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[DT.]

Between the settlers, the virgin birth and the gaurantees...I am not really feeling it.

Christofias pledges action on settlers

THE GREEK Cypriot side has its own views on the issue of Turkish settlers in the occupied areas and has plans to put them forward, President Demetris Christofias has said.

Speaking to reporters on Friday following comments by Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat that the status of persons living in the occupied areas is not negotiable, Christofias said: “Mr Talat admits that all the settlers remain and are registered as citizens based on the Annan plan, and it is one of the aspects of the plan which made us go against it… Consequently, we have our positions on this matter as well. We will submit them and we will fight for them, as we will do with all other aspects of the Cyprus problem, without the Annan plan.”

Christofias said if Talat wanted to raise issues that were in the Annan plan then it was his right to do so “but we have our own positions and views”.

Asked if he would be raising the issue of the settlers during his forthcoming direct negotiations with Talat or if it was an issue to be discussed by the technical committees, the president said: “We want a committee to be created not only for the settlers but also for the issue of illegal immigration and citizenship and for issues which, in our view, should first be discussed by the committees.”

According to the Cyprus News Agency there are some 120,000 Turkish settlers and about 85,000 Turkish Cypriots in the occupied areas. Around 55,000 Turkish Cypriots have already left the island.

[humanist]

Well if the TC's want all the settlers to stay then ther should be one unitary State on the Island one person = one vote. Lets discuss this as an option. Then a truly Cypriot identity ought to be encouraged. You have a Cypriot citizenship you have allegiance to the Cypriot State you live in.

[DT.]

screw the settlers, all non-EU nationals need to have their cases examined one by one and unless asylum is warranted, should be expelled.

[pantheman]

screw the settlers, all non-EU nationals need to have their cases examined one by one and unless asylum is warranted, should be expelled.

Agreed in principle, but these people are not asylum seekers, they have not run away from war torn turkey, they were brought over with promises of riches etc, there is no case to hear.

They should return unconditionally, I guess some exceptions to the rule could be had for those married to TCs etc but thats it.

The settlers should be removed and the 55,000 TCs that left be invited back, end of.

[Oracle]

THE GREEK Cypriot side has its own views on the issue of Turkish settlers in the occupied areas and has plans to put them forward, President Demetris Christofias has said.

Best thing I've heard in ages.

Good going by our President ... assert the GC position unconditionally!

Spell it out to Talat he has no authority over these decisions, and the President's word will be final ... backed by the EU.

[observer]

I think that you underestimate Talat. Turkey is willing, for a whole lot of reasons, go along with almost any agreement made between GC and TC.

I think that you seriously overestimate the EUs willingness to be involved in yet another bout of ethnic cleansing.

Our Turks are here to stay. Your Pontians, Sri-Lankans, Filipinos etc are here to stay if they have lived on Cyprus for 5 years plus.

Get used to being a multi-cultural EU country.

[Oracle]

I think that you underestimate Talat. Turkey is willing, for a whole lot of reasons, go along with almost any agreement made between GC and TC.

I think that you seriously overestimate the EUs willingness to be involved in yet another bout of ethnic cleansing.

Our Turks are here to stay. Your Pontians, Sri-Lankans, Filipinos etc are here to stay if they have lived on Cyprus for 5 years plus.

Get used to being a multi-cultural EU country.

Cyprus is and will always be a multi-cultural society, no problem!

The only place on Earth which discriminates against race (GCs) is the Turkish Occupied section ..... and shortly that will be sorted!

[observer]

I think that you underestimate Talat. Turkey is willing, for a whole lot of reasons, go along with almost any agreement made between GC and TC.

I think that you seriously overestimate the EUs willingness to be involved in yet another bout of ethnic cleansing.

Our Turks are here to stay. Your Pontians, Sri-Lankans, Filipinos etc are here to stay if they have lived on Cyprus for 5 years plus.

Get used to being a multi-cultural EU country.

Cyprus is and will always be a multi-cultural society, no problem!

The only place on Earth which discriminates against race (GCs) is the Turkish Occupied section ..... and shortly that will be sorted!

You're telling me that you haven't noticed the discrimination by GCs against just about everybody else? I know that you don't live in Cyprus but you must have read what GCs have to say on this Forum.

[Oracle]

I think that you underestimate Talat. Turkey is willing, for a whole lot of reasons, go along with almost any agreement made between GC and TC.

I think that you seriously overestimate the EUs willingness to be involved in yet another bout of ethnic cleansing.

Our Turks are here to stay. Your Pontians, Sri-Lankans, Filipinos etc are here to stay if they have lived on Cyprus for 5 years plus.

Get used to being a multi-cultural EU country.

Cyprus is and will always be a multi-cultural society, no problem!

The only place on Earth which discriminates against race (GCs) is the Turkish Occupied section ..... and shortly that will be sorted!

You're telling me that you haven't noticed the discrimination by GCs against just about everybody else? I know that you don't live in Cyprus but you must have read what GCs have to say on this Forum.

Clearly all your assumptions are wrong!

GCs are no more discriminatory than any other people, and if you suggest otherwise, then you yourself are practising discrimination.

However, we were discussing institutionalised racism and discrimination ..... and Turkey is guilty of engaging troops to specifically discriminate against one "race" ... the GCs.

[observer]

Strange that you have not read the Akritas Plan, co-written by your last president, as it has appeared on the Forum many times and is frequently referred to. One section will be sufficient:

b) Our first objective was our endeavour to be vindicated as the Greek majority and to create the impression that:

(i) The solution given is neither satisfactory not fair;

(ii) The agreement reached was not the result of a free and voluntary acceptance of a compromise of the conflicting views;

(iii) That the revision of the agreements constitutes a compelling necessity for survival, and not an effort of the Greeks to repudiate their signature;

(iv) That the co-existence of the two communities is possible, and

(v) That the strong element on which foreign states ought to rely is the Greek majority and not the Turkish Cypriots.