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[Paphitis]

Forget the adrenalin rush , concentrate for a few moments on the blood rush , the pain and the suffering , our young men dying in a war that can never achieve the desired result , this result is the liberation of the occupied lands , defeat of Turkey militarily and dealing with our T/C compatriots .

So when is one’s homeland worth dying for Miltiades? When the odds are stacked up in one’s favor?

Will reply shortly , just dealing with some hooligans at the moment !!

Umit, please tell me you are still in Cyprus and not in the UK on some special Teletubbie Gurkhas Crack Op at Miltiades house!

I never lived in the UK Bafidi. At least I ain't some dickhead who thinks that a military option is even thinkable. Miltiades doesn't talk shit like you two, he examines the facts and talks about reconciliaton. He see's that gaining trust from the TC's is the only way out of this mess . I actually think he is sincere with his intensions even if I don't agree with everything he says. For this reason I and many other TC's on this forum respect him a whole lot more than you two clowns.

One cage successfully rattled!

[Paphitis]

Amongst TC's , people from the villages around Paphos are known to be a bit thick and extremely stingy.

..... Yeah, there used to be a lot of TCs in Paphos when that rumour first started ...... and know there are mostly Brits.

Would you say it's true for GC's?

That rumour ceased in 1974.

[Paphitis]

Umit asks:

"If the Greeks are so full of themselves why don't shoot down every plane that enters their so called airspace?"

it is called rules of engagement, a whole set of procedures that must be followed to ensure that no civilian plane is shot down by mistake and that the violating plane is in fact armed and hostile. So a visual check must be made, the plane signaled to get out etc etc.

The only case of a deliberate downing I recall is of a Turkish reconnaissance equipped F-16 within Greek territory, over eastern Crete, a few years back and the pilot was taken in custody, in hospital actually, and it happened in the 90s. The incident was extensivly covered in the media although it was said to have been an accident.

Nikitas for a few years now all Turkish jets flying in the Aegean are unarmed. I personally do not think that many tiny land masses which a jet flys over in a second should grant the greeks the right of having the airspace over the entire aegean. A jet flying over Crete is provocative and I don't support it. But a jet flying over the tiny islands right under the nose of Turkey is her right in my opinion of course.

Now that is a load of rubbish. Athens FIR as set by ICAO covers the Aegean and the Greek Islands are controlled CTRs owned by Greece. You can not be serious to suggest that the airspace over the Greek Islands is not Greek and Turkey has the right to fly over them because they are close to Turkey.

And just because it is Athens FIR, does not mean that Turkish aircraft can not enter the airspace. All that is required is to report position to allow Athens FIR to facilitate seperation minimas and maintain safety and traffic seperation standards. To do otherwise will risk a possible mid air collision, apart from being a violation of International Law!

[bilako22]

Why partition is out of the question…


The Republic of Cyprus’ biggest investment has been in anti-partition tools…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8r29f2N ... re=related

http://www.greekmilitary.net/CypriotTroops.htm

http://www.greekmilitary.net/CypriotAFV.htm

http://www.greekmilitary.net/CypriotMBT.htm

http://www.greekmilitary.net/CypriotArtillery.htm

http://www.greekmilitary.net/CypriotAirforce.htm


Turkish Cypriots should PRAY to all the Gods, including Krishna, that the Gambari agreements don’t fail, lest operation “Free Cyprus” goes from an “if” to a “when”…

GR's free wallpaper gift to all partitionists...

With the RoC spending so much an sophisticated equipment is further proof that war can never be ruled out if all other peaceful measures fail.

Our borders finish 12 nm north of Kyrenia and Apostolos Andreas, and we reserve the right to liberate OUR lands when the balance of power swings our way.

I guess you will be right at the front facing the Turks.

[bilako22]

Pah another Piratis repackaged, if everyone in Turkey spat your way you would think its a tsunami, haven't you learned anything in Çanakkale...

You are just going to give excuses to Turkey to take the rest of the island, cause enormous amounts of bloodshed to your own people and all for what?

Who said anything about Çanakkale? You were defending your lands here just as we have the right to defend and liberate our land here in Cyprus. And this land is inclusive of Kyrenia and Apostolos Andreas.

Canakkale was originally Greek land until the Turks came and stole it .

[Get Real!]

Pah another Piratis repackaged, if everyone in Turkey spat your way you would think its a tsunami, haven't you learned anything in Çanakkale...

You are just going to give excuses to Turkey to take the rest of the island, cause enormous amounts of bloodshed to your own people and all for what?

Who said anything about Çanakkale? You were defending your lands here just as we have the right to defend and liberate our land here in Cyprus. And this land is inclusive of Kyrenia and Apostolos Andreas.

Canakkale was originally Greek land until the Turks came and stole it .

So tell us Bilako... have you setup the lovely desktop background that unkie GR has gifted you?

[bilako22]

Pah another Piratis repackaged, if everyone in Turkey spat your way you would think its a tsunami, haven't you learned anything in Çanakkale...

You are just going to give excuses to Turkey to take the rest of the island, cause enormous amounts of bloodshed to your own people and all for what?

Who said anything about Çanakkale? You were defending your lands here just as we have the right to defend and liberate our land here in Cyprus. And this land is inclusive of Kyrenia and Apostolos Andreas.

Canakkale was originally Greek land until the Turks came and stole it .

So tell us Bilako... have you setup the lovely desktop background that unkie GR has gifted you?

How you nothing to say about Canakkele and fighting at the front against the Turks . Are you the second reincarnation of Grivas?

[Nikitas]

But is not Canakkele an example of what is being discussed here? A case where an inspired leader managed to turn defeat into victory? The first phase of the war went very badly for the Turkish army and the Greek generals for some reason which is even today subject to debate decided to advance to the heart of Asia Minor. After they bit more than they could chew they were defeated. A case of not having an end game in mind before they embarked on a campaign. In the present situation the parallel would be Turkey, which seems to have no end goal in mind.

[shahmaran]

The Greeks were in Çanakkale too?

I thought that was a different war, Çanakkale was fought between the British, French, Australians, New Zealand and India vs Turkey and I don't think anyone managed to even get onto Çanakkale alive let alone travelling further down.

The Greeks came in another war shortly after Çanakkale along with the British, French, Armenia and Italy which was of course another serious defeat.

Turks 2 - West 0

[Nikitas]

RIght, I confused Canakkale with Smyrni.

They actually did land and the fight was a land fight first world war style with trenches etc. I note your score keeping leaves out the Balkan wars, convenient but not wise. If you include those it might look more like West 10- Turkey 2. It is the way of decaying empires, they all go through the down phase.