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[Piratis]

My message to GC's is whether you like it or not, you will never be able to get all of what you want, many GC's here say they are making a serious compromise by accepting a "BBF" but they never seem to remember that TC's would be making many compromises from the Zurich agreements .

Care to tell us what compromises TCs would be making from the Zurich agreements? Because so far not only you didn't make any compromises, but you always expect to get more, no our loss.

[repulsewarrior]

Piratis, read "A Just Proposal" and/or my Manifesto please...

[miltiades]

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I have never denied calling anyone fucking stupid , if need be I shall do so again , you however Rambo have used filthy language which I will not bother to post again.
Here is a general synopsis of where we stand:
I stand for one united Cyprus where all Cypriots are equal , where Bir and Kikapu have exactly the same rights that I have. I stand continued political negotiations contacted fairly and within the framework of the UN and the EU . I have never recognised the "TRNC" (every one on this forum is aware of this ) and have referred to Greece and Turkey as the two nations that caused more harm to our island than any other in our history.
I'm a Greek Cypriot but above all a Cypriot , I believe in a peaceful resolution because I'm convinced that not only war would solve absolutely nothing but it will cause immense damage to our island as well as to all combatants, Turkish , Turkish Cypriots , Greeks and Greek Cypriots as well as to all other Cypriots . Following a war , regardless of its duration , peace and seize fire will still have to be put in place. Our economy will suffer beyond our imagination , our people will feel the pain of losing loved ones and the end result could be and would a total disaster for Cyprus.
The RoC , quite sensibly , follows a policy of negotiations , embargoes , lobbying the International community and continually highlighting the plight of the 200 or so thousand displaced Cypriots.
A war against Turkey is not only anathema it is pure lunacy. This does not mean that I approach the matter from a pacifist angle , on the contrary , have never doubted the need of our armed forces to be alert , well trained and well equipped in order to defend any incursions into the RoC free areas from Turkey or from anyone else for that matter. Preparing for defence however is very different to preparing for war against a nation of 70 million with the support of the USA and Brittain.
The suggestion of employing the services of mercenaries is indicative of the pathetic view held by a self regarding rather pompous and rather arrogant individual . He stands for WAR not as a last option but as the ONLY Option , and what do we see , Paphitis in full support calling me a traitor for refusing to take these shit seriously .
May I suggest you wash the shit out of your face , particularly out of your ears and listen to reason . Accusations are cheap , foundations for accusations come a little harder. On this forum I have challenged vigorously the extremists , before you it was Eric the Plonker , naturally you followed . Surely others will come and , having been blessed with the GR treatment !!! I shall be ready .
I SHALL NOT BOTHER TO COPY POST PAST REMOSTRATIONS THAT SHOW WHERE I STAND.[/quote]
I just love your ever-disappearing paragraphs and nonsensical layout of your posts... If you fix it up I promise to read it...

Have you ever considered retiring the pots and pans and becoming a writer? [/quote]

Sorry Rambo for not understanding my badly written English , here are the required corrections , do hope you will now find my post more readable , I brought it down a pitch just for you mate !

[denizaksulu]

Thats ok, but didnt mummy tell you that spitting is unhygienic? If you need to spit again do it in english. Helen my colleague was embarrassed when I asked for a translation

Unfortunately, the English language doesn't have the equivalent of the very unique "ftousou". It's basically a spoken spit that mimics a spit with no saliva or actual spit involved... pretty neat eh?

All together now... Ftousou re!

Bilmukabil.

[miltiades]

Thats ok, but didnt mummy tell you that spitting is unhygienic? If you need to spit again do it in english. Helen my colleague was embarrassed when I asked for a translation

Unfortunately, the English language doesn't have the equivalent of the very unique "ftousou". It's basically a spoken spit that mimics a spit with no saliva or actual spit involved... pretty neat eh?

All together now... Ftousou re!

Bilmukabil.

Greeks and G/Cs spit ( Ftousou ) to keep evil away from you. For example, if you hear of some one speaking of misfortune or bad news, and fear the possibility of the same thing happening to you, you would spit three times on yourself. Spitting is also commonly used to avoid misfortune, so you don’t give the ‘evil eye’ to yourself and jinx some endeavor. Babies are commonly spat upon , no saliva or actual spit , but it is to ward off evil spirits and at the same time paying "tribute" to the baby's good looks !!!.It is not considered an insult , although to a new comer to the Cypriot culture it comes a shock I know because when a relative "spat" at my granddaughter when she was a few months old , my daughter who was uninitiated to this very cultural happening , got very upset and had to be sat down and explained the meaning of Ftousou na min apashathis !!!
GR got wrong again , along with Paphitis who kept warding off evil spirits when replying to my posts , I thought they were being polite !!
For those of us who finished secondary school in Cyprus this cultural oddity is well known , but I can understand GRs' ignorance of another aspect of the Cypriot way of life as I believe he gained his early ""indoctrination " in a foreign country !! Just to keep him happy here is another example of the affect of the GR treatment on me ,
It works !! here is another

[denizaksulu]

Thats ok, but didnt mummy tell you that spitting is unhygienic? If you need to spit again do it in english. Helen my colleague was embarrassed when I asked for a translation

Unfortunately, the English language doesn't have the equivalent of the very unique "ftousou". It's basically a spoken spit that mimics a spit with no saliva or actual spit involved... pretty neat eh?

All together now... Ftousou re!

Bilmukabil.

Greeks and G/Cs spit ( Ftousou ) to keep evil away from you. For example, if you hear of some one speaking of misfortune or bad news, and fear the possibility of the same thing happening to you, you would spit three times on yourself. Spitting is also commonly used to avoid misfortune, so you don’t give the ‘evil eye’ to yourself and jinx some endeavor. Babies are commonly spat upon , no saliva or actual spit , but it is to ward off evil spirits and at the same time paying "tribute" to the baby's good looks !!!.It is not considered an insult , although to a new comer to the Cypriot culture it comes a shock I know because when a relative "spat" at my granddaughter when she was a few months old , my daughter who was uninitiated to this very cultural happening , got very upset and had to be sat down and explained the meaning of Ftousou na min apashathis !!!
GR got wrong again , along with Paphitis who kept warding off evil spirits when replying to my posts , I thought they were being polite !!
For those of us who finished secondary school in Cyprus this cultural oddity is well known , but I can understand GRs' ignorance of another aspect of the Cypriot way of life as I believe he gained his early ""indoctrination " in a foreign country !! Just to keep him happy here is another example of the affect of the GR treatment on me ,
It works !! here is another

Never for once did I think that GR was 'superstitious'. Whatever way he meant, I have returned the 'complement'. I wish he grew up.


Thanks for that explanation Miltiades.

[alexISS]

"ftousou" can be used as an insult too, its the tone of the voice that shows in what manner it's used. I'm sure GR did not mean to say "ftousou na min avaskatheis" or "ftousou matia (or is it mathkia?) mou"

[denizaksulu]

"ftousou" can be used as an insult too, its the tone of the voice that shows in what manner it's used. I'm sure GR did not mean to say "ftousou na min avaskatheis" or "ftousou matia (or is it mathkia?) mou"

I am sure he was not 'full of love'. (thank God)

[alexISS]

Whatever way he meant, I have returned the 'complement'

Is this what "Bilmukabil" means then?

[denizaksulu]

Whatever way he meant, I have returned the 'complement'

Is this what "Bilmukabil" means then?

Yes. When one is complimented, it is a term used. Very useful even though a bit archaic. Useful in the sense that if you are not sure of a pesons sincerity, the use of this formula is appropriate, without resorting to GRs language.