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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 10, 2008 3:42 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Turkish Cypriots,

Do NOT believe the ignorant fools that mislead you into thinking that Turkey can defeat the RoC National Guard in 24, 48, or 72 hours even. Even if all these men (totaling 100,000 with reserves) and hundreds of equipment were to stand idle and do nothing there wouldn’t be enough time to destroy them in a week, not even two.

The Republic will NEVER accept underlying TC schemes so you can forget about the July 1974 Turkish cakewalk because it’s not going to happen. This time the RoC is well dug up and prepared for all eventualities including the Turkish air force.

By the time Turkey can turn a conflict around clearly in her favor, and assuming she is prepared to go all the way, there will be no TC community left to pick up any pieces as the “TRNC” will be saturated beyond recognition… make no mistake.


You would have about 6 minutes to cause as much damage as possible. After that you are well and truly fucked :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Six minutes is the time it will take for you to realize what's happening and empty your bladder down the inside of your thigh... :lol:

Consider this...

1. Turkey is only prepared to sacrifice so much for the Turkish Cypriots but definitely not everything or anywhere near it.

2. Turkey is not America but just another conventional army with greater numbers so do not overestimate her.

3. The National Guard’s radar and SAM systems can pick up Turkish fighter jets taking off from the southern-most Turkish airfields and engage them BEFORE they even reach Cyprus. Believe it.

4. The SA-11 GADFLY is just of the three types of S2A systems currently in use…(the other is the best... French Mistral)

http://www.asterpix.com/console/?avi=8021271

http://www.enemyforces.com/missiles/buk.htm


Lets hope we never have to put any of your theories to the test.

I still would put my money on Turkey to kick your ass like its never been kicked before :lol: :lol: :lol:

A question, and please ,honest answers only. If there was an all out war and the bookies were taking bets, who would you have your money on. Lets for arguments sake say Turkey was 2 to 1 on and RoC was 2 to 1.

Oh yeas, and there was also a bet at 5 to 1 that the war would end within 24 hours and Turkey as the victor.

The most important factor in such a confrontation would be how many men, equipment, and money, Turkey would be prepared to allocate for this cause.

To assume that she will allocate EVERYTHING is short-sighted as Turkey has many other fronts to deal with simultaneously including her very own internal fragile affairs.

Once we have established, if possible, with some level of accuracy Turkey’s REALISTIC allotment of men, equipment, and budget, then it becomes a lot easier to start making realistic predictions as to the longevity and outcome of such a conflict.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 3:54 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Turkish Cypriots,

Do NOT believe the ignorant fools that mislead you into thinking that Turkey can defeat the RoC National Guard in 24, 48, or 72 hours even. Even if all these men (totaling 100,000 with reserves) and hundreds of equipment were to stand idle and do nothing there wouldn’t be enough time to destroy them in a week, not even two.

The Republic will NEVER accept underlying TC schemes so you can forget about the July 1974 Turkish cakewalk because it’s not going to happen. This time the RoC is well dug up and prepared for all eventualities including the Turkish air force.

By the time Turkey can turn a conflict around clearly in her favor, and assuming she is prepared to go all the way, there will be no TC community left to pick up any pieces as the “TRNC” will be saturated beyond recognition… make no mistake.


You would have about 6 minutes to cause as much damage as possible. After that you are well and truly fucked :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Six minutes is the time it will take for you to realize what's happening and empty your bladder down the inside of your thigh... :lol:

Consider this...

1. Turkey is only prepared to sacrifice so much for the Turkish Cypriots but definitely not everything or anywhere near it.

2. Turkey is not America but just another conventional army with greater numbers so do not overestimate her.

3. The National Guard’s radar and SAM systems can pick up Turkish fighter jets taking off from the southern-most Turkish airfields and engage them BEFORE they even reach Cyprus. Believe it.

4. The SA-11 GADFLY is just of the three types of S2A systems currently in use…(the other is the best... French Mistral)

http://www.asterpix.com/console/?avi=8021271

http://www.enemyforces.com/missiles/buk.htm


Lets hope we never have to put any of your theories to the test.

I still would put my money on Turkey to kick your ass like its never been kicked before :lol: :lol: :lol:

A question, and please ,honest answers only. If there was an all out war and the bookies were taking bets, who would you have your money on. Lets for arguments sake say Turkey was 2 to 1 on and RoC was 2 to 1.

