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[miltiades]

And you have people such as Bir , Kikapu , Halil , Yes Halil , Iceman YOU and many many more .The inclusion of the above is indicative of the wishes of those mentioned for a peaceful solution to the Cyprob.

[halil]

And you have people such as Bir , Kikapu , Halil , Yes Halil , Iceman YOU and many many more .The inclusion of the above is indicative of the wishes of those mentioned for a peaceful solution to the Cyprob.

Dear friend Miltiades ,
what we are saying :WHEN THE DOG BARKİNG DO NOT SCARE FROM THAT DOG

They are less than your fingers !

[miltiades]

I mentioned before on a few occasions the T/C member of my extended family , everyone calls him John his real name is Ertouan , I'm not certain of the correct spelling of his T/C name .
He has a little girl who is disabled about 12 or 13 years old that he adores and does so much for her , she in turn returns his love and devotion by adoring him and worshipping him. We meet now and again and this guy brinks tears to my eyes every time. He is a proud T/C remorseful that in his younger days while in Cyprus became indoctrinated , just as I was , in exhibiting traits of antipathy towards his fellow Cypriots. We now both see how much we both have in common, his love and care for his disabled little girl never seizes to amaze me , he cares so much and cant do enough for this wretched child . The moral of the story ? We are all human beings first , Cypriots second , G/Cs and T/Cs third . All of us want a peaceful solution , no more killings , no more orphans and widows ! Lets forget how much damage we can do to Turkey and how much Turkey can do to us , the end result would still amount to NO SOLUTION , many graves and too many tears . I do not want my grandchildren to grow up without a daddy ( he is a regular , for more than 12 years in the National Guard ) and with an uncertain future .

[denizaksulu]

It is not only laughable but damn right stupid to suggest that there is even the slightest possibility of a war and even more stupid to suggest that Turkey can be defeated . Heavy casualties can be inflicted I agree but what of the casualties suffered by the Cypriots !
We need a war like we need a hole in our head !!

Given your ZERO experience with anything military, physical or academic, what’s the probability that your opinion is worth reading?

This what you posted !!!
""""Another option for the RoC would be the hiring of professional armies to assist in conjunction with the National Guard in the removal of the enemy from Cypriot soil such as Blackwater…"""

First of all you know absolutely nothing either about my military knowledge or my academic background , in such situations one judges by ones comments and opinions. On the face of you assertion that Cyprus , along with.... Blackwater , can take on and presumably defeat Turkey otherwise it would be pointless to challenge Turkey , I estimate your overall knowledge of polemics to be at the same level as that currently of the Iraqi suicide bombers. I'm rather surprised that you have not indicated that along with blackwater we do not entice just a small fraction of the suicide bombers , they would not after all care too much about who they kill.
In short GR you are talking from your back passage , your talking dangerously stupidly and irresponsibly.
Can I just ask how much you would pay the mercenaries and how will you handle these predominantly USA soldiers !!!
What a Plonker !!
Can any one possibly imagine the President of the ROC stating such objectives as GR has done. The answer of course is a definite NO !!

You are forever fascinated at my suggestion of the existence of “Army’s for hire” that can be used in conjunction with one’s own military… now comes the million dollar question:

What exactly is it you’re so fascinated about? That they exist? That they may work closely with those that pay for them? That they’re all allegedly American?

Go on spill the beans...

GR , I'm not only fascinated but may I also add flabbergasted that an individual that thrives on "self promotion " can suggest that Cyprus can negotiate the military assistance of an American Mercenary Unit in order the a war can be initiated against Turkey and won !! I hate having to severely reprimand anyone of your age , your I believe in your early forties going on your late teens . What comics are you still reading for crying out loud , unless of course your poking fun at me by these ludicrous suggestions.
NO GR , Only one way to defeat Turkey . Negotiate and get the T/Cs on the side of reason and peace , not antagonise and project a retarded image.
So these mercenaries , a bit like my old mate Colonel Callan ( Kostas Georgiou ) of the Angolan war fiasco , will rush to the aid of little old Cyprus if we pay them enough !!!
I m not going to call you a Plonker from now on , but will instead baptise you in memory of my old mate as Colonel Marios , or is it Akis , or may be Pambos , I'm sure one of these names is yours !!! Till then is Colonel GR !!!!

