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Why partition is out of the question…

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby miltiades » Sat May 10, 2008 4:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only a fool can think that war will solve anything. I ask GR , what is the point that he is trying to make .Is it that he feels the ROC , lets also include Greece ( EXCLUDE BLACKWATER ) can take on the Turkish military , defeat it and recover the occupied areas ?? What does he suggest happens to the T/Cs , would the be annihilated before or after defeating Turkey ?
He does read a lot of comics , lives in a dream world and he is constantly exhibiting his extraordinary stupidity and immaturity, the man is simply suffering from extreme bouts of distress and insecurity.

Miltiades, I don’t know why you waste your time on this forum given that you’re convinced of defeat and openly offering your arse to the Turkish military. Please bend over 90 degrees and start walking backwards towards the Kyrenia mountains where Shah and Eric will arrange a BIG and well endowed Turk to take you thoroughly, so that you may finally become someone’s bitch like you’ve always wanted and hopefully…

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Listen you first class arrogant piece of shit , every one on this forum knows what a stupid bastard you are , I know you have taken on a few girls on this forum and convinced your self of your superior intellect and wit , but let me tell you that you are beginning to get on my tits with your stupid suppositions , war cries and the bullshit that you post on serious subjects such as the process of finding a peaceful solution to the Cyprob. Sick little shits like you I can chew and spit out before you notice it.
Do your self a favour stupid and concentrate on issues that might help not hinder the process of a solution. Your vulgar fucking stupid assertions are nothing more than dangerous , nonconstructive malicious bullshit.
Let me warn you stupid , you make one more vulgar comment on my self and you will find out who your dealing with .
In the meantime go read your comics on Blackwater !!
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 10, 2008 4:13 pm

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Get Real! wrote:The Troodos mountains are a fortress of sophisticated SAMs that easily cover the entire island and beyond due to Cyprus' small size. Turkish fighter jets will not be able to take off successfully from Cypriot territory but will have to come from southern Turkey. I haven't even mentioned the hundreds of hand-held Mistrals issued to personnel.

Yes I knows all about the CNG highly mobile and rapidly deployable Air Defence Systems. Air elements (fighters) are still required for air superiority though to ensure that these SAMs are not attacked with fire and forget HARM Air to Ground missiles (AGM-88 High Speed Anti Radiation) which guide themselves onto these SAMs by using their radar signature. HARM is a nightmare of radar controlled SAM installations.

Fighters are imperative otherwise the CNG is extremely vulnerable. The Air Defence structure is also vulnerable to HARM (AGM) attack which the TuAF does have in it's inventory.

Which brings me to my question. I understand that the CNG may lack certain logistics but are there any plans to purchase our own Russian Fighters?

To the best of my knowledge the answer is no. As you’ll already know buying and maintaining fighter jets, as well as pilot training, etc, is one of the most expensive military investments and in our case perhaps overkill.

However, the NG’s goal would be to reach the shores of Kyrenia and thus liberate the relatively small piece of territory under occupation, and hold onto it long enough while the international community, which will have stepped in by then, will make arrangements for necessary treaties.

If Turkey was to then decide to return in full force, even though she would’ve lost the first phase, there will be HUGE international repercussions, as this would constitute a SECOND invasion.

Of course, I haven't included Greece into it at all so far but that's the way I prefer it...
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Postby unitedwestand » Sat May 10, 2008 4:15 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only a fool can think that war will solve anything. I ask GR , what is the point that he is trying to make .Is it that he feels the ROC , lets also include Greece ( EXCLUDE BLACKWATER ) can take on the Turkish military , defeat it and recover the occupied areas ?? What does he suggest happens to the T/Cs , would the be annihilated before or after defeating Turkey ?
He does read a lot of comics , lives in a dream world and he is constantly exhibiting his extraordinary stupidity and immaturity, the man is simply suffering from extreme bouts of distress and insecurity.

