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[pantheman]

United Cyprus demands termination of settling in occupied areas

06/05/2008

Turkish Cypriot political party ''United Cyprus'' is demanding the termination of settling in the Turkish occupied areas, saying it is a war crime and alters the demographic character of the Turkish Cypriot community.

Party member Abdullah Korkmazhan says in a written statement that the demand of Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat for all the Turkish settlers to remain on the island after a Cyprus settlement is the worst action against the Turkish Cypriots.

He notes that the transfer of illegal population from Turkey to the occupied areas alters the demographic character of the Turkish Cypriot community and renders the Turkish Cypriots a minority.

Korkmazhan also points out the necessity for a solution that will safeguard the human rights and freedoms of all Cypriots and terminate rather than legitimise settling.

He furthermore notes that the presence of Turkish Cypriots violates international law and constitutes a war crime.

Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when Turkey invaded and occupied its northern third.

http://www.financialmirror.com/more_new ... t=Politics

hmmmm....Interesting

Thank you Mr Abdullah Korkmazhan , finally my faith has been restored.

After being poisoned by all the TC shit talk on this forum, I was getting worried about joining these people, but just goes to show that there are some decent sensible talk TC out there after all.

Once again thanks, now please relay that message to your TC brothers on this forum and lets have some proper dialogue.

Have a nice day Mr Abdullah Korkmazhan .

[miltiades]

United Cyprus demands termination of settling in occupied areas

06/05/2008

Turkish Cypriot political party ''United Cyprus'' is demanding the termination of settling in the Turkish occupied areas, saying it is a war crime and alters the demographic character of the Turkish Cypriot community.

Party member Abdullah Korkmazhan says in a written statement that the demand of Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat for all the Turkish settlers to remain on the island after a Cyprus settlement is the worst action against the Turkish Cypriots.

He notes that the transfer of illegal population from Turkey to the occupied areas alters the demographic character of the Turkish Cypriot community and renders the Turkish Cypriots a minority.

Korkmazhan also points out the necessity for a solution that will safeguard the human rights and freedoms of all Cypriots and terminate rather than legitimise settling.

He furthermore notes that the presence of Turkish Cypriots violates international law and constitutes a war crime.

Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when Turkey invaded and occupied its northern third.

http://www.financialmirror.com/more_new ... t=Politics

hmmmm....Interesting

Thank you Mr Abdullah Korkmazhan , finally my faith has been restored.

After being poisoned by all the TC shit talk on this forum, I was getting worried about joining these people, but just goes to show that there are some decent sensible talk TC out there after all.

Once again thanks, now please relay that message to your TC brothers on this forum and lets have some proper dialogue.

Have a nice day Mr Abdullah Korkmazhan .

Pantheman , as one who daily interacts with T/Cs here in the UK , I can assure you that Abdullah is in the majority .
The likes of the few extremists that we have on this forum are the minority . As you know I have always maintained relationships with T/Cs and I can honestly say that I HAVE NEVER met anyone who does not want what you and I and every other responsible Cypriot wants. Peace with honour , one nation for all and Cyprus as the foremost motherland , and all bloody foreign troops out of Cyprus.

[pantheman]

Miltiades,

Co-incidentally, I was talking about TC to my mother-in-law last night (and this is the first time i have ever heard her say anything about TC) and she mentioned when she was younger and worked in Famagusta that the TC ladies were really lovely and hospitable people. That they were close and family orientated and this got me thinking.
I have been faced with too much hatred here to see clearly the real goings on and now that I heard from 2 indepenent sources I feel some relief that the situation is not as dire as some here would make it.

It puts people like VP, Eric, Big AL, Zan, and other to shame. they tarnish the good TC people with their poison and they should stop for the sake of giving Cyprus a chance to be free for all Cypriots.

