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[halil]

Here more ''cheap propoganda for you ''
ARPALIK (AYSOZOMENOS)

We were driving towards Arpalık (Aysozomenos) village, which was once solely inhabited by Turkish Cypriots and was left because of the Greek Cypriot attacks of 6 February, 1964. During these attacks, 5 people were killed and 2 were injured. After Dali we passed through Protomia and saw a brown sign post indicating the way to Ayios Sosomonos. After we turned into a dirt road on an asphalt road and drove for 1 to 2 km, we saw that Arpalık (Aysozomenos) village was 1 km ahead. It is a village located on the skirts of the peaks. We were slowly entering the village when we were faced with another story of Three Martyrs (Goşşi).

In 1964, human massacres had been carried out whereas, in the following years it seemed like there were also house massacres. Almost one hundred per cent of the houses were destroyed and vandalised. Arpalýk village had become a ghost village. We continued driving through the village. There were Turkish houses which had been destroyed but the historical church was under restoration. We saw people restoring the church. We greeted each other and continued to take photos. We could hardly move from the rubble of the destroyed houses and continued to take photos. We could have been, at anytime, bitten by a poisonous snake or insect. Then, we were in front of a Mosque which was built on a high peak. A large part of the mosque was demolished.



MOSQUE USED AS TARGET RANGE

In a book entitled "Our values left in the South" written by Hasan Fehmi, it was written that there were bullet marks from 1964 on the Mosque. It was true, there were bullet marks on the Mosque. The bullet marks were everywhere, there were hundreds, both inside and outside of the building. The building was full of holes. While we were thinking if all of these bullet marks belonged to 1964 or not, we saw many empty bullets, hand grenade fuses and grips, smoke grenades and anti-tank ammunition carriages. Greek Cypriots had turned the village into a military exercise area.

After taking some photos, we moved towards the eucalyptus trees on the skirts of the peaks on the Northern side of the village. The cemetery was supposed to be there. When we got closer to the trees, we found no graves or a cemetery. Everything was razed to the ground. There was nothing, except from some broken tombstones. In short, we found out that the Arpalık cemetery was completely annihilated.


KALKANLI (Arodez)

After we left Altıncık, we started driving towards the North. We turned east towards Poli, which is one of the biggest villages and passed through Strumbi, Kathiga and Upper Arodez and then arrived at Kalkanlı (Arodez), which was solely a Turkish Cypriot village before 1974. Kalkanlı, is a lovely village, with plenty of fruit trees, carob, almonds and olive trees. Some of the houses that had been left by the Turkish Cypriots were well-preserved because Greek Cypriots had settled there after 1974. Other houses, which had been left to their own fate, were being used as stables and coops. Although not to the same extent, as in other villages, there were also some demolished houses in Kalkanlı.



CLAY OVENS

When we entered the village we saw clay ovens. There were 8 clay ovens next to one another. Out of all the villages that we visited this was the first village where we saw 8 clay ovens next to one another. We imagined the traditional wedding ceremonies of the past. Perhaps, the former habitants of the village used to fill the ovens with the meats of the animals that they had slaughtered in cooperation. These ovens were an indication of the close friendship and degree of solidarity that existed among the Turkish Cypriot people during those years when there was scarcity and poverty. These clay ovens, which served the inhabitants of Kalkanlý for years, were now left to their own fate. The condition of these ovens, which are a reflection of the hospitality of the Turkish Cypriot people’s culture, has upset us all.



THE MOSQUE

We continued to move through the village. We found the mosque, which was built in the beginning of the 20th Century. The green coloured windows and doors of the mosque were closed. We couldn’t enter the mosque, so we continued on moving and after approximately 100 km we saw the primary school in Kalkanlı. The doors of the school had all been pulled out. The school garden was covered in overgrown weeds and thorns . We entered the school which had arches and its roof had been destroyed and burnt. The doors and windows were all broken and even the marble floor tiles had been ripped out. What remained of the building was just its frame.



RED ROSES

In Kalkanlı, village the last place we visited was the cemetery. The cemetery, where there were many cypress trees, seemed to have been recently fenced off. We entered the cemetery. All the graves were broken and destroyed except for two tombstones, which somehow had managed to survive. There were dead snakes in some of the graves, many of which had been razed to the ground. Then we saw that two red roses which had been left by Turkish Cypriot visitors who had visited the cemetery following the opening of the gates. From this it was obvious that, these Turkish Cypriot people couldn’t find their relative’s grave and had left the roses in the place where they thought the grave might be. Stones were also put on the stems of the roses to show that, if other people came and visited the cemetery they would notice that there was a grave there and wouldn’t step over it. We also saw trees which had fallen down in the cemetery. One of the trees, which seemed to have fallen on the graves a long time ago, was still there because the cemetery had never been cleaned. We left Kalkanlı with these observations in Kalkanlı.

