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[Get Real!]

No , he is not proposing the defence of our nation he is stating that the only option left is WAR.

You have taken an article I specifically wrote last year to target the Turkish Nationalists and well-known “grey wolves” forum called ATCA. It’s a shame it’s no longer in operation as a full fledged forum so that you could see via a link what happened but other former members there, like Eric Dayi can verify this.

It’s a shame we can no longer access this site because I had done far worse with other threads to them back then, and it would’ve been very entertaining to be able to read them today…

Oh well…

[Simon]

At the moment the percentages of the vote are similar to the population share of Cyprus. I guess that means that Miltiades, at 16%, is entitled to a veto.

[miltiades]

Of course it is the same thing. I wonder if you would be saying the same thing had Nazi Germany conquered part of England, and someone told you that fighting them was not the same as defending your country!

No it is not ! We haven't a chance in hell in defeating Turkey militarily.
Battles may be won but the war never. We can defeat Turkey politically we have so far placed immovable objects in Turkeys attempts to get recognition for the "TRNC" .
It wont just be madness to start a war it would be absolutely insane , our people will suffer immensely , our economy would collapse , there will never be peace in Cyprus after a war because Turkey will not accept a military defeat , as if that was possible , and the war will go on .
Frustrated military decisions have been the downfall of many nations ,
reality common sense and negotiations via a political war is the only option that can be considered and not the war option as presented by GR and supported by all of you . I will challenge each and every one who wants to destroy our island and put us back in the dark ages.

[Get Real!]

Here we go again the same mentality of the 60's and 70's has shown itself

Was that you that just voted by any chance Umit?

[miltiades]

No , he is not proposing the defence of our nation he is stating that the only option left is WAR.

You have taken an article I specifically wrote last year to target the Turkish Nationalists and well-known “grey wolves” forum called ATCA. It’s a shame it’s no longer in operation as a full fledged forum so that you could see via a link what happened but other former members there, like Eric Dayi can verify this.

It’s a shame we can no longer access this site because I had done far worse with other threads to them back then, and it would’ve been very entertaining to be able to read them today…
You only just posted this article which prompted me to respond and demand a poll.
Are you now saying that WAR IS NOT THE ONLY OPTION ?

Oh well…

[Oracle]

Oracle:
That is not being a warmonger ... and you are a traitor for siding with Turkey!

He still has hope for an unnegotiable military. Can't call him a traitor for having peaceful beliefs for this mess to end.

So do we, but ...

On the basis that he would still advocate inaction when the only option to save our country is a specified course .... then that would be tantamount to acquiring the label of "traitor" ... since he has labelled GR! as a "warmonger" for advocating defending our country against the present occupation....

[miltiades]

No , he is not proposing the defence of our nation he is stating that the only option left is WAR.

You have taken an article I specifically wrote last year to target the Turkish Nationalists and well-known “grey wolves” forum called ATCA. It’s a shame it’s no longer in operation as a full fledged forum so that you could see via a link what happened but other former members there, like Eric Dayi can verify this.

It’s a shame we can no longer access this site because I had done far worse with other threads to them back then, and it would’ve been very entertaining to be able to read them today…
You only just posted this article which prompted me to respond and demand a poll.
Are you now saying that WAR IS NOT THE ONLY OPTION ?

Oh well…

[Simon]

[quote]No it is not ! We haven't a chance in hell in defeating Turkey militarily.
Battles may be won but the war never. We can defeat Turkey politically we have so far placed immovable objects in Turkeys attempts to get recognition for the "TRNC" .
It wont just be madness to start a war it would be absolutely insane , our people will suffer immensely , our economy would collapse , there will never be peace in Cyprus after a war because Turkey will not accept a military defeat , as if that was possible , and the war will go on .
Frustrated military decisions have been the downfall of many nations ,
reality common sense and negotiations via a political war is the only option that can be considered and not the war option as presented by GR and supported by all of you . I will challenge each and every one who wants to destroy our island and put us back in the dark ages.[/quote]


Miltiades, this rant is completely irrelevant to my post. Have you forgotten your medication Just kidding before you unleash your diatribe on me

[miltiades]

No , he is not proposing the defence of our nation he is stating that the only option left is WAR.

You have taken an article I specifically wrote last year to target the Turkish Nationalists and well-known “grey wolves” forum called ATCA. It’s a shame it’s no longer in operation as a full fledged forum so that you could see via a link what happened but other former members there, like Eric Dayi can verify this.

It’s a shame we can no longer access this site because I had done far worse with other threads to them back then, and it would’ve been very entertaining to be able to read them today…
Oh well…

You only just posted this article which prompted me to respond and demand a poll.
Are you now saying that WAR IS NOT THE ONLY OPTION ?

[Oracle]

Of course it is the same thing. I wonder if you would be saying the same thing had Nazi Germany conquered part of England, and someone told you that fighting them was not the same as defending your country!

No it is not ! We haven't a chance in hell in defeating Turkey militarily.
Battles may be won but the war never. We can defeat Turkey politically we have so far placed immovable objects in Turkeys attempts to get recognition for the "TRNC" .
It wont just be madness to start a war it would be absolutely insane , our people will suffer immensely , our economy would collapse , there will never be peace in Cyprus after a war because Turkey will not accept a military defeat , as if that was possible , and the war will go on .
Frustrated military decisions have been the downfall of many nations ,
reality common sense and negotiations via a political war is the only option that can be considered and not the war option as presented by GR and supported by all of you . I will challenge each and every one who wants to destroy our island and put us back in the dark ages.

So you are not a pacifist ... just a defeatist.

You are not proposing we refrain from attacking Turkey through some higher morals ... but simply because we would lose...

You fail both camps ...