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[simonwjones]

Hi Conor my friend. Hello Bill and all other supporters!

Well what can one say as regards Conor's case?

Oracle - hmmm hope you looked in the dictionary before choosing your name! You are supposed to give wise counsel and are also meant to be prophetic. Hmmm pity you couldn't prophesise our responses to your injurious posting.

Also it is a pity that when you wrote "he could look after himself" yes he could have except that three onto one doesn't go, not in my book anyway. What cowards they were to ambush the way they did. We were there, where were you?

Conor and his family are personal friends of ours and as such we know [and believe me WE DO know the full story, both sides], whereas you only read into what you want to and totally ignore the salient facts of his case.

We also have been suffering at the hands of unscrupulous lawyers, builders landowners who have taken our money and not delivered. How many more of us are there? Let me tell you there are so many, some we know and some so intimidated by these lawless individuals, we don't as they are too frightened to speak out.

It is deplorable that a Cypriot lawyer encouraged a British woman to openly break the law, albeit with her knowledge, and are now openly supporting her and the illegal antics of Cypriot thugs.

It is a fact that it is the Cypriot people who are so sympathetic both to Conor and ourselves and as stated, to the many others still suffering. These lawless thugs, lawyers, builders, developers have brought nothing but shame and embarrassment to your beautiful country. I am so amazed that you seem to openly support them, are you perhaps one of them or closely related to them????

Like Conor we are cash buyers and these people were so quick to take our hard earned cash. We, unlike these people, are not in debt to banks or lending societies and panicking to make payments. We are trying to be patient and let the courts and official bodies help us but at times we find we are just dealing with the same contemptible, unscrupulous people we have been dealing with since all these sorry stories began.

As with Conor we have been lucky enough to find a decent lawyer who is horrified at our predicament and the way HIS people have treated us. He is doing his damndest to get through the system and make things as right for us as he can. Sadly this is not the case with hundreds of others.

You say we should do things in the right way. OK, we see the lawyers, have searches done, pay stage payments, check Land Registry entries for our protection, have legal contracts drawn up. Now where have we gone wrong???? We have brought massive employment to this island, you welcome us with open arms and promises, we trust you and become friends with you. BUT the friendship seems to stop when you can get no more money out of us. This is not indicative of the Cypriot people as a whole is it? Maybe it is your way but certainly not your countrymen's way.

Of course we know you are fighting for your rights as a nation and we are all well aware of it and are very supportive. In fact we decry those British who purchase in the North, at least i do and am not afraid to say it. Don't punish us all. I know if these things were happening to Cypriots in the UK they would lobby just about anyone they could to get justice. This is what we are doing. We need help not your callous, contemptible remarks.

I just hope you have a heart and never have a British neighbour who has suffered to get their home.

I myself had many Cypriot friends in the UK [no i am not Cypriot related] and always, without fail, they were made welcome. Indeed many Cypriots are doing very well in the UK and it would not occur to people to rip them off in the same way that we have been over here.

I love Cyprus and the Cypriot people but i do not like thieves and liars. I know Conor and his family feel the same.

Your comments are not welcome


di-di

Here here di-di I agree with you 100% here. I find it difficult to understand how some people can even write nasty or dispicable things like we have seen here. They are horrible people and I am ashamed to breath the same air as them.

I wish you both all the luck in the World.

Are you going to name and shame your developer?

[Johnson&Johnson]

di-di

some good points, some not so good

for sure we are all sympathetic of conor and his problem. he seems like a decent, educated chap, and despite some harsh treatment over here, has kept things in perspective and not degenerated into racist rants about the cypriots on the whole. and while my personal opinion is, that anyone who buys off-plan is rather foolish, i understand that brits like these types of high-stress adventures. good for them. its a bit like swimming in the sea: a wilderness experience, and if a shark should snatch you up in it's jaws, then this is a risk you must accept.

however some of your comments strike a raw nerve. we cypriots also suffered in the hands of the british, as immigrants there, when they exploited and abused us. i can tell you this from first hand experience.

oh yes, we were welcomed with open arms when we worked cheaply in the factories and on the underground and garment sweatshops, but once we made some money and became businessmen, the attitudes changed.

however this did not deter us. we had respect for our often abusive hosts. we buckled under and assimilated. we learnt the language, sent our kids to english-speaking schools, and did not continously criticize.

the british in cyprus are not like this at all. they do not learn greek, they live in expat enclaves (ghettoes) and they criticize their hosts at every turn.

and what do the british REALLY bring to cyprus ? their pathetic pensions, which they spend on keo and dogfood. house price inflation, which prices local buyers out of the market, dogshit on the streets, and crime. also a lot of sunburn and bad tattoos.

