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Postby Xybadog » Tue May 06, 2008 9:13 pm

I'm confused because I'm learning mine from different sources, which has to stop (I don't mean this site btw). I have been taught 4 different words for "Hello" so far.

Ya sas
Ya soo
Kherete
gh'a (Haven't even attempted this one!!)
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue May 06, 2008 9:16 pm

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bill cobbett wrote:Spent a few days in Athens a couple of years ago. I was very worried that I wouldn't get by with my pretty bad conversational CY dialect, but I managed OK. Spent some time on Rhodes and a couple of other gr islands where the locals spoke something pretty close to the CY dialect.

If in doubt remember the golden rule for converting CY to GR - just add -aki to the end of words!


.... except for angouraki, for some obscure reason :roll:


Sorry O. but I must have my roots in some really backwoods villages and we call cucumbers ankouri (singular) and ankouria (plural) so the - aki rule still sort of applies.

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Postby bill cobbett » Tue May 06, 2008 9:19 pm

PS Never use the word "angouri!" on its own - it's (phallically?) offensive, unless you mean to be offensive of course.
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 06, 2008 9:23 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Spent a few days in Athens a couple of years ago. I was very worried that I wouldn't get by with my pretty bad conversational CY dialect, but I managed OK. Spent some time on Rhodes and a couple of other gr islands where the locals spoke something pretty close to the CY dialect.

If in doubt remember the golden rule for converting CY to GR - just add -aki to the end of words!


.... except for angouraki, for some obscure reason :roll:


Sorry O. but I must have my roots in some really backwoods villages and we call cucumbers ankouri (singular) and ankouria (plural) so the - aki rule still sort of applies.

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..bill c. ...kept out of the north by bad vocabulary


OK ...... this is serious! :evil:

You are 100% Cypriot, I am 50% Cypriot + 50% Greek ..... we are in dispute ..... clearly we need someone who is 100% Greek to invigilate.

What is Greek for cucumber?
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Postby Xybadog » Tue May 06, 2008 9:25 pm

Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Spent a few days in Athens a couple of years ago. I was very worried that I wouldn't get by with my pretty bad conversational CY dialect, but I managed OK. Spent some time on Rhodes and a couple of other gr islands where the locals spoke something pretty close to the CY dialect.

If in doubt remember the golden rule for converting CY to GR - just add -aki to the end of words!


.... except for angouraki, for some obscure reason :roll:


Sorry O. but I must have my roots in some really backwoods villages and we call cucumbers ankouri (singular) and ankouria (plural) so the - aki rule still sort of applies.

-----

..bill c. ...kept out of the north by bad vocabulary


OK ...... this is serious! :evil:

You are 100% Cypriot, I am 50% Cypriot + 50% Greek ..... we are in dispute ..... clearly we need someone who is 100% Greek to invigilate.

What is Greek for cucumber?


Angouri I've got in my Greek dictionary, if it's any help!! :?
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 06, 2008 9:34 pm

Xybadog wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Spent a few days in Athens a couple of years ago. I was very worried that I wouldn't get by with my pretty bad conversational CY dialect, but I managed OK. Spent some time on Rhodes and a couple of other gr islands where the locals spoke something pretty close to the CY dialect.

If in doubt remember the golden rule for converting CY to GR - just add -aki to the end of words!


.... except for angouraki, for some obscure reason :roll:


Sorry O. but I must have my roots in some really backwoods villages and we call cucumbers ankouri (singular) and ankouria (plural) so the - aki rule still sort of applies.

-----

..bill c. ...kept out of the north by bad vocabulary


OK ...... this is serious! :evil:

You are 100% Cypriot, I am 50% Cypriot + 50% Greek ..... we are in dispute ..... clearly we need someone who is 100% Greek to invigilate.

What is Greek for cucumber?


Angouri I've got in my Greek dictionary, if it's any help!! :?


Thanks Xybadog ...... but in times of crises such as this, dictionaries are the last resort ... has to be "word of mouth" ....
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue May 06, 2008 9:56 pm

Oracle wrote:
Xybadog wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Spent a few days in Athens a couple of years ago. I was very worried that I wouldn't get by with my pretty bad conversational CY dialect, but I managed OK. Spent some time on Rhodes and a couple of other gr islands where the locals spoke something pretty close to the CY dialect.