Oh yeas, and there was also a bet at 5 to 1 that the war would end within 24 hours and Turkey as the victor.


Do not kid yourself. Any war will last more than 24 hours and the CNG would not be crazy enough to start it unless certain conditions are satisfied.

The pre-requisites would be as follows:
1) The CNG being capable to maintain substantial air superiority through Air Defence or Air Elements from third parties aiding the CNG, and
2) Substantial naval elements to Cyprus North cutting the supply lines from Turkey and preventing re-inforcements from successfully reaching Cyprus and creating a few artificial reefs by sinking the Turkish Naval vessels that attempt to run the gauntlet. This would also be great for the Cypriot tourism industry in the future by catering to dive tourists that would be eager to explore the marine life around these Turkish Navy grave sites. :lol: :lol:
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Postby unitedwestand » Sat May 10, 2008 3:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Turkish Cypriots,

Do NOT believe the ignorant fools that mislead you into thinking that Turkey can defeat the RoC National Guard in 24, 48, or 72 hours even. Even if all these men (totaling 100,000 with reserves) and hundreds of equipment were to stand idle and do nothing there wouldn’t be enough time to destroy them in a week, not even two.

The Republic will NEVER accept underlying TC schemes so you can forget about the July 1974 Turkish cakewalk because it’s not going to happen. This time the RoC is well dug up and prepared for all eventualities including the Turkish air force.

By the time Turkey can turn a conflict around clearly in her favor, and assuming she is prepared to go all the way, there will be no TC community left to pick up any pieces as the “TRNC” will be saturated beyond recognition… make no mistake.


You would have about 6 minutes to cause as much damage as possible. After that you are well and truly fucked :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Six minutes is the time it will take for you to realize what's happening and empty your bladder down the inside of your thigh... :lol:

Consider this...

1. Turkey is only prepared to sacrifice so much for the Turkish Cypriots but definitely not everything or anywhere near it.

2. Turkey is not America but just another conventional army with greater numbers so do not overestimate her.

3. The National Guard’s radar and SAM systems can pick up Turkish fighter jets taking off from the southern-most Turkish airfields and engage them BEFORE they even reach Cyprus. Believe it.

4. The SA-11 GADFLY is just of the three types of S2A systems currently in use…(the other is the best... French Mistral)

http://www.asterpix.com/console/?avi=8021271

http://www.enemyforces.com/missiles/buk.htm


Lets hope we never have to put any of your theories to the test.

I still would put my money on Turkey to kick your ass like its never been kicked before :lol: :lol: :lol:

A question, and please ,honest answers only. If there was an all out war and the bookies were taking bets, who would you have your money on. Lets for arguments sake say Turkey was 2 to 1 on and RoC was 2 to 1.

Oh yeas, and there was also a bet at 5 to 1 that the war would end within 24 hours and Turkey as the victor.

The most important factor in such a confrontation would be how many men, equipment, and money, Turkey would be prepared to allocate for this cause.

To assume that she will allocate EVERYTHING is short-sighted as Turkey has many other fronts to deal with simultaneously including her very own internal fragile affairs.

Once we have established, if possible, with some level of accuracy Turkey’s REALISTIC allotment of men, equipment, and budget, then it becomes a lot easier to start making realistic predictions as to the longevity and outcome of such a conflict.


GR, even if Turkey was at war with the USA and Russia simultaneously it could still spare and deploy enough manpower and weaponry to deal with "the might" of the RoC :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 10, 2008 3:57 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
The most important factor in such a confrontation would be how many men, equipment, and money, Turkey would be prepared to allocate for this cause.

To assume that she will allocate EVERYTHING is short-sighted as Turkey has many other fronts to deal with simultaneously including her very own internal fragile affairs.

Once we have established, if possible, with some level of accuracy Turkey’s REALISTIC allotment of men, equipment, and budget, then it becomes a lot easier to start making realistic predictions as to the longevity and outcome of such a conflict.


