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The January 1950 “Referendum for ENOSIS” under Makarios II

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Postby Talisker » Thu May 08, 2008 1:19 am

Get Real! wrote:I had no idea that it was the communists that were so into ENOSIS!

Has Christofias got a hidden agenda? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 08, 2008 1:34 am

Talisker wrote:You will also love the following:

Under these circumstances the Turkish Cypriots, who by 1946 numbered 80,544 and accounted for 17.89% of the island's population, responded by not taking part in the plebiscite, a very natural move on their part. It is, however, noteworthy that in certain isolated cases Turkish Cypriots not only voted but did so in favor of union with Greece. :lol:

That’s worth GOLD… worthy of a dedicated thread! Image

Fascinating stuff regarding “civil servants”…

"it seems that significant pressure was exerted and most of the island's teachers as well as other civil servants avoided voting".

…and “wealthy merchants”…

“It must also be pointed out that apart from the teachers, who were obliged to abstain, another small group of Cypriots not only did not vote but openly expressed their preference for the maintenance of the status quo. They were the wealthy merchants from the industrial (by Cypriot standards) city of Limassol who, seconded by P. Pavlidis19 and P. Kakoyannis20, stood up against the current for union with Greece.

:lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 08, 2008 1:36 am

Talisker wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I had no idea that it was the communists that were so into ENOSIS!

Has Christofias got a hidden agenda? :lol:

I wonder if he even knows about all this... :?
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Postby Talisker » Thu May 08, 2008 1:41 am

Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:You will also love the following:

Under these circumstances the Turkish Cypriots, who by 1946 numbered 80,544 and accounted for 17.89% of the island's population, responded by not taking part in the plebiscite, a very natural move on their part. It is, however, noteworthy that in certain isolated cases Turkish Cypriots not only voted but did so in favor of union with Greece. :lol:

That’s worth GOLD… worthy of a dedicated thread! Image

Fascinating stuff regarding “civil servants”…

"it seems that significant pressure was exerted and most of the island's teachers as well as other civil servants avoided voting".

…and “wealthy merchants”…

“It must also be pointed out that apart from the teachers, who were obliged to abstain, another small group of Cypriots not only did not vote but openly expressed their preference for the maintenance of the status quo. They were the wealthy merchants from the industrial (by Cypriot standards) city of Limassol who, seconded by P. Pavlidis19 and P. Kakoyannis20, stood up against the current for union with Greece.

:lol:

Apparently 800 TCs voted in favour of union with Greece! Luvin' it. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 08, 2008 1:43 am

And here's the evidence that it was a PETITION! :lol:

In his letter to Archbishop Makarios II dated December 17, 1949, the British Governor was, therefore, typically correct in labeling the plebiscite a simple signaturecollecting process.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 08, 2008 1:52 am

Talisker wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:You will also love the following:

Under these circumstances the Turkish Cypriots, who by 1946 numbered 80,544 and accounted for 17.89% of the island's population, responded by not taking part in the plebiscite, a very natural move on their part. It is, however, noteworthy that in certain isolated cases Turkish Cypriots not only voted but did so in favor of union with Greece. :lol:

That’s worth GOLD… worthy of a dedicated thread! Image

Fascinating stuff regarding “civil servants”…

"it seems that significant pressure was exerted and most of the island's teachers as well as other civil servants avoided voting".

…and “wealthy merchants”…

“It must also be pointed out that apart from the teachers, who were obliged to abstain, another small group of Cypriots not only did not vote but openly expressed their preference for the maintenance of the status quo. They were the wealthy merchants from the industrial (by Cypriot standards) city of Limassol who, seconded by P. Pavlidis19 and P. Kakoyannis20, stood up against the current for union with Greece.