Light at the end of that tunnel is now visible

[bilako22]

Miltiades,

Co-incidentally, I was talking about TC to my mother-in-law last night (and this is the first time i have ever heard her say anything about TC) and she mentioned when she was younger and worked in Famagusta that the TC ladies were really lovely and hospitable people. That they were close and family orientated and this got me thinking.
I have been faced with too much hatred here to see clearly the real goings on and now that I heard from 2 indepenent sources I feel some relief that the situation is not as dire as some here would make it.

It puts people like VP, Eric, Big AL, Zan, and other to shame. they tarnish the good TC people with their poison and they should stop for the sake of giving Cyprus a chance to be free for all Cypriots.

Light at the end of that tunnel is now visible

For poison look at yourself and your beloved GC community. It amazes me that you seem to be suprised that TC ladies were "really lovely and hospitable "

[humanist]

yeah well other than Zan and VP have told me in person that there is a real divide between TC's and settlers. Not news to me

[miltiades]

Miltiades,

Co-incidentally, I was talking about TC to my mother-in-law last night (and this is the first time i have ever heard her say anything about TC) and she mentioned when she was younger and worked in Famagusta that the TC ladies were really lovely and hospitable people. That they were close and family orientated and this got me thinking.
I have been faced with too much hatred here to see clearly the real goings on and now that I heard from 2 indepenent sources I feel some relief that the situation is not as dire as some here would make it.

It puts people like VP, Eric, Big AL, Zan, and other to shame. they tarnish the good TC people with their poison and they should stop for the sake of giving Cyprus a chance to be free for all Cypriots.

Light at the end of that tunnel is now visible

For poison look at yourself and your beloved GC community. It amazes me that you seem to be suprised that TC ladies were "really lovely and hospitable "

Bilako , No mate , you take a good look at your self , just ask yourself one honest question and give an honest answer .From the few posts that have come from you , is there any conciliatory , peace orientated , forgiving and above all pro Cypriot views ??The answer of course is the stark reality of NO. You have in every post shown your true colours. Hate and more hate !! Grow up mate the world has moved on and the ROC has also moved on , not so though for the "TRNC" !!!

[DT.]

Korkmazan left it a little late, but still, better late than never. Someone in politics and with a public voice is saying what TCs in this forum have been saying for a loooong time: the TCs are in danger of disappearing as a distinct culture and people.

TC's in this forum???? ha......you mean Bir, please do not pigeon hole all TC's on this forum. My views (which i assume is in the majority) is that the settlers were allowed into the TRNC by the TRNC government and are now part of the TRNC. Dont assume that just because bir agree's wioth everything GC's say that that means we all do, infact most TC's would want our turkish brothers and sisters to remain.and as far as negotiations are concerned Mr Talat has already said the issue of settlers in not negotiable.

last time we had this debate sweetie we asked the TC's on this forum if they agree with eric on this matter and from my recollection the majority disagreed. The likes of iceman, halil and others included....

Would you like me to dig up the post?

[Kikapu]

It puts people like VP, Eric, Big AL, Zan, and other to shame.

Sorry Pantheman, but the one's you have mentioned above have NO SHAME at all . They and their NeoPartitionist comrades are truly morally corrupted and are in for it for themselves. They are not interested in the welfare of the average True Cypriots, be they be Turkish or Greek. No my friend, they are only interested in how much money they can gain from the present situation all the while trying to build a "corrupt society" in the north, so that they would feel more at home. They are the rotten core of the apple and trying very hard to rot the rest of the basket of apples. But they will not get away with it. The moment there is peace in Cyprus, all these morally corrupted individuals will leave Cyprus for good. True Democracy will not serve their purpose at all, so why hang around.