Miltiades, I don’t know why you waste your time on this forum given that you’re convinced of defeat and openly offering your arse to the Turkish military. Please bend over 90 degrees and start walking backwards towards the Kyrenia mountains where Shah and Eric will arrange a BIG and well endowed Turk to take you thoroughly, so that you may finally become someone’s bitch like you’ve always wanted and hopefully…

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Listen you first class arrogant piece of shit , every one on this forum knows what a stupid bastard you are , I know you have taken on a few girls on this forum and convinced your self of your superior intellect and wit , but let me tell you that you are beginning to get on my tits with your stupid suppositions , war cries and the bullshit that you post on serious subjects such as the process of finding a peaceful solution to the Cyprob. Sick little shits like you I can chew and spit out before you notice it.
Do your self a favour stupid and concentrate on issues that might help not hinder the process of a solution. Your vulgar fucking stupid assertions are nothing more than dangerous , nonconstructive malicious bullshit.
Let me warn you stupid , you make one more vulgar comment on my self and you will find out who your dealing with .
In the meantime go read your comics on Blackwater !!


Respect, total respect my man.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 10, 2008 4:24 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only a fool can think that war will solve anything. I ask GR , what is the point that he is trying to make .Is it that he feels the ROC , lets also include Greece ( EXCLUDE BLACKWATER ) can take on the Turkish military , defeat it and recover the occupied areas ?? What does he suggest happens to the T/Cs , would the be annihilated before or after defeating Turkey ?
He does read a lot of comics , lives in a dream world and he is constantly exhibiting his extraordinary stupidity and immaturity, the man is simply suffering from extreme bouts of distress and insecurity.

Miltiades, I don’t know why you waste your time on this forum given that you’re convinced of defeat and openly offering your arse to the Turkish military. Please bend over 90 degrees and start walking backwards towards the Kyrenia mountains where Shah and Eric will arrange a BIG and well endowed Turk to take you thoroughly, so that you may finally become someone’s bitch like you’ve always wanted and hopefully…

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Listen you first class arrogant piece of shit , every one on this forum knows what a stupid bastard you are , I know you have taken on a few girls on this forum and convinced your self of your superior intellect and wit , but let me tell you that you are beginning to get on my tits with your stupid suppositions , war cries and the bullshit that you post on serious subjects such as the process of finding a peaceful solution to the Cyprob. Sick little shits like you I can chew and spit out before you notice it.
Do your self a favour stupid and concentrate on issues that might help not hinder the process of a solution. Your vulgar fucking stupid assertions are nothing more than dangerous , nonconstructive malicious bullshit.
Let me warn you stupid , you make one more vulgar comment on my self and you will find out who your dealing with .
In the meantime go read your comics on Blackwater !!

Nobody is interested in your miserable little blubbers; they’re all the same anyway regardless of the topic we’re discussing, so stop polluting the airways with your boring posts and go hit the bottle where you excel…
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 4:26 pm

unitedwestand wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOAxNjlUurw

Enjoy, bloody dreamers. You think you are authority on the subject of warfare? Even if you had the weaponry you haven't got the fucking balls.

If we didn't know you we may fear you, but for fucks sake we know you better than you know yourselves, bunch of fucking chickens, You have tanks, but they only have reverse gears.


How much of this hardware can Turkey dedicate to Cyprus and neglect it's Western, and Eastern frontier?
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Postby unitedwestand » Sat May 10, 2008 4:28 pm

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only a fool can think that war will solve anything. I ask GR , what is the point that he is trying to make .Is it that he feels the ROC , lets also include Greece ( EXCLUDE BLACKWATER ) can take on the Turkish military , defeat it and recover the occupied areas ?? What does he suggest happens to the T/Cs , would the be annihilated before or after defeating Turkey ?
He does read a lot of comics , lives in a dream world and he is constantly exhibiting his extraordinary stupidity and immaturity, the man is simply suffering from extreme bouts of distress and insecurity.

Miltiades, I don’t know why you waste your time on this forum given that you’re convinced of defeat and openly offering your arse to the Turkish military. Please bend over 90 degrees and start walking backwards towards the Kyrenia mountains where Shah and Eric will arrange a BIG and well endowed Turk to take you thoroughly, so that you may finally become someone’s bitch like you’ve always wanted and hopefully…

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Listen you first class arrogant piece of shit , every one on this forum knows what a stupid bastard you are , I know you have taken on a few girls on this forum and convinced your self of your superior intellect and wit , but let me tell you that you are beginning to get on my tits with your stupid suppositions , war cries and the bullshit that you post on serious subjects such as the process of finding a peaceful solution to the Cyprob. Sick little shits like you I can chew and spit out before you notice it.
Do your self a favour stupid and concentrate on issues that might help not hinder the process of a solution. Your vulgar fucking stupid assertions are nothing more than dangerous , nonconstructive malicious bullshit.
Let me warn you stupid , you make one more vulgar comment on my self and you will find out who your dealing with .
In the meantime go read your comics on Blackwater !!