:lol:

Apparently 800 TCs voted in favour of union with Greece! Luvin' it. :lol:

Where did you get that?
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Postby Talisker » Thu May 08, 2008 8:16 am

Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:You will also love the following:

Under these circumstances the Turkish Cypriots, who by 1946 numbered 80,544 and accounted for 17.89% of the island's population, responded by not taking part in the plebiscite, a very natural move on their part. It is, however, noteworthy that in certain isolated cases Turkish Cypriots not only voted but did so in favor of union with Greece. :lol:

That’s worth GOLD… worthy of a dedicated thread! Image

Fascinating stuff regarding “civil servants”…

"it seems that significant pressure was exerted and most of the island's teachers as well as other civil servants avoided voting".

…and “wealthy merchants”…

“It must also be pointed out that apart from the teachers, who were obliged to abstain, another small group of Cypriots not only did not vote but openly expressed their preference for the maintenance of the status quo. They were the wealthy merchants from the industrial (by Cypriot standards) city of Limassol who, seconded by P. Pavlidis19 and P. Kakoyannis20, stood up against the current for union with Greece.

:lol:

Apparently 800 TCs voted in favour of union with Greece! Luvin' it. :lol:

Where did you get that?

The aforementioned blog at:
http://hellenic-international-relations ... yprus.html

states that:
The results of the popular vote were a vindication of the positions held by its organizers: of the 224,747 voters, 215,108 or 96% actually voted and all in favor of union with Greece . The 4% who abstained from voting were the very few persons who wanted the maintenance of the British domination on the island and the big mass of civil servants who, under the authorities' pressure, prefered not to vote.

I found an uploaded presentation at:
http://www.arts.yorku.ca/hist/tgallant/ ... us_000.pdf

which provides exactly the same figures, but in addition states that:
'800 Turkish Cypriots also votes yes'.

This does need to be substantiated further, but I thought this figure may be reliable given that the data for total numbers of voters and those who voted 'yes' match those from other sources.

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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 08, 2008 8:35 am

Talisker wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Talisker wrote:You will also love the following:

Under these circumstances the Turkish Cypriots, who by 1946 numbered 80,544 and accounted for 17.89% of the island's population, responded by not taking part in the plebiscite, a very natural move on their part. It is, however, noteworthy that in certain isolated cases Turkish Cypriots not only voted but did so in favor of union with Greece. :lol:

That’s worth GOLD… worthy of a dedicated thread! Image

Fascinating stuff regarding “civil servants”…

"it seems that significant pressure was exerted and most of the island's teachers as well as other civil servants avoided voting".

…and “wealthy merchants”…

“It must also be pointed out that apart from the teachers, who were obliged to abstain, another small group of Cypriots not only did not vote but openly expressed their preference for the maintenance of the status quo. They were the wealthy merchants from the industrial (by Cypriot standards) city of Limassol who, seconded by P. Pavlidis19 and P. Kakoyannis20, stood up against the current for union with Greece.

:lol:

Apparently 800 TCs voted in favour of union with Greece! Luvin' it. :lol:



From a thread which was posted last year I believe this was discussed. These votes for Enosis were TC Union members of AKEL and this was a 'Block Vote'. I doubt they had any idea what they were voting for.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 08, 2008 11:21 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:Apparently 800 TCs voted in favour of union with Greece! Luvin' it. :lol:

From a thread which was posted last year I believe this was discussed.

You sure?

These votes for Enosis were TC Union members of AKEL and this was a 'Block Vote'. I doubt they had any idea what they were voting for.

Deniz, could it also be said that today’s Turkish Cypriots supporting partition have no idea what exactly they are supporting?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 08, 2008 11:48 am

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Talisker wrote:Apparently 800 TCs voted in favour of union with Greece! Luvin' it. :lol:

From a thread which was posted last year I believe this was discussed.

You sure?

These votes for Enosis were TC Union members of AKEL and this was a 'Block Vote'. I doubt they had any idea what they were voting for.

Deniz, could it also be said that today’s Turkish Cypriots supporting partition have no idea what exactly they are supporting?


Yes, I am sure. All I learnt about this was from that thread which I mention. Since when has your best defence been to attack. Ofcourse they b....y well know. That is a stupid question coming from you. :lol: :roll: Todays media and the freedom of the press enables all to be aware of what they are voting for. Otherwise you wouldnt have the numerous political party's abounding in the north.
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