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[Eric dayi]

I am also a Cypriot. Lets set up the bloody federation , compensate those that lost land and start to show the rest of the world how civilized we can be.

According to a popular dictionary at…

http://www.bartleby.com/61/81/C0378100.html

The second meaning of the word “civilized” besides… “Having a highly developed society and culture” is:

“Showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; humane, ethical, and reasonable”

Now tell me how you see yourselves as “civilized” when so many of you are having problems reading, comprehending, and evaluating, the evidence on so many important aspects of the Cyprus problem that we so often challenge you with?

You’d better think again because “civilized” isn’t about covering your arse and immersing yourselves in crime, such as the PROSTITUTION of Greek Cypriot property, the ransacking of Greek Cypriot churches, the selling off of priceless historical artifacts, the desecration of mountain ranges with gigantic Turkish graffiti, the utter ignorance and violations of UN resolutions, and so forth...

Are you REALLY civilized or just fooling yourselves?

Desperate situation calls for desperate measures.

In your desperation for ENOSIS you even tried genocide in our desperation we do what we have to survive. At least we TCs didn't try to eliminate you from the island and had no plans to unify the whole island with Turkey.

Stop talking about you Greeks and GCs in the so-called "RoC" GR vecause civilised you certainly are not, civilised people do not talk about war and killing a whole race including toddlers and children like you and you Greek/GC comrades talk about and threaten us with all the time.

civilised my arse, you are as greedy savages as you were back in the 50s, 60s and 70s and given the chance you'd try your worse to murder as many of us as possible, you said that yourself and still call yourselves "civilised". You keep on saying it and maybe one day you might even become civilised.

[repulsewarrior]

...to get back on topic,

the settlers are here. and, we must demonstrate to the displaced that our State is based on Principal, which is why I stress that for some, with enclaves, there is the Right of Return, as communities; and in the south, Turkish Cypriot enclaves afford the settlers homes, rather than houses, (if they choose Cyprus as the State in which they commit their living,) rather than their forced return, which in some cases will surely be as inHuman.

bilako, have you read my manifesto, it is really clear, your thoughts about it, personally, is what i need. beyond the stuff that is presently on the plate, unit has already said that the GC will never accept it, don't you think that this solution offers many more opportunities; for the island's sustinence?

[repulsewarrior]

...on second thought, perhaps the solution lies in agreeing to repopulation by allowing for a favoured immigration to Turkish citizens, by the Cypriot Republic we both can agree to, until demographically Turcophones represent about one third of the population....

realistically, more than likely, with our introduction into the EU, and the possibility that there wll either be no more famines in Africa, or vast migrations north with Global Warming, we can expect the population to be even more Hegemonous, Greek and Turkish being part of a bigger whole.

our govenment as a State, at this point, needs to be strong, providing guidence to the population as individuals. yet as persons in a bicommunal State, the people will address the issues for their execution themselves as (for the present) two distinctive societies through their own self representation as majorities, with the responsibility of providing for the minorities amongst them, their special needs.

[bilako22]

I am also a Cypriot. Lets set up the bloody federation , compensate those that lost land and start to show the rest of the world how civilized we can be.

According to a popular dictionary at…

http://www.bartleby.com/61/81/C0378100.html

The second meaning of the word “civilized” besides… “Having a highly developed society and culture” is:

“Showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; humane, ethical, and reasonable”

Now tell me how you see yourselves as “civilized” when so many of you are having problems reading, comprehending, and evaluating, the evidence on so many important aspects of the Cyprus problem that we so often challenge you with?

You’d better think again because “civilized” isn’t about covering your arse and immersing yourselves in crime, such as the PROSTITUTION of Greek Cypriot property, the ransacking of Greek Cypriot churches, the selling off of priceless historical artifacts, the desecration of mountain ranges with gigantic Turkish graffiti, the utter ignorance and violations of UN resolutions, and so forth...

Are you REALLY civilized or just fooling yourselves?

Thank you Real . Now that you have proved beyond doubt that I and all my fellow TCs are nothing but savages what do you propose to do with us?

[miltiades]

I am also a Cypriot. Lets set up the bloody federation , compensate those that lost land and start to show the rest of the world how civilized we can be.

According to a popular dictionary at…

http://www.bartleby.com/61/81/C0378100.html

The second meaning of the word “civilized” besides… “Having a highly developed society and culture” is:

“Showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; humane, ethical, and reasonable”

Now tell me how you see yourselves as “civilized” when so many of you are having problems reading, comprehending, and evaluating, the evidence on so many important aspects of the Cyprus problem that we so often challenge you with?

You’d better think again because “civilized” isn’t about covering your arse and immersing yourselves in crime, such as the PROSTITUTION of Greek Cypriot property, the ransacking of Greek Cypriot churches, the selling off of priceless historical artifacts, the desecration of mountain ranges with gigantic Turkish graffiti, the utter ignorance and violations of UN resolutions, and so forth...

Are you REALLY civilized or just fooling yourselves?

Thank you Real . Now that you have proved beyond doubt that I and all my fellow TCs are nothing but savages what do you propose to do with us?

The majority of T/Cs do not condone the desecration of Geek Cypriot Churches or indeed the systematic destruction of cultural evidence of G/C existence on this island for thousands of years. The vast majority of T/Cs are not happy that the part under the control of Turkey has been turned into a large casino and a whore house. The vast majority of T/Cs see the whole of Cyprus as their country just as we see the occupied as our country.
There is no doubt that with the ever decreasing numbers of T/Cs in the occupied part the time is fast approaching where the already in existence settler majority will force the T/C minority into a mass exodus , and it will be to the ROC that they will be heading for.
Do not underestimate the T/C civilization , they are an integral part of our civilization sharing values that are precious to us all.
The official position insisted upon by Turkey is that the ROC is not recognised in the "TRNC" and Turkey. The logical conclusion here is that the ROC being the one and only legally recognised internationally Republic must actively engage in influencing a change of attitudes which will draw the T/Cs away from Turkey , rather than into Turkeys arms. There are areas where contradictory acts are being committed by the ROC , the result of such acts further alienating the T/Cs .
No , the T/Cs are part of the Cypriot civilization the occupier is not only occupying the Northern part of Cyprus but also dominates the T/Cs.

[humanist]

My personal point of view on settlers is that they do not outnumber the TC population in a Unified Cyprus. From there on its up to the TC's to decide the number of settlers who stay.

[Get Real!]

Our Turkish Cypriot friends still haven’t answered the question:

Are the Turkish Cypriot people "civilized" according to the dictionary's description below?

“Showing evidence of moral and intellectual advancement; humane, ethical, and reasonable”

Regards, GR.

[hasanaggi]

Tell me something

Do you wish to live in peace; sharing the island with uncivilised people?

[Get Real!]

Tell me something

Do you wish to live in peace; sharing the island with uncivilised people?

Your question contradicts itself because it's NOT possible to live in peace with uncivilized people. Therefore, if these people cannot become civilized by…

1. Respecting international law
2. Protecting other people’s property
3. Restoring ruined churches
4. Recovering as many artifacts as possible
5. Cleaning the garbage on the mountain range

…etc, then I’d rather they LEAVE the island altogether.

[Eliko]

You GCs are just as uncivilized today as you have ever been, placing a saddle on a donkey doesnt make it a race horse.

The application of a handful of 'Colman's Mustard' slapped generously under it's tail would soon change all that mate !.

Perhaps a similar method could be applied to the problem of the Turkish settlers, line them up facing homeward, a quick slap on the backside and "Whooooooosh" problem solved.

Best Wishes to all you folks, hope to be with you in a day or so. Eliko.