If in doubt remember the golden rule for converting CY to GR - just add -aki to the end of words!


.... except for angouraki, for some obscure reason :roll:


Sorry O. but I must have my roots in some really backwoods villages and we call cucumbers ankouri (singular) and ankouria (plural) so the - aki rule still sort of applies.

-----

..bill c. ...kept out of the north by bad vocabulary


OK ...... this is serious! :evil:

You are 100% Cypriot, I am 50% Cypriot + 50% Greek ..... we are in dispute ..... clearly we need someone who is 100% Greek to invigilate.

What is Greek for cucumber?


Angouri I've got in my Greek dictionary, if it's any help!! :?


Thanks Xybadog ...... but in times of crises such as this, dictionaries are the last resort ... has to be "word of mouth" ....



There is only one person who can sort this out. We need the scientifically accepted genetic standard type for the Cypriot genome and nation. Put out a call for GR.
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue May 06, 2008 10:06 pm

Xybadog wrote:I'm confused because I'm learning mine from different sources, which has to stop (I don't mean this site btw). I have been taught 4 different words for "Hello" so far.

Ya sas
Ya soo
Kherete
gh'a (Haven't even attempted this one!!)


I'll give you my interpretation X. Not far wrong though others may want to add to it or disagree.

It's a matter of degrees of politeness, familiarity and context.

Starting with the least polite

gh'a - (yia) - think of it as Hi! in english, ok to greet a group of friends

yia soo - not terribly polite on its own. OK to use to a good friend, much more polite if you add the friend's name - so, yia soo Michaeli is good

yia sas - getting more polite, it's the plural version, but can be used to address a single person more politely

Kherete - the politest greeting ( almost a "welcome")

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Postby Oracle » Tue May 06, 2008 10:09 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Xybadog wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Oracle wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Spent a few days in Athens a couple of years ago. I was very worried that I wouldn't get by with my pretty bad conversational CY dialect, but I managed OK. Spent some time on Rhodes and a couple of other gr islands where the locals spoke something pretty close to the CY dialect.

If in doubt remember the golden rule for converting CY to GR - just add -aki to the end of words!


.... except for angouraki, for some obscure reason :roll:


Sorry O. but I must have my roots in some really backwoods villages and we call cucumbers ankouri (singular) and ankouria (plural) so the - aki rule still sort of applies.

-----

..bill c. ...kept out of the north by bad vocabulary


OK ...... this is serious! :evil:

You are 100% Cypriot, I am 50% Cypriot + 50% Greek ..... we are in dispute ..... clearly we need someone who is 100% Greek to invigilate.

What is Greek for cucumber?


Angouri I've got in my Greek dictionary, if it's any help!! :?


Thanks Xybadog ...... but in times of crises such as this, dictionaries are the last resort ... has to be "word of mouth" ....



There is only one person who can sort this out. We need the scientifically accepted genetic standard type for the Cypriot genome and nation. Put out a call for GR.


Wrong end of the spectrum ... GR! is 100% Cypriot ... if he gets wind of this assertion of yours bill c. ... you are dead British-Cypriot meat ..... we need the likes of AlexISS ...... because adding aki to the ends of words is not for the likes of Cypriots like GR! ...... failing a 100% Greek, then Piratis is well respected ... but does not get involved with the likes of us :wink:

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Postby Xybadog » Tue May 06, 2008 10:12 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Xybadog wrote:I'm confused because I'm learning mine from different sources, which has to stop (I don't mean this site btw). I have been taught 4 different words for "Hello" so far.

Ya sas
Ya soo
Kherete
gh'a (Haven't even attempted this one!!)


I'll give you my interpretation X. Not far wrong though others may want to add to it or disagree.

It's a matter of degrees of politeness, familiarity and context.

Starting with the least polite

gh'a - (yia) - think of it as Hi! in english, ok to greet a group of friends

yia soo - not terribly polite on its own. OK to use to a good friend, much more polite if you add the friend's name - so, yia soo Michaeli is good

yia sas - getting more polite, it's the plural version, but can be used to address a single person more politely

Kherete - the politest greeting ( almost a "welcome")

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..bill c. ..heading back to the Karpas as a language tutor


Thanks for the explanation BC. Do I take it that "yia" is the GC "ya"/
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