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[Oracle]

I don't approve of Conor's methods ..... two wrongs do not make a right.


He is obviously well able to look after himself, and not some naive innocent, as his massive campaign has proven.

In which case I would think, he was either a phenomenal idiot for not taking the right safeguards in the first place or had some ulterior interests which he does not divulge!

My main advice was for him to use Lawyers effectively .... and above all put this incident in perspective when the President who is going to address the case for 200,000 refugees and loss of nearly half our island, is now going to become part of his next disruptive campaign ....

Just as you all wish to pass on your sympathies and capitalist preoccupations ... I too wish to voice what I think is of paramount importance to me ... do things the right way, in the first place!

[simonwjones]

I don't approve of Conor's methods ..... two wrongs do not make a right.


He is obviously well able to look after himself, and not some naive innocent, as his massive campaign has proven.

In which case I would think, he was either a phenomenal idiot for not taking the right safeguards in the first place or had some ulterior interests which he does not divulge!

My main advice was for him to use Lawyers effectively .... and above all put this incident in perspective when the President who is going to address the case for 200,000 refugees and loss of nearly half our island, is now going to become part of his next disruptive campaign ....

Just as you all wish to pass on your sympathies and capitalist preoccupations ... I too wish to voice what I think is of paramount importance to me ... do things the right way, in the first place!

Your talking about something you know nothing about

[halil]

Hi all,

I’m Conor from the LyingBuilder website.
President Christofias will address the Cypriot Community at 3pm 18th May Alexandra Palace London.

We will be there to protest the handling of our case and to raise awareness of property problems suffered in Cyprus. Problems range from the non-issuing of title deeds, structural faults, illegal building and developers extorting immovable property tax and transfer fees.

In my particular horror the Minister of Interior told the media “an Investigating Officer has already been appointed” That was in August 2007! Since then I’ve been brutally beaten for just looking at my house from the roadside in Frenaros. Every month my lawyer Yiannos Georgiades chases the authorities for a criminal investigation into the reselling of my house and every month it’s the same. It’s stuck at the local level.

In the latest twist in my saga a lawyer who once represented us in the case is now representing the opposition. I will of course report this matter to the attorney general for disciplinary proceedings but as I have little faith in the speed of that investigation I have exposed the lawyer myself on my website.

If you have retired to Cyprus and are concerned that your children will inherit the problems of your contract like the non-issuing of your title deeds, then why not ask them to join us. It’s not just ex-pats that are suffering. I’m contacted all the time from the Greek Cypriot community who are disgusted with the way developers and lawyers are behaving and the bad reputation they are giving the island we all love. If you can be represented in London then please get in touch.

Kind Regards

Conor O’Dwyer

Good luck sir .

i hope u can get good results from your demonstration .

[purdey]

I agree with J&J, it still amazes me how many people run the risk of buying off plan. It is a risky business and time scales are rarely met.

Simon, I believe you went through Interlink, who work on the same basis as most off plan companies, but as they build and resale worldwide they have the financial clout to back up their projects.
As for Conor, good luck to you, you are well within your rights to protest.

[DT.]

I agree with J&J, it still amazes me how many people run the risk of buying off plan. It is a risky business and time scales are rarely met.

Simon, I believe you went through Interlink, who work on the same basis as most off plan companies, but as they build and resale worldwide they have the financial clout to back up their projects.
As for Conor, good luck to you, you are well within your rights to protest.

No one said hes not within his rights...what good would itd o to demonstrate against Christofias? DO you think he'll call up Stefanou and instruct him to inform Chrysostomides to sent a platoon of MMAΔ out to arrest and severely beat up the builders?

[purdey]

AND... maybe our friend is known to the President, he seems to have received enough publicity in Cyprus and the UK.
If you don't stand up and speak who will ever take notice ?

[Oracle]

This is the first time President Christofias is going to talk to his people ,a lot of whom were ethnically cleansed from their homes by the Turks ... he will no doubt also be addressing the loss of nearly half our island .... if Conor truly believes he is worth much more (through his stupidity) .... than all these innocent people put together ... then go and disrupt .... I would not stop you; but you would not have my support, nor would you have the support of other people who will rightly see it as selfish sabotage ... (hence the support from the likes of halil) .....

I don't bandwagon and am fearful to jump to conclusions when we only hear from the one party, who may well have many hidden agendas that he is selectively not divulging, as he seems an expert at self-promotion.

[Conor]

Conor, I can't see how holding up a banner while the president is going by will help and your time may be better spent here... The ministry of Commerce and Industry has a Consumer Protection Service…

Consumer Protection Centres

The Service operates consumer protection centres in the major towns on the island. The consumers may apply at these centres in order to obtain information or to submit a complaint.

For further information call

“The consumers line” 1429 (toll free telephone number)

or postal address
Competition and Consumer Protection Service
Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism
1421 Nicosia, Cyprus

fax number: ++ 00357 22375120

http://www.mcit.gov.cy/mcit/mcit.nsf/dm ... enDocument

Hi Thanks for all this information.
Like most victims all authorities in Cyprus know of our case but it all comes down to the LOCAL police doing their job.

