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[denizaksulu]

Simple. EU will say "stay put", end of story.

That was not the case in 1996 and the Imia crisis when Greece almost went to war with Turkey. It was the US that intervened then and it would probably be the US that would intervene in this case too. The EU is mute in such issues

There might be a difference between Greece and Turkey going to war than Tiny Cyprus attacking Turkey.

At its worse, at the slightest 'movement on the ground' Turkey will Swat the RoC per-emptively as Israel did to Egypt. Then what?

If EU will not act, that will give the wrong signal to all and sundry.

[denizaksulu]

Do you realize that before you GCs attack us you will have to get the approval of the EU?

To the best of my knowledge the EU has yet to encompass member's military issues, which makes sense as there is no EU military force as yet.

That may be true but surely they would prevent any military confrontation by 'other' means.

You're going to have to expand on that if we're to have any chance of responding to it...

Simple. EU will say "stay put", end of story.

I suppose you ask me to expand because you have no answer?

The EU will say nothing of the sought.

It will also be great for Cyprus once the EU Rapid Reaction Force is formed.

Under the command of no less thanGen. Rambo GR.

[denizaksulu]

But the above doesn't mean that EU member countries would not unilaterally come to Cyprus's aid

Is there any military alliance between Little Cyprus and the EU (apart from Greece and possibly France). Would they think its worth it?

I dont think so.

Its best that Cyprus stop dreaming and negotiate a withdrawal of Turkey instead of antagonizing them.

[DT.]

A complicated issue...on the other hand it can be translated into a pretty simple equation

Turkey fought a war against a tiny country in turmoil and won. They now negotiate from a position of strengh and include people's towns and properties as one of its negotiating chips.

The tiny island is not in turmoil anymore and GC's are starting to feel that they should stop negotiating due to the uneven winner/loser tilt of the table.(all the chips keep rolling over to turkeys side of the table.)

Its quite clear why ideas such as war which were unheard off before are starting to come out. Turkey has simply negotiated too greedily, leaving the other side with very little improvement to their quality of life should a solution arise (AP is a good example) . This will lead to 2 things...

1) Rise in popularity for more agressive solution
2) Rise in popularity of a permanent partition (which is what turkey wants hence the hard negotiating line)

Don't tell me that 40-50-60,000 etc anatolian settlers are such a big deal for turkey to repatriate them. They uprooted them once they wouldn't think twice of using these pawns again....The settler red line is another example of unnecessary hardline bargaining aimed at pushing the GC's into accepting partition. The fact that some are considering was is a mild side effect to this policy and will not be taken seriously.

[Get Real!]

Do you realize that before you GCs attack us you will have to get the approval of the EU?

To the best of my knowledge the EU has yet to encompass member's military issues, which makes sense as there is no EU military force as yet.

That may be true but surely they would prevent any military confrontation by 'other' means.

You're going to have to expand on that if we're to have any chance of responding to it...

Simple. EU will say "stay put", end of story.

I suppose you ask me to expand because you have no answer?

When I ask someone to expand it's because they are unclear and/or incomplete and thus preventing me from responding.

Now that you've "expanded" , I can't take this any further...

[Get Real!]

I hereby request that all Turkish Cypriots who voted in this poll have the HONESTY and COURAGE to say so…

[alexISS]

Is there any military alliance between Little Cyprus and the EU (apart from Greece and possibly France)

Greece alone is enough, although French help would be definitely welcome

. Would they think its worth it?

I dont think so.

I do, at least as far as Greece is concerned.

[alexISS]

There might be a difference between Greece and Turkey going to war than Tiny Cyprus attacking Turkey.

You can be certain that Cyprus will never attack Turkey. Attempt to liberate its occupied territories maybe, and that will not be consider aggression against Turkey since the whole world recognizes that northern Cyprus is under occupation.

At its worse, at the slightest 'movement on the ground' Turkey will Swat the RoC per-emptively as Israel did to Egypt. Then what?

Turkey is no Israel Deniz, Greece and Cyprus can easily match all the military force they can afford to concentrate in Cyprus

If EU will not act, that will give the wrong signal to all and sundry.

What kind of action can the EU take? It has no military. The best it could do is temporarily "ban" Cyprus, which would be no big deal if it's going to war against Turkey anyway.

[miltiades]

I hereby request that all Turkish Cypriots who voted in this poll have the HONESTY and COURAGE to say so…

I think you may find that those T/Cs that voted , WITH AN EXCEPTION OF ONE , voted for war ! You ! For obvious reasons , you handed them propaganda on a plate !!
Will you also have the courage to state here and now that what you meant is that the RoC has the option of war should negotiations fail therefore withdrawing your statement , which resulted in a poll , that : """"Any illusions of a complex inter-communal political arrangement being implemented in Cyprus is now history, Turkey’s EU make-believe journey is over, and it is now a race to get the upper hand in technology, political influence, and in the overall balance of power because unfortunately it’s become apparent that Cyprus can only be liberated in the same way it was enslaved… through bloodshed! """"

You also have to apologise for the filthy language you used against my person and the accusations levied at me , ie traitor and coward .
WHY WERE YOU THE FIRST TO CAST YOUR VOTE ?

DO YOU HAVE THE COURAGE ??

[Kikapu]

I hereby request that all Turkish Cypriots who voted in this poll have the HONESTY and COURAGE to say so…

Just for the record and Sotos can back me on this, and that is, I have a policy of not voting on any polls carried out on the forum, period.!!