I am not against the brits coming here, but I hate this type of attitude they have, that we locals have to kiss their feet and pander to them.

as a famous band once sang;

'my beach, my wave, my girl so f@ck you'

sorry to be harsh.

[halil]

i belive most of the Cypriots can support this . Don't take notice of this old lady . This is the basic sample of the Cyprus problem too . At the end we will win . Peace and respect will win . I bet you can win your case . From the net i read to many comments about your case .most of them (99%) supports u . go on and don't afraid .

[purdey]

I take great offence at some of your remarks JJ. My parents are pensioners in Cyprus, they speak fluent Greek and have employed hundreds of Cypriots over the 65 years they have lived and worked in Cyprus.They do not drink Keo, have a dog, sunbathe, have tattoos or ask for English breakfast in a village taverna.
They also encouraged their family to invest in Cyprus as well as in the UK, me included. They as I do, do not live in Ex Pat enclaves but do socialise with the Ex Pat community at times who have in some cases also invested heavilly in Cyprus.
We do not expect to be treated any differently to any other person in Cyprus, we work hard invest in Cyprus and enjoy our life.We respect local customs and our Cypriot neighbors, yes we moan on occassion, do you not ?
We want no recognition for what we have invested in Cyprus, no pats on the back, we just want to get on with our lives.
If people want to have a go, please pluck up the courage and do it face to face and one on one...

[Johnson&Johnson]

I make no apologies to anyone

Please remember that colonialism ended a long time ago

Perhaps I have a chip on my shoulder. I do not like the hordes of british who have come here recently, i find most of them uncouth, uneducated and low class. i dont like it that they criticize me and my people on cyprus living and all the other forums, and in newspapers etc, and are continously treating us like retarded f*ckwits.

no cyprus is not perfect, but neither is england. they should remember that.

the ones who live quietly, respect us and try to learn a bit of greek are very welcome. but all those moaners and whingers can bugger off back to where they came from.

cyprus survived without them before, we can do so again

[Johnson&Johnson]

p.s do they drink carlsberg then ?

[simonwjones]

J&J your are putting us Brits into one cateogory which is totally in-correct. Yes Brits, who come on holiday, may have tatoos, drink Keo but come all Expats? I don't think so. I also find this very offensive too. Apologise or not I really dont care but I am not an expat but do have property in Cyprus. I decided to purchase away from built up/tourist areas to get away from the kind of Brit you are talking about and I certainly do not have tatoos. I plan to move over there one day. You are very narrow minded and need to leave your little box

I would like to ask you a question, why the nickname? Hardly a traditional Cypriot name is it!

Isnt Johnson an English name

[simonwjones]

but all those moaners and whingers can bugger off back to where they came from.

Who is moaning and whinging now?

[purdey]

They don't drink. Cyprus and the CTO are the one's you should be lambasting, offering cheap deals, building low cost holiday centres and attracting what you refer to as low class.
Yes the British whinge, it is a national pastime, but to lump all in the same category does seem over the top.
I have learnt one thing from this forum, that no matter how well you know Cyprus, speak the language, invest in the economy, treat people how you expect to be treated, you are still a foreigner..at worst English.

[simonwjones]

They don't drink. Cyprus and the CTO are the one's you should be lambasting, offering cheap deals, building low cost holiday centres and attracting what you refer to as low class.
Yes the British whinge, it is a national pastime, but to lump all in the same category does seem over the top.
I have learnt one thing from this forum, that no matter how well you know Cyprus, speak the language, invest in the economy, treat people how you expect to be treated, you are still a foreigner..at worst English.

True, this little cry baby also needs to moan at the Property Developers and Real Estate Agents who promote their properties to the British.

Perhaps J&J should have a demonstration through Paphos - Developers stop selling homes to the Brits!!!