[halil]

cheap propoganda or not there is this evidence and it must be condemed with restitution if true. enclaves in the south, like enclaves in the north will demonstrate our respect for Human Rights, and their betterment with a change of our behaviour toward each other.

...as we have said before no side is blameless.

repulsewarrior ,
i agree with you on this one cheap propoganda or not . they are evidences, most of the TC's when they visited they are houses they have been in shock that they couldn't find their houses . this is the way , whats most of them speaking .when the tv series finishes i will put the pictures here and you can see damages very clearly .
both sides are quilty on this case .

[DT.]

cheap propoganda or not there is this evidence and it must be condemed with restitution if true. enclaves in the south, like enclaves in the north will demonstrate our respect for Human Rights, and their betterment with a change of our behaviour toward each other.

...as we have said before no side is blameless.

repulsewarrior ,
i agree with you on this one cheap propoganda or not . they are evidences, most of the TC's when they visited they are houses they have been in shock that they couldn't find their houses . this is the way , whats most of them speaking .when the tv series finishes i will put the pictures here and you can see damages very clearly .
both sides are quilty on this case .

Even if they are Halil, its not our millitary that stopped people from living in their homes for the past 34 years so as to avoid all of this.

[halil]

cheap propoganda or not there is this evidence and it must be condemed with restitution if true. enclaves in the south, like enclaves in the north will demonstrate our respect for Human Rights, and their betterment with a change of our behaviour toward each other.

...as we have said before no side is blameless.

repulsewarrior ,
i agree with you on this one cheap propoganda or not . they are evidences, most of the TC's when they visited they are houses they have been in shock that they couldn't find their houses . this is the way , whats most of them speaking .when the tv series finishes i will put the pictures here and you can see damages very clearly .
both sides are quilty on this case .

Even if they are Halil, its not our millitary that stopped people from living in their homes for the past 34 years so as to avoid all of this.

DT,
fair , scare , not trust force the people of these villages to left their homes.
they all wanted to go more secure places . don't tell me that GC arm forces not attact to these villages at 74 .
also there was a agreement called 3rd Vienna Agreement here it is .these agreement has been done between GC and TC sides to protect the civilians lifes . With this agreement population movement has been done .but most of the TC's run away from their villages night times to come to more secure places.

The Third Vienna Agreement

Communiqué issued after the third phase of the intercommunal talks in Vienna

The third round of talks on Cyprus was held in Vienna from 31 July to 2 August 1975.

Preliminary discussions were held on the powers and functions of a federal government on the basis of the original Greek Cypriot proposals submitted at the first round, the Turkish Cypriot paper of the 21st of July and the more comprehensive paper presented by Mr. Clerides at this meeting. Further examination of this subject will continue in Nicosia with a view to a final discussion, together with the other aspects relating to the solution of the Cyprus problem, at the next round of talks. Mr. Denktash expressed his views on the comprehensive paper submitted by Mr. Clerides and also on his own proposals for a transitional joint government submitted by him on 18 July. Mr. Clerides referred to his previous position in this regard.

A discussion of the geographical aspects of a future settlement of the Cyprus problem took place. It was agreed that Mr. Clerides and Mr. Denktash would have further private talks on this subject prior to the fourth round of the Cyprus talks with a view to preparing the discussion of this matter which will take place at that time.

In addition the following was agreed:

The Turkish Cypriots at present in the South of the Island will be allowed, if they want to do so, to proceed North with their belongings under an organized programme and with the assistance of UNFICYP.


Mr. Denktash reaffirmed, and it was agreed, that the Greek Cypriots at present in the North of the Island are free to stay and that they will be given every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and freedom of movement in the North.

The Greek Cypriots at present in the North who, at their own request and without having been subjected to any kind of pressure, wish to move to the South will be permitted to do so.

UNFICYP will have free and normal access to Greek Cypriot villages and habitations in the North.

In connection with the implementation of the above agreement priority will be given to the re-unification of families, which may also involve the transfer of a number of Greek Cypriots, at present in the South, to the North.

The question of displaced persons was also re-examined.

Although both sides again affirmed that they were not knowingly holding undeclared prisoners-of-war or other detainees, it was agreed mutually to extend full facilities for searches in response to information given by either side.

Both sides declared that the Nicosia International Airport, which has been repaired by the United Nations under the agreement reached at the first round, can be used, as a first step, by the United nations for its needs.

The fourth round of talks will take place, due to the Secretary General’s commitments in regard to the General Assembly, at United Nations headquarters in New York on 8 and 9 September 1975.