GR, even if Turkey was at war with the USA and Russia simultaneously it could still spare and deploy enough manpower and weaponry to deal with "the might" of the RoC :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe you should let someone else have a go at this debate because military strategy doesn't seem to register well with your brain...
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Postby unitedwestand » Sat May 10, 2008 3:59 pm

Paphitis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Turkish Cypriots,

Do NOT believe the ignorant fools that mislead you into thinking that Turkey can defeat the RoC National Guard in 24, 48, or 72 hours even. Even if all these men (totaling 100,000 with reserves) and hundreds of equipment were to stand idle and do nothing there wouldn’t be enough time to destroy them in a week, not even two.

The Republic will NEVER accept underlying TC schemes so you can forget about the July 1974 Turkish cakewalk because it’s not going to happen. This time the RoC is well dug up and prepared for all eventualities including the Turkish air force.

By the time Turkey can turn a conflict around clearly in her favor, and assuming she is prepared to go all the way, there will be no TC community left to pick up any pieces as the “TRNC” will be saturated beyond recognition… make no mistake.


You would have about 6 minutes to cause as much damage as possible. After that you are well and truly fucked :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Six minutes is the time it will take for you to realize what's happening and empty your bladder down the inside of your thigh... :lol:

Consider this...

1. Turkey is only prepared to sacrifice so much for the Turkish Cypriots but definitely not everything or anywhere near it.

2. Turkey is not America but just another conventional army with greater numbers so do not overestimate her.

3. The National Guard’s radar and SAM systems can pick up Turkish fighter jets taking off from the southern-most Turkish airfields and engage them BEFORE they even reach Cyprus. Believe it.

4. The SA-11 GADFLY is just of the three types of S2A systems currently in use…(the other is the best... French Mistral)

http://www.asterpix.com/console/?avi=8021271

http://www.enemyforces.com/missiles/buk.htm


Lets hope we never have to put any of your theories to the test.

I still would put my money on Turkey to kick your ass like its never been kicked before :lol: :lol: :lol:

A question, and please ,honest answers only. If there was an all out war and the bookies were taking bets, who would you have your money on. Lets for arguments sake say Turkey was 2 to 1 on and RoC was 2 to 1.

Oh yeas, and there was also a bet at 5 to 1 that the war would end within 24 hours and Turkey as the victor.


Do not kid yourself. Any war will last more than 24 hours and the CNG would not be crazy enough to start it unless certain conditions are satisfied.

The pre-requisites would be as follows:
1) The CNG being capable to maintain substantial air superiority through Air Defence or Air Elements from third parties aiding the CNG, and
2) Substantial naval elements to Cyprus North cutting the supply lines from Turkey and preventing re-inforcements from successfully reaching Cyprus and creating a few artificial reefs by sinking the Turkish Naval vessels that attempt to run the gauntlet. This would also be great for the Cypriot tourism industry in the future by catering to dive tourists that would be eager to explore the marine life around these Turkish Navy grave sites. :lol: :lol:


You think you are writing a blockbuster movie script my friend. If only wars were won on paper :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You and GR single handedly have won the war already :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 4:01 pm

So GR, are there any plans to buy 6-12 Russian Fighters? This would be a great Balance of Power equaliser.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 4:04 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Turkish Cypriots,

Do NOT believe the ignorant fools that mislead you into thinking that Turkey can defeat the RoC National Guard in 24, 48, or 72 hours even. Even if all these men (totaling 100,000 with reserves) and hundreds of equipment were to stand idle and do nothing there wouldn’t be enough time to destroy them in a week, not even two.

The Republic will NEVER accept underlying TC schemes so you can forget about the July 1974 Turkish cakewalk because it’s not going to happen. This time the RoC is well dug up and prepared for all eventualities including the Turkish air force.

By the time Turkey can turn a conflict around clearly in her favor, and assuming she is prepared to go all the way, there will be no TC community left to pick up any pieces as the “TRNC” will be saturated beyond recognition… make no mistake.


You would have about 6 minutes to cause as much damage as possible. After that you are well and truly fucked :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Six minutes is the time it will take for you to realize what's happening and empty your bladder down the inside of your thigh... :lol:

Consider this...

1. Turkey is only prepared to sacrifice so much for the Turkish Cypriots but definitely not everything or anywhere near it.

2. Turkey is not America but just another conventional army with greater numbers so do not overestimate her.

3. The National Guard’s radar and SAM systems can pick up Turkish fighter jets taking off from the southern-most Turkish airfields and engage them BEFORE they even reach Cyprus. Believe it.

