room at a low cost hotel in Limassol and Social Services offered to pay a monthly rent allowance of €170 for him to stay there. However, the hotel recently informed its occupants that it will be closing and that they need to vacate by the end of May. Since then, he has been searching for a flat, but cannot find anything in the range of €170, which is what Social Services are willing to provide.

“Rent prices have gone up, and I don’t know how anyone can afford them. There is no way I can find a place with these prices. The place I’m staying now is smelly and in a bad condition, but at least I have a bed. I am afraid of being homeless again,” he said.

Seifi does not believe that he is being targeted because of his ethnic origin. “It is not because I’m Turkish Cypriot. There are Greek Cypriots who are homeless because they have no money. The situation does not just affect me - there are many like me. There is one specific Greek Cypriot now living on benches at Heroes Square in Limassol.”

Social Services said yesterday that Seifi receives a monthly allowance of €560, which includes rent and basic needs. Social Services officers said that the rent allowance of €170 cannot be increased.

According to Seifi, Social Services offered to place him in an Old People’s Home, which disturbed the 57-year-old man. “I can clean myself and can cook for myself - I am not going to an Old People’s Home at this age. All I want is a place to stay so I can live like a human being.”




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008

Isn't that amazing, that this man having such hardship in the RoC and still he is staying in the RoC and not going to go the "TRNC".

Why is that.??

Perhaps he is on Fascist terrorist VP's most wanted list for treason and will be arrested upon going to the north.

Still, he will have a bed and three meals a day even if that was the case.

I don't get it.!!

yes kikapu , you can't get it .
This is the one of the strange part of the Cyprus. Cyprus full up with confuse and amazings .............
may be he is sharing same KADER with you.

[kurupetos]

Limassol man faces life on the streets
By Anna Hassapi

A REPATRIATED Turkish Cypriot man Ismael Taner Seifi is facing homelessness for the second time in a year because he lacks the funds to pay rent.

Unable to find work, Seifi has been depending on a rent allowance of €170 from Social Services, but the temporary accommodation where he is presently staying is closing and he is faced with finding himself homeless once again on the streets of Limassol.

“I have tried everywhere, Social Services, District Administration, the previous Interior Minister. No-one could help me. If I end up homeless again, I will go on a hunger strike so people can see that there is a homelessness problem in Cyprus,” Seifi told the Cyprus Mail.

Seifi returned to Limassol from the UK in 2007 and initially got state housing at Arnaout Street in Limassol’s Turkish Quarter. “I was then made to leave that house by the authorities as they put someone else there. At that point I was homeless. For about a month I was sleeping on benches at the seafront,” he said.

In the UK Seifi was working as a taxi driver and tried to find similar work in Cyprus, but with no success. “I have chronic bronchitis and I get tired easily. The doctor told me I can only do light work, which includes driving a taxi. I went to the Labour Services and asked for a job, but they never got back to me.”

Seifi finally found a room at a low cost hotel in Limassol and Social Services offered to pay a monthly rent allowance of €170 for him to stay there. However, the hotel recently informed its occupants that it will be closing and that they need to vacate by the end of May. Since then, he has been searching for a flat, but cannot find anything in the range of €170, which is what Social Services are willing to provide.

“Rent prices have gone up, and I don’t know how anyone can afford them. There is no way I can find a place with these prices. The place I’m staying now is smelly and in a bad condition, but at least I have a bed. I am afraid of being homeless again,” he said.

Seifi does not believe that he is being targeted because of his ethnic origin. “It is not because I’m Turkish Cypriot. There are Greek Cypriots who are homeless because they have no money. The situation does not just affect me - there are many like me. There is one specific Greek Cypriot now living on benches at Heroes Square in Limassol.”

Social Services said yesterday that Seifi receives a monthly allowance of €560, which includes rent and basic needs. Social Services officers said that the rent allowance of €170 cannot be increased.

According to Seifi, Social Services offered to place him in an Old People’s Home, which disturbed the 57-year-old man. “I can clean myself and can cook for myself - I am not going to an Old People’s Home at this age. All I want is a place to stay so I can live like a human being.”




Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008

Where are Kyrenia's & Famagusta's Greek quarters?

[Kikapu]

yes kikapu , you can't get it .
This is the one of the strange part of the Cyprus. Cyprus full up with confuse and amazings .............
may be he is sharing same KADER with you.

Halil,

I don't have any KADER to share, but I'm sure this man has enough of his own and does not need to hear others problems.

Homelessness is not unique to any one place you know. In fact, I see very few homeless in Europe. In my home city of San Francisco, there are about 6,000 homeless at any given time sleeping in cardboard boxes in doorways and under freeways. This is in a country who is spending $3 BILLION Dollars a WEEK in the two wars we are fighting in the Middle East. Damn shameful to have so many in one city alone to have this kinds of homeless problems. It will get worse as the housing market goes further into the toilet. Anyway, I hope this poor person will get some help soon.

Halil, you mentioned yesterday that you are on your way to the USA soon. Which states are you going to and how long will you be staying.?? If you are going anywhere to the Western parts of the USA, I can give you lots of tips if you want in what to see and do. Specially for California, Arizona, Utah, Nevada to mention a few.

Have a nice trip Halil.