2 August, 1975

[DT.]

Halil,

I hope you're not seriously telling me that 200,000 people left their homes because of an agreement between Clerdes and denktash.

40,000 troops were killing us....they didn't arrive with flowers but with M16's. The jets were not throwing food but napalm.

[halil]

Halil,

I hope you're not seriously telling me that 200,000 people left their homes because of an agreement between Clerdes and denktash.

40,000 troops were killing us....they didn't arrive with flowers but with M16's. The jets were not throwing food but napalm.

you see DT , u are not reading what i wrote .

''DT,
fair , scare , not trust force the people of these villages to left their homes. '' these quatation applies for both side of the Cypriots.

We should learn not to think everything not one sided my dear friend.

have a read what the GC man was saying our crew when they were visiting TC villages at south.

FLASU
On July 17, 2003, approximately 50 minutes after crossing over from the Kermiya border point, we reached Flasu, which is in the Solya Valley 45 km west of Lefke.
Up until 1964, Flasu was a mixed village but as a result of Greek Cypriot pressure Flasu was one of the villages that Turkish Cypriots were forced to migrate from. This time we were accompanied by Erol Mustafa, who is originally form Aybirfan. We parked our car in the car park in the village square. Our guide Erol Mustafa, who knows every inch of this place, told us, broken heartedly, that 29 years ago there used to be a Turkish coffee-shop and the cooperative building used to be in the place where we parked our car. We didn’t want to destroy his hopes at the start of our journey. He told us that he would take us to the school and mosque. The school and mosque buildings which were located on one of the highest points of the village, had been completely razed to the ground. The only thing that remained was a single carob tree and a fountain with broken bricks. The surroundings of the village were fairly green. Besides the numerous fruit trees, there were also many olive trees. We set off towards the east of the village to the street where Turkish Cypriots once used to live. Greek Cypriot families have now settled into the majority of the Turkish Cypriot homes. Although these houses are well-kept, many have also been destroyed and razed to the ground. After taking some photos in this region, we proceeded to search for the cemetery, as directed to us in Flasu.

CEMETERY TURNED TO AN IRRIGATION LAND FOR AGRICULTURE

While searching for the cemetery, which was supposed to be in the area where there was a big eucalyptus tree, we only find the tree. There was no cemetery nor any graves. While walking round the area, which looked as if it was empty, we saw a big tombstone on the left which belonged to Ali Osman Onbası, who had died on 29 July, 1947. This proved that the area we came from was once a cemetery, but had now been razed to the ground and no longer existed. One part of the cemetery area was also being used for agricultural purposes. A drop irrigation system had been set up inside.

In the southern part of the cemetery, when the dog, which was tied up under the shadow of a tree saw us, it became uncomfortable and started to bark.

OLD PHOTOGRAPH

After taking some photographs of the Flasu cemetery, which had been completely razed to the ground, we sat at a coffee-shop. A middle-aged Greek Cypriot called Loizou, who used to live in Lefke for years, approached us and greeted us in Turkish. He then continued to talk to us in Turkish. Loizou, told us that he had worked at the CMC mine for many years and had learnt Turkish during that period and had also had many Turkish Cypriot friends. Then, the Flasu mukhtar, Petro Eftimiadis, came next to us. He knew our guide Erol Mustafa. After hugging and shaking hands, they chatted for a while. Leaving us, the mukhtar came back two minutes later and gave Erol Mustafa a photograph showing Greek and Turkish Cypriot schoolchildren who were at the English school in 1958.

Upon receiving this meaningful photograph, Erol Mustafa was really pleased and thanked Eftimiadis.

YANNAKIS: "WE BROUGHT TURKEY HERE"

A Greek Cypriot named Yannakis Willidonis, aged between 45-50 came next to us. Throughout our conversation, Yannakis kept talking about the wrong policies and mistakes that the Greek Cypriots carried out against the Turkish Cypriots. We repeat once more, in Yannakis’ own words, how individuals reacted to the inhuman actions and why the Turkish Cypriots were forced to migrate from their villages: Saying: "We deserved what Turkey did to us. We oppressed the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey came to rescue them", Yannakis went on to explain how Turkish Cypriots were kidnapped from the villages during the years that EOKA was active: "At that time, the EOKA activists came to the village and visited the village shops. They threatened the Greek Cypriots not to sell anything to the Turkish Cypriots. Faced with this situation, my father started to buy six breads daily, instead of two. He would give four of the breads to his Turkish Cypriot friends. When the EOKA activists, who came to the village ten days later, found out what my father had been doing they prevented the Greek Cypriot shop owner from selling extra bread to my father. Afterwards, the Turkish Cypriots were forced to leave the village because they couldn’t put up with the pressures anymore."

