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WHICH VIEWS DO YOU CONSIDER MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A REALISTIC , JUST AND PEACEFULL SOLUTION TO THE CYPRUS PROBLEM : GR OR MILTIADES

Poll ended at Tue May 13, 2008 9:14 pm

I find myself closer to "Get Real's" views
14
34%
I find myself closer to "Miltiades's " views
17
41%
I do not support either on their views
10
24%
 
Total votes : 41

Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 12, 2008 12:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Not you personally. 'You' in the plural. You began the thread but others decided that it was valid and laughable.

Of course, when Eric returns I may be tempted to direct him to that link... :lol:



Oh no! There goes my peace and quiet. :lol:

At least someone else remembered last years discussions on the 800 'block vote'. I will watch the fireworks at a safe distance. :lol: I dont want to be the victim of co-lateral damage. :wink:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 12, 2008 1:12 pm

Piratis wrote:
Now do the GCs understand what the majority think about a solution they prefer war to sharing equally with TCs. Miltiades you are a minority clutch at straws, do you need anymore proof?


No, you prefer war instead of sharing equally with GCs. You want each one of you to have 4.5 times more voting power than what each GC has, and you want twice as much land as well. Thats exactly why are in war. Because you started a war in order to gain on our loss.


No you are wrong, lets take your incorrect assumptions, you say we want 4.5 times the vote of a GC, we are only demanding this on issues which are sensitive, the majority do not always vote for what is right for the whole community, think of it like this Cyprus would be Greece if we did not stop you.

Land even if split 37% 63% would mean that everyone could travel and settle where ever they wish under a federal structure, your problem is that you do not want to allow the TCs what you allow yourself and that is the TCs to administer a specific area.

Any war we have always been the defending side not the instigator, we will always be prepared to fight back if we have to so these chants of we will win do you no favors and only make us more determined not to unite with war mongers who have still not learned their lesson from history.
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 12, 2008 1:25 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:I get the feeling that this vote has been hijacked by TCs. :roll:

TCs are Cypriot too. Are we not to have a say? Now you want to legalise the 'vote rigging' you are planning. This gives me 'great hope' for the future of TC and GC living together. :roll: :roll:

Are you seriously suggesting that Turkish Cypriots should have a say as to whether or not Greek Cypriots should consider a military confrontation as an option? Image


At the beginning of the thread, the contenders did not state their 'manifesto' clearly. You also used the figure of the 800 TC union members for you pro-Enosis referandum when it suited you. Why stop there? :lol:


BTW: that reminds me ... did you ever find evidence for it being a "block" vote of union members, unaware of their fate?
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 12, 2008 1:36 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:I get the feeling that this vote has been hijacked by TCs. :roll:

TCs are Cypriot too. Are we not to have a say? Now you want to legalise the 'vote rigging' you are planning. This gives me 'great hope' for the future of TC and GC living together. :roll: :roll:

Are you seriously suggesting that Turkish Cypriots should have a say as to whether or not Greek Cypriots should consider a military confrontation as an option? Image


At the beginning of the thread, the contenders did not state their 'manifesto' clearly. You also used the figure of the 800 TC union members for you pro-Enosis referandum when it suited you. Why stop there? :lol:


BTW: that reminds me ... did you ever find evidence for it being a "block" vote of union members, unaware of their fate?



My search was interrupted by my trip to Istanbul. I searched a couple of hundred posts dealing with AKEL and the referandum. I was new on the forum and this item was news to me. The AKEL vote was discussed among GC members. Its a pity I can not remember the thread. I will carry on the search after I catch up with more important work.

I suppose you wish me to carry on searching if only to shut me up. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 12, 2008 1:42 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:I get the feeling that this vote has been hijacked by TCs. :roll:

TCs are Cypriot too. Are we not to have a say? Now you want to legalise the 'vote rigging' you are planning. This gives me 'great hope' for the future of TC and GC living together. :roll: :roll:

Are you seriously suggesting that Turkish Cypriots should have a say as to whether or not Greek Cypriots should consider a military confrontation as an option? Image


At the beginning of the thread, the contenders did not state their 'manifesto' clearly. You also used the figure of the 800 TC union members for you pro-Enosis referandum when it suited you. Why stop there? :lol:


BTW: that reminds me ... did you ever find evidence for it being a "block" vote of union members, unaware of their fate?