4. The SA-11 GADFLY is just of the three types of S2A systems currently in use…(the other is the best... French Mistral)

http://www.asterpix.com/console/?avi=8021271

http://www.enemyforces.com/missiles/buk.htm


Lets hope we never have to put any of your theories to the test.

I still would put my money on Turkey to kick your ass like its never been kicked before :lol: :lol: :lol:

A question, and please ,honest answers only. If there was an all out war and the bookies were taking bets, who would you have your money on. Lets for arguments sake say Turkey was 2 to 1 on and RoC was 2 to 1.

Oh yeas, and there was also a bet at 5 to 1 that the war would end within 24 hours and Turkey as the victor.


Do not kid yourself. Any war will last more than 24 hours and the CNG would not be crazy enough to start it unless certain conditions are satisfied.

The pre-requisites would be as follows:
1) The CNG being capable to maintain substantial air superiority through Air Defence or Air Elements from third parties aiding the CNG, and
2) Substantial naval elements to Cyprus North cutting the supply lines from Turkey and preventing re-inforcements from successfully reaching Cyprus and creating a few artificial reefs by sinking the Turkish Naval vessels that attempt to run the gauntlet. This would also be great for the Cypriot tourism industry in the future by catering to dive tourists that would be eager to explore the marine life around these Turkish Navy grave sites. :lol: :lol:


You think you are writing a blockbuster movie script my friend. If only wars were won on paper :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You and GR single handedly have won the war already :lol: :lol: :lol:


As I said earlier VP. You would do well to not underestimate your adversary. You may well be in shock to one day awaken into oblivion!

I do not need to discuss the finer points of military strategy with you as you clearly do not no what you are talking about.
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Postby unitedwestand » Sat May 10, 2008 4:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
The most important factor in such a confrontation would be how many men, equipment, and money, Turkey would be prepared to allocate for this cause.

To assume that she will allocate EVERYTHING is short-sighted as Turkey has many other fronts to deal with simultaneously including her very own internal fragile affairs.

Once we have established, if possible, with some level of accuracy Turkey’s REALISTIC allotment of men, equipment, and budget, then it becomes a lot easier to start making realistic predictions as to the longevity and outcome of such a conflict.


GR, even if Turkey was at war with the USA and Russia simultaneously it could still spare and deploy enough manpower and weaponry to deal with "the might" of the RoC :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe you should let someone else have a go at this debate because military strategy doesn't seem to register well with your brain...


Sorry GR I disagree, Its you that don't have a clue and you go into a debate of war between Turkey and RoC. For Gods sake are you that demented that you could even contemplate the possibility of and all out war with Turkey?

This is like Papdopulos offering Mike Tyson 10 rounds in the ring. Who would take such a challenge seriously?
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Postby unitedwestand » Sat May 10, 2008 4:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOAxNjlUurw

Enjoy, bloody dreamers. You think you are authority on the subject of warfare? Even if you had the weaponry you haven't got the fucking balls.

If we didn't know you we may fear you, but for fucks sake we know you better than you know yourselves, bunch of fucking chickens, You have tanks, but they only have reverse gears.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat May 10, 2008 4:11 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
The most important factor in such a confrontation would be how many men, equipment, and money, Turkey would be prepared to allocate for this cause.

To assume that she will allocate EVERYTHING is short-sighted as Turkey has many other fronts to deal with simultaneously including her very own internal fragile affairs.

Once we have established, if possible, with some level of accuracy Turkey’s REALISTIC allotment of men, equipment, and budget, then it becomes a lot easier to start making realistic predictions as to the longevity and outcome of such a conflict.


GR, even if Turkey was at war with the USA and Russia simultaneously it could still spare and deploy enough manpower and weaponry to deal with "the might" of the RoC :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe you should let someone else have a go at this debate because military strategy doesn't seem to register well with your brain...


Sorry GR I disagree, Its you that don't have a clue and you go into a debate of war between Turkey and RoC. For Gods sake are you that demented that you could even contemplate the possibility of and all out war with Turkey?

This is like Papdopulos offering Mike Tyson 10 rounds in the ring. Who would take such a challenge seriously?


All it takes is one blow at the right time by a mere push of a button and your Turkish Army in Cyprus is cactus before they have even woken up to take a crap! :lol:
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