Nobody is interested in your miserable little blubbers; they’re all the same anyway regardless of the topic we’re discussing, so stop polluting the airways with your boring posts and go hit the bottle where you excel…


At least he is no fucking COMIC BOOK hero you moron. You and Pafidis think you are a couple of comic book characters. Get a life prick.

War with Turkey :roll: :roll: what a wanker.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 4:33 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Troodos mountains are a fortress of sophisticated SAMs that easily cover the entire island and beyond due to Cyprus' small size. Turkish fighter jets will not be able to take off successfully from Cypriot territory but will have to come from southern Turkey. I haven't even mentioned the hundreds of hand-held Mistrals issued to personnel.

Yes I knows all about the CNG highly mobile and rapidly deployable Air Defence Systems. Air elements (fighters) are still required for air superiority though to ensure that these SAMs are not attacked with fire and forget HARM Air to Ground missiles (AGM-88 High Speed Anti Radiation) which guide themselves onto these SAMs by using their radar signature. HARM is a nightmare of radar controlled SAM installations.

Fighters are imperative otherwise the CNG is extremely vulnerable. The Air Defence structure is also vulnerable to HARM (AGM) attack which the TuAF does have in it's inventory.

Which brings me to my question. I understand that the CNG may lack certain logistics but are there any plans to purchase our own Russian Fighters?

To the best of my knowledge the answer is no. As you’ll already know buying and maintaining fighter jets, as well as pilot training, etc, is one of the most expensive military investments and in our case perhaps overkill.

However, the NG’s goal would be to reach the shores of Kyrenia and thus liberate the relatively small piece of territory under occupation, and hold onto it long enough while the international community, which will have stepped in by then, will make arrangements for necessary treaties.

If Turkey was to then decide to return in full force, even though she would’ve lost the first phase, there will be HUGE international repercussions, as this would constitute a SECOND invasion.

Of course, I haven't included Greece into it at all so far but that's the way I prefer it...


Very clear and concise explanation. And one I can fully understand considering the circumstances in Cyprus.

Lets just hope that a third party would consider providing these assets when needed instead of leaving us out to dry as was the case in 74.
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Postby Oracle » Sat May 10, 2008 4:37 pm

In the present climate, this would be a war which Turkey could not afford to even enter into.

Should the RoC storm the "TRNC" ... it would meet with opposition only from the 40,000 troops and weapons already stationed there ...... Turkey will not be sending reinforcements or back-up. GR! has shown the RoC is amply stocked to re-take the north.

Turkey will breath a sigh of relief, a blessing in disguise ..... the get out clause without loss of face. Turkey cannot contemplate open conflict with the EU ... let alone take over a whole EU country. Turkey will admit defeat, wondering why we took so long to object with force.

The battle has been raging for 34 years and Turkey has been spiritually, morally, and politically defeated with her main objective. Cyprus has become a potato that is too hot to handle. Stolen goods that she can do nothing with. Willing us to surgically remove the cancerous "TRNC" and remove the costly pain and misery of her biggest most recent mistake.

In time the "TRNC" will be another denied atrocity, to be forgotten. Revisionism revisited.

Turkey a little wiser, can re-build its image ... and perhaps acquire a new name!
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Postby CopperLine » Sat May 10, 2008 4:41 pm

This thread : boys fiddling around with their toys, or armchair generals or fantasy comic nerds ?

Feminist psychology definitely has the answer.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 10, 2008 4:53 pm

unitedwestand wrote:At least he is no fucking COMIC BOOK hero you moron. You and Pafidis think you are a couple of comic book characters. Get a life prick.

War with Turkey :roll: :roll: what a wanker.

Instead of getting upset and throwing insults why don't you spend half an hour on the net reading through the Turkish military's website, extracting some interesting information and countering our arguments?
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