My search was interrupted by my trip to Istanbul. I searched a couple of hundred posts dealing with AKEL and the referandum. I was new on the forum and this item was news to me. The AKEL vote was discussed among GC members. Its a pity I can not remember the thread. I will carry on the search after I catch up with more important work.

I suppose you wish me to carry on searching if only to shut me up. :lol:


Well don't brand it about as fact until you have provided adequate evidence .... but yes, a little research might do you good! :D
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 12, 2008 1:56 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:I get the feeling that this vote has been hijacked by TCs. :roll:

TCs are Cypriot too. Are we not to have a say? Now you want to legalise the 'vote rigging' you are planning. This gives me 'great hope' for the future of TC and GC living together. :roll: :roll:

Are you seriously suggesting that Turkish Cypriots should have a say as to whether or not Greek Cypriots should consider a military confrontation as an option? Image


At the beginning of the thread, the contenders did not state their 'manifesto' clearly. You also used the figure of the 800 TC union members for you pro-Enosis referandum when it suited you. Why stop there? :lol:


BTW: that reminds me ... did you ever find evidence for it being a "block" vote of union members, unaware of their fate?



My search was interrupted by my trip to Istanbul. I searched a couple of hundred posts dealing with AKEL and the referandum. I was new on the forum and this item was news to me. The AKEL vote was discussed among GC members. Its a pity I can not remember the thread. I will carry on the search after I catch up with more important work.

I suppose you wish me to carry on searching if only to shut me up. :lol:


Well don't brand it about as fact until you have provided adequate evidence .... but yes, a little research might do you good! :D



I am sure there are a few members extant who remember the posts. I wish they were brave enought to point out the thread.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 12, 2008 2:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:No, you prefer war instead of sharing equally with GCs. You want each one of you to have 4.5 times more voting power than what each GC has, and you want twice as much land as well. Thats exactly why are in war. Because you started a war in order to gain on our loss.

...we are only demanding this on issues which are sensitive, the majority do not always vote for what is right for the whole community, think of it like this Cyprus would be Greece if we did not stop you.

That is so relative that it will be used and abused until it brings the end of us. Cyprus cannot afford to have ANY ambiguity in any agreement it reaches for it will become the gateway to disaster.
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 12, 2008 10:34 pm

I think it is time to bring this thread into play , remember this was the "original " thread where all members , not just the G/Cs as the other one , had to decide whether GRs views or mine were preferred in finding a solution.
GR has so far received 33 % , including his own vote he received 13 in total (12 if his own vote is deducted )
The overwhelming majority 67 % did not see war as the best option. I doubt that these figures will have changed much by tomorrow unless of course I cast my vote !!!
GR , you are in the minority mate !!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 12, 2008 10:44 pm

miltiades wrote:I think it is time to bring this thread into play , remember this was the "original " thread where all members , not just the G/Cs as the other one , had to decide whether GRs views or mine were preferred in finding a solution.
GR has so far received 33 % , including his own vote he received 13 in total (12 if his own vote is deducted )
The overwhelming majority 67 % did not see war as the best option. I doubt that these figures will have changed much by tomorrow unless of course I cast my vote !!!
GR , you are in the minority mate !!

Not only has your poll been nothing but an opportunistic gimmick full of lies, but you should also remove around 10 votes from the TCs!

A man your age should be ashamed of yourself.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 12, 2008 10:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:I think it is time to bring this thread into play , remember this was the "original " thread where all members , not just the G/Cs as the other one , had to decide whether GRs views or mine were preferred in finding a solution.
GR has so far received 33 % , including his own vote he received 13 in total (12 if his own vote is deducted )
The overwhelming majority 67 % did not see war as the best option. I doubt that these figures will have changed much by tomorrow unless of course I cast my vote !!!
GR , you are in the minority mate !!

Not only has your poll been nothing but an opportunistic gimmick full of lies, but you should also remove around 10 votes from the TCs!

A man your age should be ashamed of yourself.



GR, you are a person who always quotes 'Democracy' at every opportunity. Is Removing a part of the 'voters' to rig the result part of your definition of 'Democracy'?
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