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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 5:43 pm

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umit07 wrote:Ok GR if you got balls to power to attack why don't you? WHY WHY WHY ? 34 years have past without jack shit happening ! Turkey has got a bit over a millon soldiers and in an event of war can conscipt millons more. In a event of such an attack it wouldn't just be the TAF fighting either! I personally would take up arms. GR you are all hot air.

PS: Ever thought of what NATO would do in such a situation?


Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo RUNNNNNNNNNNN......UMIT is going to take arms!!!!

I did not know that the TAF recruited CHILD soldiers. The RoC is Doooooooooomed!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I suspect that Umit is part of an elite group called... the Teletubbie Gurkhas! :lol:


OMG. :lol: :lol:
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Postby umit07 » Sat May 10, 2008 5:48 pm

It's NOT a threat I'm just only stating what I would do. I don't think a 21 year old is a child anymore either.

"The TAF, with a combined troop strength of 1,054,750 soldiers[3], is the second largest standing force in the NATO (after the United States)."

Available for
military service: 21,756,323 (2008 est.) , age 20-49

As for the airforce:

http://www.scramble.nl/tr.htm

I'm sure it's more than ample to beat the shit out of anything you got.

WHY DON'T YOU ATTACK GR ??????????? 34 years should have been nough time for you to get together a counter offensive.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Ar ... ite_note-2
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 5:55 pm

umit07 wrote:It's NOT a threat I'm just only stating what I would do. I don't think a 21 year old is a child anymore either.

"The TAF, with a combined troop strength of 1,054,750 soldiers[3], is the second largest standing force in the NATO (after the United States)."

Available for
military service: 21,756,323 (2008 est.) , age 20-49

As for the airforce:

http://www.scramble.nl/tr.htm

I'm sure it's more than ample to beat the shit out of anything you got.

WHY DON'T YOU ATTACK GR ??????????? 34 years should have been nough time for you to get together a counter offensive.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Ar ... ite_note-2


Not when you pit it against this.

http://www.scramble.nl/gr.htm
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Postby umit07 » Sat May 10, 2008 5:56 pm

All beware GR may attack the North with some deadly computer virus!! Even GR's fascist idol Tpap knew better enough.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 5:58 pm

umit07 wrote:It's NOT a threat I'm just only stating what I would do. I don't think a 21 year old is a child anymore either.

"The TAF, with a combined troop strength of 1,054,750 soldiers[3], is the second largest standing force in the NATO (after the United States)."

Available for
military service: 21,756,323 (2008 est.) , age 20-49

As for the airforce:

http://www.scramble.nl/tr.htm

I'm sure it's more than ample to beat the shit out of anything you got.

WHY DON'T YOU ATTACK GR ??????????? 34 years should have been nough time for you to get together a counter offensive.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Ar ... ite_note-2


And I do not beleive your statistics.

Please stop using WIKI as a reliable source. Try again. Surely you can find an official website to back up your claims.
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 10, 2008 5:58 pm

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miltiades wrote:Let him prove that His ridiculous ideas are welcomed , put it to the test , Miltiades's peaceful solution or GRs polemics.

You're ASSUMING that your projected stance is one of a "peaceful solution" but you're going to be surprised at how many see through your artificial lip service.

But anyway, that's fine with me miltiades so why don’t you start a poll like…

“Whose posts/threads do you find more interesting?”

…make your move.

You are the expert my son on starting polls , and the content must reflect the
areas under discussion on this thread . Whose views are constructive in finding a solution to the Cyprus problem . Miltiades or GR . I trust you will be starting this poll based on the matter in question , your views versus mine , dare to do it ? I don't think so you have no balls mate just mouth and trousers ! The subject must be relevant with your expressed views as against mine on ways to find a solution. Go on then .
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Postby umit07 » Sat May 10, 2008 6:00 pm

What makes you think greece will support an GC attack on the North??? THey never will! You will have to carry it out by yourselves.

Bafidi why don't you tell us a bit about the new F-35's TUrkey is purchasing ?
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Postby metecyp » Sat May 10, 2008 6:12 pm

Anyone who tries to compare the military power of the GCs and Turkey and who seriously/jokingly considers the possibility that GCs can indeed drive Turkey out of Cyprus using military force is a complete moron and lives in a dream land.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 10, 2008 6:15 pm

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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 6:20 pm

miltiades wrote:
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CopperLine wrote:This thread : boys fiddling around with their toys, or armchair generals or fantasy comic nerds ?

Feminist psychology definitely has the answer.


