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[Kifeas]

Kifeas, since you still insist on playing the angel and put all the blame on other side; it's not possible to reach a muttually acceptable point.

I do not understand what you are talking about?
You said I insist on playing the angel and put all the blame on other side??
Where does this come from?
Are you answering any of my postings in this thread or you have confused mine with someone else’s posting?

I forgot to mention that my friend and his mother has an incureable ultra ....-fobia, selfishness and irredentist mentality.

Oh, … I see! Therefore both mothers are mentally ill. It seems you and your friend have some kind of psychic attraction to each other, due to some mutual Oedipodian complexes.

[pantelis]

On the one hand,

Rings true for me, this feeling will increase will time as crossing have dropped to a trickle and will only be tourists in a couple of years time. Time to accept the current situation, we have been 2 seperate countries for 31 years.

On the other hand, we have 25 countries who are trying to become one, in more than one ways.
Which "hand" makes sense?

Could we be any more "stupid" than we have been already and continue to be?

Every day, I become more and more convinced that "Common Sense" has nothing to do with "Education".

[Viewpoint]

pantelis

Could we be any more "stupid" than we have been already and continue to be?

You are so right why keep banging your head against the wall and try and get to communities to live together, if the desire was there no problem would be to big to solve but when both sides are unwilling untrusting and trying to get the upper hand, the current situation will continue until we realize theres no utopian solution out there, theres reality and its called partition.

[Piratis]

Rings true for me, this feeling will increase will time as crossing have dropped to a trickle and will only be tourists in a couple of years time. Time to accept the current situation, we have been 2 seperate countries for 31 years.

What we have is a state and a pseudo state. If you want you can keep this (until the balance of power will change) but you will get nothing more.

[insan]

Rings true for me, this feeling will increase will time as crossing have dropped to a trickle and will only be tourists in a couple of years time. Time to accept the current situation, we have been 2 seperate countries for 31 years.

What we have is a state and a pseudo state. If you want you can keep this (until the balance of power will change) but you will get nothing more.

It seems to me that balance of power is getting more in favour of turkish side. If you keep the same mentality, I'm afraid you'll lose even what was given to you by Annan 5.

[Piratis]

It seems to me that balance of power is getting more in favor of turkish side.

I don't think so.
Turkey did her best to close the Cyprus problem in her favor before May 1st. Why do you think they were rushing so much?

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

I don't think so.
Turkey did her best to close the Cyprus problem in her favor before May 1st. Why do you think they were rushing so much?

Are you willing to wait for the change in power Piratis, no problem for us.

[magikthrill]

It seems to me that balance of power is getting more in favour of turkish side. If you keep the same mentality, I'm afraid you'll lose even what was given to you by Annan 5.

well the worst case scenario would be the recognition of the KKTC. however that is still better than Annan 5 so I dont know what else could be lost. Maybe Turkey has plans on invading more land to bring in more settler? Who knows.

[pantelis]

It seems to me that balance of power is getting more in favour of turkish side. If you keep the same mentality, I'm afraid you'll lose even what was given to you by Annan 5.

This could be true Insan, given the recent past history of the Cyprus problem.
At the same time, the Cyprus problem has been portrayed, in the international community, as one between Greece and Turkey, since the initial, formal involvement of the two in the 1960 agreements. The third major player in the Cyprus problem, the UK, has been quietly enjoying their self- acquired benefits, during all these years, without interruptions, while the others kept and keep each other busy. The Greek and Turkish politicians used and use the Cyprus issue as they see fit, for their own internal empowerment.
In the meantime, the TC and GC leaders take advantage of the situations, for their own political and not only benefits. The EU, USA, Israel and others use the Cyprus problem for their own internal and external benefits as well. As long as there are “gains” to be made, the “Cyprus Problem Game” will continue as usual.
Who pays the price for the "gains" of all these parties?
The solution needs to come directly out of the people of Cyprus, nobody else. For everyone else, “the problem” is a solution.

[MicAtCyp]

You are so right why keep banging your head against the wall and try and get to communities to live together

Who told you our primary target is to get the communities to live together? Our primary target is to get our stolen properties. If this means we have to live together so be it. You in your house with your daughter and your TC son in law, me in my house. Nobody oblidges us to even say kalimera to each other, but be sure everytime they increase our taxes I am more than ready to join you and shout to them in very appropriate Turkish "ha siktir".

It seems to me that balance of power is getting more in favour of turkish side.

I think everybody is losing power actually.Big surprises are awaiting everybody.