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GR or Miltiades

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

WHICH VIEWS DO YOU CONSIDER MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A REALISTIC , JUST AND PEACEFULL SOLUTION TO THE CYPRUS PROBLEM : GR OR MILTIADES

Poll ended at Tue May 13, 2008 9:14 pm

I find myself closer to "Get Real's" views
14
34%
I find myself closer to "Miltiades's " views
17
41%
I do not support either on their views
10
24%
 
Total votes : 41

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun May 11, 2008 11:02 pm

...if it comes to bloody warfare, you can be sure that the isaland has been divided in two. at that point a line that is drawn will be crossed. we have learned what Grivas started as a guerilla has become the most successful tactic in warfare, given the harm that a few boxcutters can do to whole Nations, when organised under the hands of very few. if after so many years of patience and a conviction in the Rule of Law, it comes to this, one can assume that the anarchy will again end with many innocent victims and the same result, requiring reconcilliation. Cyprus is an island.

both miliades and GR are right. there is no "choosing" between them because war and preparedness for warfare are a part of the same system. they are not far apart politically, except for the means, the goal requires the two to work as counterparts, like the carrot and the stick. above all, their context of a State being strong requires a balance with the concept of a Nation, and, as we are committed by the Principal of our Constitution, we must provide to the rest of our global partners a definition for the word "Bicommunal".

...please read my manifesto.
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Postby miltiades » Sun May 11, 2008 11:04 pm

Simon wrote:No, it is because the true GC feelings are in the other thread. :lol: Unless TCs hijack that as well.

Are you saying that the true G/C feelings is that there is no other option than War ??
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon May 12, 2008 1:25 am

BirKibrisli wrote:Forgot to tell you a scene which stuck in my mind from an Italian film about WW2...Fascism was on the rise,and Mussolini's black shirts were running around the country whipping up nationalistic fervor....

On the wall of the City Council,in a little mountain village, the black shirts came and wrote in huge letters " IT IS BETTER TO LIVE 1 DAY AS A LION THAN 1000 DAYS AS A SHEEP"

People stood around clapping and cheering and making war-cries...
Then the village idiot approached,read the slogan,reached for the paint brush and proceeded to delete some of the words...
The new slogan read "IT IS BETTER TO LIVE 1000 DAYS..."... :( :( :(



I am reposting this to provide for light entertainment for the troops getting ready for war... :)
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 12, 2008 1:37 am

Now do the GCs understand what the majority think about a solution they prefer war to sharing equally with TCs. Miltiades you are a minority clutch at straws, do you need anymore proof?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 12, 2008 2:36 am

Viewpoint wrote:Now do the GCs understand what the majority think about a solution they prefer war to sharing equally with TCs. Miltiades you are a minority clutch at straws, do you need anymore proof?

The Turkish Cypriot determination to hang onto something that does NOT belong to them further encourages the Greek Cypriot determination to regain that which is rightfully theirs.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 12, 2008 2:45 am

BirKibrisli wrote:Then the village idiot approached,read the slogan,reached for the paint brush and proceeded to delete some of the words...
The new slogan read "IT IS BETTER TO LIVE 1000 DAYS..."... :( :( :(

You forgot to mention the 7 year old who approached last and added:

"...as the village idiot!"

:lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 12, 2008 2:56 am

miltiades wrote:
Simon wrote:No, it is because the true GC feelings are in the other thread. :lol: Unless TCs hijack that as well.

Are you saying that the true G/C feelings is that there is no other option than War ??

That is what YOU are trying to foolishly blame the Greek Cypriot community with, in your selfish attempt to portray the Mahatma Gandhi here while endorsing American imperialism elsewhere... Image
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Postby Piratis » Mon May 12, 2008 3:03 am

Now do the GCs understand what the majority think about a solution they prefer war to sharing equally with TCs. Miltiades you are a minority clutch at straws, do you need anymore proof?


No, you prefer war instead of sharing equally with GCs. You want each one of you to have 4.5 times more voting power than what each GC has, and you want twice as much land as well. Thats exactly why are in war. Because you started a war in order to gain on our loss.
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 12, 2008 8:22 am

Viewpoint wrote:Now do the GCs understand what the majority think about a solution they prefer war to sharing equally with TCs. Miltiades you are a minority clutch at straws, do you need anymore proof?

You are wrong VP , the majority of G/Cs want war just as much as they want a hole in their head , GR has influenced those that closely follow his warped ideas , the Government of the RoC and the influential political bodies would never see war , the way GR sees it , as the ONLY option.
Those that voted for him , including Paphitis are now admitting that their vote was for war as an option , nor for war as the ONLY Option. Had they paid a little attention they would have realised that the question was , one for war as the only option and one for negotiations . I pasted on more than a few occasions what this Plonker stood for , he laughed at me like a clown , and judging by his perverted views on numerous issues he is nothing but a clown.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 12, 2008 8:46 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:This poll would have been more meaningful if Turk-TCs did not cast a vote, as quite clearly they are not going to vote for Get Real!'s leaning towards Cyprus' capability to defeat Turkey.

I for one would have liked to see just whom the GCs would have backed.

Can we have another one?



Oracle dearest,

This is a Cypriot issue. you cannot pick and choose the electorate. :lol: :lol:


And you deniz ..... in your London Mansion, as part of the Ottoman remnants that have caused our problems ... what part do you have in a rightful solution for Cyprus? ...



Well dearest Oracle, I do not live in a mansion as you allege. All Cypriots were part of the Ottoman Empire, and that includes you amongst the remnants (also which caused part of our suffering).

I, like any other Cypriot wish to live in peace with my fellow Cypriots, be they TC or GC.

If you are suggesting TCs do not vote in this game, would this be an example of things to comes if there were unification? You decide who will vote where our future is concerned. I hope the ideas behind this game are not reflected over all of Cyprus as I will see no future in any re-unification.

I agree with Halil that this is a STUPID game. I hope treat the Cyprus Issue more seriously.

Have a good day. :twisted:
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