So you decide to join us. Welcome! Come and play with our toys. :lol: :lol:

You guys must be crazy to cotemplate that we would just sit around and allow OUR country to suffer the indignity of occupation in perpetuity.

For someone that has resigned to the fact that no peace settlement will ever be, then the only thing that remains are our toys which are used to defend our honor and dignity. These toys are here and waiting for the day. Whether that be in 2 years or 10 years. The blessed day will come where we will see our toys rolling down the main street of Kyrenia.


I do hope that you will make it in time to take part , you do live in Australia after all , or are planning to be an armchair observe whilst our young men are dying . The blessed day !! What on earth can be blessed about war !! Lets presume that this "blessed " day does arrive and the "toys " are rolling down the streets of Kyrenia , what do you think the Turkish Air force will be doing or the 40 thousand Turkish troops already in Cyprus , oh dear I forgot they would have already been wiped out by karagiozi GR !!!
My dear Paphitis , you do surprise me , I always found your posts reasonable and mature , what changed ?


I have spent 11 years of my life serving Australia. I only have one regret in life. And that is that I have never served the CNG. Nothing would make me more proud than to be able to contribute to my country's security and well being. And I am very jeolous of Cypriot men who have done the honorable thing and served in the CNG and keep Cyprus and Cypriots safe.

If I did decide to come to Cyprus, rest assured that the CNG could use my specialist training. And Miltiades, I will come. Never been the armchair type and to be really honest, I kind of miss the adrenalin rush.

Forget the adrenalin rush , concentrate for a few moments on the blood rush , the pain and the suffering , our young men dying in a war that can never achieve the desired result , this result is the liberation of the occupied lands , defeat of Turkey militarily and dealing with our T/C compatriots .
Paphitis I know you want to contribute to the well being of our country why not do what I do and contribute wisely. Build bridges that all our people will find easy to cross , discard any ideas about wars and killings , be strong in defence but let our compatriots know that we want the best for them just as we want the best for ourselves and that can only be achieved in a united Cyprus free from occupying troops.
I have posted many times the the removal of the Turkish army can be achieved only with the support of the T/Cs and the T/Cs have to first of all place their trust in us the G/Cs.
On this forum I have remonstrated with many from both sides , BUT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONSISTENT IN MY VIEWS .
I have never met Bir and yet we have a a very strong and mutually shared respect for each other , I have met briefly Kikapu , Halil on more than 5 occasions and shared a drink and a bite to eat , Iceman also , not forgetting MRfromNG , and Deniz .With all these Cypriots I have established a mutual rapport and understanding.
I mention all the above because they are all T/Cs , all know where I stand on the ROC , the "TRNC" the occupied parts of Cyprus and the foreign army of occupation. I did not capitulate in order to be respected .I earned their respect and they mine , by being honest and committed to peace and justice for Cyprus and all of our people.
GR , sometime back used the most derogatory language in describing the UK G/Cs by denigrating our efforts in fighting for Cyprus the only way available to us here in the UK.
Serve your country , establish and maintain trust with those that we have to share our island with for the sake of the future generation of Cypriots.


Miltiades, I too have know doubt that your intentions are honorable and well thought. I do beleive however that your ambitions of building bridges are over optimistic. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, but I beleive that Turkey will never be interested in allowing us a fair and viable solution. It will do everything in it's power to maintain a strangle hold on Cyprus and keep the GCs as hostage in their own country. Very soon, there will be very few TCs in occupied Cyprus and it is worth noting that many of them are suffering as well. The only ones that are not suffering are those ruling elites of the Denktash inner circles who basically monopolise all the plum jobs and plunder thousands of stolen GC properties and line their swiss bank accounts. The rest of the working classes are just left to rot and serve coffee in a Turkish Kafenio or to migrate to Australia, England or USA for a better life for their families. This is the corruption and injustice in the "trnc" which was declared to protect the TC community and instead is ethnically cleansing them to the point of extinsion. The only ones that get to enjoy their pirate plunder are the select ruling classes.

Based on this I unfortunaltely do not share your optimism. The Turks will never let go of their stolen lands. They also will never enter the EU.

It would be great to see a viable solution on Cyprus but I beleive Turkey has other ideas. We will see with the inevitable collapse of the current peace talks. And there is no way in the world that we Cypriots can rule out any future military conflict, because to do so would be to accept the permanent partition and occupation of Cyprus.

If bloodshed ever re-appears in Cyprus, then please go and blame Turkey's recalcitrance and not me who simply sees the present situation as a hopeless one but will never give up on the dream that one day we may actually grow some balls and atleast try and liberate our very own lands right up to kyrenia and Apostolos Andreas!
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