I object to this Promotion. From what I know, instead he should be demoted.

[Bill]

Speaking with some experience with Cypriot and Greek forces. It would be a massacre. Greek planes would not get off the ground and Cyprus would be over run in 48 hours.
The British would remain in bases and the EU would react after 72 hours. I fear the Turkish army are extrmely well trained and armed for any military strike. If attacked first they would show little or no mercy.

Now there's the words of sense and reason.

Why go down the road of losing everything when there's a chance to get a bit of the occupied north back.

Bill

[Oracle]

Speaking with some experience with Cypriot and Greek forces. It would be a massacre. Greek planes would not get off the ground and Cyprus would be over run in 48 hours.
The British would remain in bases and the EU would react after 72 hours. I fear the Turkish army are extrmely well trained and armed for any military strike. If attacked first they would show little or no mercy.

Now there's the words of sense and reason.

Why go down the road of losing everything when there's a chance to get a bit of the occupied north back.

Bill

Good grief do I have to teach you everything about military preparation!

The EU would already have stationed weapons and men on Cyprus and in Greece etc ... before they issue the demand for Turkey to withdraw .... so they don't need 72 hours ... as they will be already stationed ready for immediate attack, if Turkey dares to say NO!

[Bill]

Hmm ~ you have those every thing is wonderful glasses on again.

But don't worry after your initial assault and the inevitable event of being over run by Turkish troops your EU fellow countries will help with food and tents for the displaced ( sounds familiar ) and provide means of escape for foreign passport holders ~~ so at least you would be ok when you wave your very noticeable British passport in the air when claiming your flight out and of course failing to mention that you have been super critical of the British in the past .

You live in cuckoo land if you think the EU will support you in an attack on the north let alone put weapons and troops on the island to help you .

My god woman you do speak rubbish at times ~~ well most of the time really.

Turkey will annialate the ROC and you will end up with nothing ~ Turkey will get what it's always wanted and that's the whole of Cyprus .

Before Greece come to help ( if they help ) everything will be over and the ROC will be lost for ever and you will be living under Turkish rule.

Do you really want that


Bill

[denizaksulu]

Hmm ~ you have those every thing is wonderful glasses on again.

But don't worry after your initial assault and the inevitable event of being over run your EU fellow countries will help with food and tents for the displaced ( sounds familiar ) and provide means of escape for foreign passport holders ~~ so at least you would be ok when you wave your very noticeable British passport in the air when claiming your flight out and of course failing to mention that you have been super critical of the British in the past .

You live in cuckoo land if you think the EU will support you in an attack on the north let alone put weapons and troops on the island to help you .

My god woman you do speak rubbish at times ~~ well most of the time really.

Turkey will annialate the ROC and you will end up with nothing ~ Turkey will get what it's always wanted and that's the whole of Cyprus .

Before Greece come to help ( if they help ) everything will be over and the ROC will be lost for ever and you will be living under Turkish rule.
Bill

Providing ofcourse, Halil does not find her first.

[Oracle]

The last thing I advocate is war ... precisely because it will be my friends and relatives that would suffer the most .... for me, I've been there and I would relish revenge, but I hope to take that desire to my grave and not harm anyone!

Which is why Turkey must be made to realise that they would not stand a chance against an EU that would be flexing for its first joint major conflict.

As I said, they will be issuing a troops-withdrawal notice ... after/during military build-up ..... so Turkey will have long enough to realise they mean business.

And Bill, turn the telescope the right way ....

[denizaksulu]

The last thing I advocate is war ... precisely because it will be my friends and relatives that would suffer the most .... for me, I've been there and I would relish revenge, but I hope to take that desire to my grave and not harm anyone!

Which is why Turkey must be made to realise that they would not stand a chance against an EU that would be flexing for its first joint major conflict.

As I said, they will be issuing a troops-withdrawal notice ... after/during military build-up ..... so Turkey will have long enough to realise they mean business.

And Bill, turn the telescope the right way ....

In war we ALL suffer.