Yannakis’ sincere confessions sounded interesting to us. Yannakis finished by saying: "There are many people who share my view, but they hesitate to speak." After finishing our chat, we proceeded towards the village of Aybifan, the village of President Denktas’ father.

[Get Real!]

cheap propoganda or not there is this evidence and it must be condemed with restitution if true. enclaves in the south, like enclaves in the north will demonstrate our respect for Human Rights, and their betterment with a change of our behaviour toward each other.

...as we have said before no side is blameless.

repulsewarrior ,
i agree with you on this one cheap propoganda or not . they are evidences, most of the TC's when they visited they are houses they have been in shock that they couldn't find their houses . this is the way , whats most of them speaking .when the tv series finishes i will put the pictures here and you can see damages very clearly .
both sides are quilty on this case .

Funnily enough they are in support of the Turkish invader who caused them to abandon their houses...

[GeorgeV97qaue]

...if we are talking about churches and mosques, visit teke if you love beauty and myth, it lives today as it has been from so long ago and we are all the better for it. never mind Athens, or do you mean to say that the closure of monestaries in Turkey is the blame? lacking the honesty VP i expect from you, you come at me like a tame book. needless to say that some churches would be respectfully used in praise to our same God. and there is no sin in giving shelter to the sheep in the cold winter storm...but what it seems to me that you are saying is that it is ok to tear down mosques, and it is ok as well for churches to be torn down too.

i am not asking you to be the whole Turkish Population, or even the representative of some Turkish Cypriot population, while i reread your post to figure an answer i can only say you read alot into what you think i'm thinking...the words we have written speak for themselves.

i think camus would be appalled at you, but you could be a hero in his book. ..extistential, but still dogmatic.

You have it wrong repulse,

GCs tear down/demolish/erase buildings

TCs reuse/convert buildings

Which of the above is more acceptable having a building to convert back to its former glory or having no building at all?

So can you please answer me one question. Why have all the graves been destroyed then. Is that to resue the ground or what. Please clarify.

VP you talk shite. Turks are animals end of.

[Rebel.Without.A.Pause]

MOSQUE USED AS TARGET RANGE

In a book entitled "Our values left in the South" written by Hasan Fehmi, it was written that there were bullet marks from 1964 on the Mosque. It was true, there were bullet marks on the Mosque. The bullet marks were everywhere, there were hundreds, both inside and outside of the building. The building was full of holes. While we were thinking if all of these bullet marks belonged to 1964 or not, we saw many empty bullets, hand grenade fuses and grips, smoke grenades and anti-tank ammunition carriages. Greek Cypriots had turned the village into a military exercise area.

After taking some photos, we moved towards the eucalyptus trees on the skirts of the peaks on the Northern side of the village. The cemetery was supposed to be there. When we got closer to the trees, we found no graves or a cemetery. Everything was razed to the ground. There was nothing, except from some broken tombstones. In short, we found out that the Arpalık cemetery was completely annihilated.

Halil, could this be the same mosque where the minerets where used by Turkish Cypriot terrorists to store machine guns and shoot innocent Greek Cypriots passing by? Did you expect Greek Cypriots not to fire back? lol

Halil, why dont you take your propaganda elsewhere??

[halil]

Since 1974 (but beginning as early as 1963, when populations began shifting as a result of intercommunal violence), Turkish Cypriot cemeteries in the southern part of the island and Greek Cypriot cemeteries in the northern part have been neglected, damaged or, in some cases, even demolished. For Cypriots now returning to their homes for the first time in 30 years, emotions are running high. For many, it is devastating to find that the burial places of their loved ones are in ruins or have disappeared. For all, the poor state of the cemeteries reinforces the perception that the communities do not respect each other.
Leaders on both sides have indicated that they would appreciate the international community's assistance with this emotionally charged and difficult issue. The Cypress Tree Project Secretariat will facilitate work to protect and/or rehabilitate cemeteries. Success stories will be highly symbolic -- demonstrating that Cypriots are becoming more tolerant of each other -- a step towards appreciating the multicultural nature of their society.

Objectives


Developing an inventory of all known cemeteries, including the status of their current condition;

Engaging the public through an outreach campaign including the opening of a hotline and launching of a website;

Developing project documents/proposals for protecting and/or rehabilitating cemeteries that both the local and international communities can support; and,

Implementing cemetery rehabilitation projects on behalf of local and international donors.


http://mirror.undp.org/cyprus/cypresstr ... index.html
http://mirror.undp.org/cyprus/cypresstr ... age27.html