[Tim Drayton]

Today’s Yeni Düzen

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... &zoneid=14

reports the results of a survey published in yesterday’s Politis based on interviews with 500 Greek Cypriots. The percentages replying in the affirmative, “given that there is a solution and full security is achieved”, to the following questions were, for the years 2003, 2007 and 2008:

1. Would you consent to a member of your family marrying a Turkish Cypriot?
2003: 24%, 2007; 11% and 2008; 31%.
2. Would you consent to working in the same place as Turkish Cypriots?
2003; 82%, 2007; 63% and; 85%
3. Would you consent to living in mixed towns/villages?
2003; 74%, 2007: 63% and 2008; 83%
4. Would you consent to living in the north under Turkish Cypriot administration?
2003; 13%, 2007; 5% and 2008; 21%
5. Would you work for a Turkish Cypriot employer?
2003; Not Asked. 2007; 28% and 2008: 47%.
6. Would you consent to your child going to the same school as Turkish Cypriots?
2003: Not Asked. 2007: 54% and 2008: 88%
7. Would you go to the same place of entertainment as Turkish Cypriots?
2003; 72%. 2007; 62% and 2008; 82%.

Interesting results I think, which show that there is much less hostility towards Turkish Cypriots among the Greek Cypriot population in general than one might imagine from some of the posts on this forum. It is interesting to note that sentiment towards Turkish Cypriots has become warmer over the last year.

[halil]

Today’s Yeni Düzen

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... &zoneid=14

reports the results of a survey published in yesterday’s Politis based on interviews with 500 Greek Cypriots. The percentages replying in the affirmative, “given that there is a solution and full security is achieved”, to the following questions were, for the years 2003, 2007 and 2008:

1. Would you consent to a member of your family marrying a Turkish Cypriot?
2003: 24%, 2007; 11% and 2008; 31%.
2. Would you consent to working in the same place as Turkish Cypriots?
2003; 82%, 2007; 63% and; 85%
3. Would you consent to living in mixed towns/villages?
2003; 74%, 2007: 63% and 2008; 83%
4. Would you consent to living in the north under Turkish Cypriot administration?
2003; 13%, 2007; 5% and 2008; 21%
5. Would you work for a Turkish Cypriot employer?
2003; Not Asked. 2007; 28% and 2008: 47%.
6. Would you consent to your child going to the same school as Turkish Cypriots?
2003: Not Asked. 2007: 54% and 2008: 88%
7. Would you go to the same place of entertainment as Turkish Cypriots?
2003; 72%. 2007; 62% and 2008; 82%.

Interesting results I think, which show that there is much less hostility towards Turkish Cypriots among the Greek Cypriot population in general than one might imagine from some of the posts on this forum. It is interesting to note that sentiment towards Turkish Cypriots has become warmer over the last year.

Tim ,
why u didn't translate this part of the report as well.

Çoğunluk tazminat almaya olumlu bakıyor
Majority wants to get compensation for their properties

Gazete; ankette, Kıbrıs sorununun çözümü durumunda Rum göçmenlerin bir kısmının eski taşınmaz mallarına geri dönmek yerine tazminat almalarını çoğunluğun olumlu karşıladığını ve bu yöndeki soruya “evet” diyenlerin oranının %46, “hayır” diyenlerin oranının %39 ve “bilmiyorum/yanıtlamıyorum” diyenlerin oranının ise %15 olduğunu vurguladı.

46% of them said during the solution of the Cyprus problem; they would like to get compensation for their properties . (instead of returning back)
39% said no , 15% not know or not answer.

Ankete göre bu soruya “evet” diyenlerin oranı, Rum göçmenler arasında %53, “hayır” diyenlerin oranı %38 iken, göçmen olmayan katılımcılarda ise “evet” oranı %42, “hayır” oranı ise %39 olarak gerçekleşti.

According to survey 56 % of the GC's refugees said yes ,38 % no .people that were not refugees 42 % said yes ,39 % no

Gazete; Rum göçmenler arasında Kıbrıs Türk idaresi altında yaşamayı kabul edenlerin oranının %29 olduğunu, bunu kabul etmeyenlerin oranının da %63 olarak ankette ortaya çıktığını belirtirken, bu soruya “bilmiyorum/yanıtlamıyorum” cevabını verenlerin oranının ise %8 olduğunu vurguladı.

29 % of the GC's refugees agreed to live under the Turkish Cypriot controlled area 63 % of them not agreed. 8 5 not know or not
answered.