Letters for a CRIMINAL investigation go out frequently to

Attorney General of the Republic
Ministry of Justice and Public Order
Police Headquarters, Department C
Famagusta district Attorney’s Office
Minister of Trade / Industry & Tourism
Minister of Internal Affairs

I will publish all these letters soon on my website but as they name specific officials and police officers now is not the right time.
I will show here the tone that my lawyer has against my injustice:-

Honourable Sir,

I hereby refer to the above matter and, further to our previous correspondence, our client has once again been assaulted by Messrs. Karayiannas.

The matter has taken on very serious dimensions, and is having a snowball effect due the reactions of various organised groups, both in Cyprus as well as abroad, in such a manner that it is having a negative effect on Cyprus’ good name.

I wish to remind you that the assault of my client is connected to the purchase of a property which he himself made from Messrs. Karayiannas, with the aim of him and his family settling on our island.

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I believe that this matter as a whole is very serious and all necessary drastic measures should be taken against all those who have committed crimes in the relation to the purchase of the aforesaid property and the assault on the aforesaid Buyer (my client) so that no false impressions are given abroad, particularly in England, a market upon which we rely both for our tourism as well as for the sale of property.

I think that it is important for us to arrange a meeting together immediately so that I can explain to you the seriousness of the matter in more detail and to what extent there have been reactions abroad. I am willing to provide any assistance so that this matter may be regarded as an isolated incident so that faith will be restored in our island with regard to the proper administration of justice and the fact that it is safe for someone to buy a property in Cyprus.

THIS IS AS FAR AS YOU GET!!

As I said in my original post
"Every month my lawyer Yiannos Georgiades chases the authorities for a criminal investigation into the reselling of my house and every month it’s the same. It’s stuck at the local level."

Obviously I also agree now with the comments in buying off plan.

I hope you can understand that I will only be able to reply once a day till the demonstration.
If anyone would like to join us please get in touch.

Kind Regards
Conor

[Jerry]

Have you made representations to your EU MP or the British High Commissioner in Cyprus?

[di-di]

Hi Conor my friend. Hello Bill and all other supporters!

Well what can one say as regards Conor's case?

Oracle - hmmm hope you looked in the dictionary before choosing your name! You are supposed to give wise counsel and are also meant to be prophetic. Hmmm pity you couldn't prophesise our responses to your injurious posting.

Also it is a pity that when you wrote "he could look after himself" yes he could have except that three onto one doesn't go, not in my book anyway. What cowards they were to ambush the way they did. We were there, where were you?

Conor and his family are personal friends of ours and as such we know [and believe me WE DO know the full story, both sides], whereas you only read into what you want to and totally ignore the salient facts of his case.

We also have been suffering at the hands of unscrupulous lawyers, builders landowners who have taken our money and not delivered. How many more of us are there? Let me tell you there are so many, some we know and some so intimidated by these lawless individuals, we don't as they are too frightened to speak out.

It is deplorable that a Cypriot lawyer encouraged a British woman to openly break the law, albeit with her knowledge, and are now openly supporting her and the illegal antics of Cypriot thugs.

It is a fact that it is the Cypriot people who are so sympathetic both to Conor and ourselves and as stated, to the many others still suffering. These lawless thugs, lawyers, builders, developers have brought nothing but shame and embarrassment to your beautiful country. I am so amazed that you seem to openly support them, are you perhaps one of them or closely related to them????

Like Conor we are cash buyers and these people were so quick to take our hard earned cash. We, unlike these people, are not in debt to banks or lending societies and panicking to make payments. We are trying to be patient and let the courts and official bodies help us but at times we find we are just dealing with the same contemptible, unscrupulous people we have been dealing with since all these sorry stories began.

As with Conor we have been lucky enough to find a decent lawyer who is horrified at our predicament and the way HIS people have treated us. He is doing his damndest to get through the system and make things as right for us as he can. Sadly this is not the case with hundreds of others.

You say we should do things in the right way. OK, we see the lawyers, have searches done, pay stage payments, check Land Registry entries for our protection, have legal contracts drawn up. Now where have we gone wrong???? We have brought massive employment to this island, you welcome us with open arms and promises, we trust you and become friends with you. BUT the friendship seems to stop when you can get no more money out of us. This is not indicative of the Cypriot people as a whole is it? Maybe it is your way but certainly not your countrymen's way.

Of course we know you are fighting for your rights as a nation and we are all well aware of it and are very supportive. In fact we decry those British who purchase in the North, at least i do and am not afraid to say it. Don't punish us all. I know if these things were happening to Cypriots in the UK they would lobby just about anyone they could to get justice. This is what we are doing. We need help not your callous, contemptible remarks.

I just hope you have a heart and never have a British neighbour who has suffered to get their home.

I myself had many Cypriot friends in the UK [no i am not Cypriot related] and always, without fail, they were made welcome. Indeed many Cypriots are doing very well in the UK and it would not occur to people to rip them off in the same way that we have been over here.

I love Cyprus and the Cypriot people but i do not like thieves and liars. I know Conor and his family feel the same.

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