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GREEK CYPRIOTS ATTACK AGAIN!!!!

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Postby miltiades » Mon May 05, 2008 10:10 am

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:A fair assessment DT , and one that most of us can understand , however it is up to school authorities and the parents to take it upon themselves and enlighten the students as why there are 40 thousand occupying troops in North Cyprus , why they are there and who invited them to come . There are many students that simply believe that Turkey invaded just out of the blue , when in fact Turkey was given the green light by the fanatics and the Greek Junta .The extremists were responsible 100 % , on both sides , but the extending of the invitation to invade Cyprus was by the kind invitation of the G/Cs and Greek extremists joining forces in order to achieve their dream in complete disregard of any one else on the island.These young students must be nurtured with responsible care ensuring they do not enter adulthood full of hate as for instance the likes of Eric amongst others.
We must rely on the school authorities not to stand by idly watching our young people developing into vigilantes .
The T/C students have a right of attending school without the fear of intimidation and hindrance , they did not cause the problem , on the contrary Cyprus must rely on all these students for its future.


In other words brainwash the kids into accepting your view on the Cyprus problem!

You Miltiades, who was brought up to rightfully question authority, such that you deem it acceptable to insult a traffic warden for doing his job, will now happily sit back and allow Turkey to do her "job" of ethnically cleansing half our island of its native people .... Nay, not just sit back, allow, endorse ..... but also produce justification for her doing this "job" ... when we all know full well she should not have been given this "job" of looking after the interests of the island in the first place.

And to think you were probably sober when you wrote that :roll:

Which part of my post are you disputing or misunderstanding Oracle after all you are aware of my esteemed respect of your brainpower.
Was it the fact , indisputable fact , that Turkey would NOT have invaded if the military coup against Makarios orchestrated by the Greek Junta had not occurred .
Is it not also not an indisputable fact that Turkey was indirectly given the green light in the absence of any Greek Junta coherent action following the military coup and the ensuing , yes it was , conflict between the coup supporters and the Makarios camp. Is not a fact that the elected President of the Republic of Cyprus had to escape with his life and aided by the British left the island. Do we tell our kids these facts , do we explain to them that there are two sides to a coin ??
As far as my position's credentials concerning the continued occupation of North Cyprus are concerned , all who take part in the political parts of this forum know full well , just as you should , where I stand .
I do not see just one side of the coin , I look at both , remembering that my allegiance is wholly to Cyprus and its people and the T/Cs are an integral part of the people of Cyprus. I challenge opinions that are detrimental to the future of Cyprus , where these opinions emanate from is of no consequence.
Many will recall my remonstrations with extremists such as Alexander , Malakas, Lysi , Scotseza and last but not list Eric the Plonker , not forgetting Zan , and of course VP of the past , I say past as I'm now seeing VP and Shah too as less intransigent and more accommodating.
I mentioned before that I have in my extended family , not the blood one ,
a wonderful man , a T/C who married my sister in laws sister , this Cypriot is representative of all that is good in Cyprus . A proud T/C without an iota of hatred for his compatriots , a man who also sees both sides of the coin.We get on fabulously well , we are both wise !

As far as your comment "And to think you were probably sober when you wrote that " insinuating that I spend my time in a less than a sober state , let me refrain from disassociating my self from something with which I have never been associated with !
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 05, 2008 10:11 am

The only ones on the wrong track, matey, are Turkey.

They should be used as an example along with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc. of what happens when a country is run by dictators who abuse Human Rights, commit Genocides and cock-a-hoot at International Law.

Your children will grow up ashamed of their Nation if they knew the truth, so keep brainwashing them with your propaganda lest they turn against you!
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 05, 2008 10:25 am

miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:A fair assessment DT , and one that most of us can understand , however it is up to school authorities and the parents to take it upon themselves and enlighten the students as why there are 40 thousand occupying troops in North Cyprus , why they are there and who invited them to come . There are many students that simply believe that Turkey invaded just out of the blue , when in fact Turkey was given the green light by the fanatics and the Greek Junta .The extremists were responsible 100 % , on both sides , but the extending of the invitation to invade Cyprus was by the kind invitation of the G/Cs and Greek extremists joining forces in order to achieve their dream in complete disregard of any one else on the island.These young students must be nurtured with responsible care ensuring they do not enter adulthood full of hate as for instance the likes of Eric amongst others.
We must rely on the school authorities not to stand by idly watching our young people developing into vigilantes .
The T/C students have a right of attending school without the fear of intimidation and hindrance , they did not cause the problem , on the contrary Cyprus must rely on all these students for its future.


In other words brainwash the kids into accepting your view on the Cyprus problem!

You Miltiades, who was brought up to rightfully question authority, such that you deem it acceptable to insult a traffic warden for doing his job, will now happily sit back and allow Turkey to do her "job" of ethnically cleansing half our island of its native people .... Nay, not just sit back, allow, endorse ..... but also produce justification for her doing this "job" ... when we all know full well she should not have been given this "job" of looking after the interests of the island in the first place.

And to think you were probably sober when you wrote that :roll:

Which part of my post are you disputing or misunderstanding Oracle after all you are aware of my esteemed respect of your brainpower.
Was it the fact , indisputable fact , that Turkey would NOT have invaded if the military coup against Makarios orchestrated by the Greek Junta had not occurred .
Is it not also not an indisputable fact that Turkey was indirectly given the green light in the absence of any Greek Junta coherent action following the military coup and the ensuing , yes it was , conflict between the coup supporters and the Makarios camp. Is not a fact that the elected President of the Republic of Cyprus had to escape with his life and aided by the British left the island. Do we tell our kids these facts , do we explain to them that there are two sides to a coin ??
As far as my position's credentials concerning the continued occupation of North Cyprus are concerned , all who take part in the political parts of this forum know full well , just as you should , where I stand .
I do not see just one side of the coin , I look at both , remembering that my allegiance is wholly to Cyprus and its people and the T/Cs are an integral part of the people of Cyprus. I challenge opinions that are detrimental to the future of Cyprus , where these opinions emanate from is of no consequence.
Many will recall my remonstrations with extremists such as Alexander , Malakas, Lysi , Scotseza and last but not list Eric the Plonker , not forgetting Zan , and of course VP of the past , I say past as I'm now seeing VP and Shah too as less intransigent and more accommodating.
I mentioned before that I have in my extended family , not the blood one ,
a wonderful man , a T/C who married my sister in laws sister , this Cypriot is representative of all that is good in Cyprus . A proud T/C without an iota of hatred for his compatriots , a man who also sees both sides of the coin.We get on fabulously well , we are both wise !

As far as your comment "And to think you were probably sober when you wrote that " insinuating that I spend my time in a less than a sober state , let me refrain from disassociating my self from something with which I have never been associated with !


I'll keep it short, as I should be elsewhere ...

What I do not comprehend Miltiades is how you can accept the authority of Turkey to do what it has done ... when you do not accept the authority of a traffic warden to do what he did!

The parallels are obvious ... they both thought they were doing their job.

Yet you justify Turkey but not the Traffic Warden.

You dispute that the Traffic Warden was fulfilling any purpose in traffic management ... yet you accept Turkey can issue authority over Cyprus.
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 05, 2008 10:30 am

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:A fair assessment DT , and one that most of us can understand , however it is up to school authorities and the parents to take it upon themselves and enlighten the students as why there are 40 thousand occupying troops in North Cyprus , why they are there and who invited them to come . There are many students that simply believe that Turkey invaded just out of the blue , when in fact Turkey was given the green light by the fanatics and the Greek Junta .The extremists were responsible 100 % , on both sides , but the extending of the invitation to invade Cyprus was by the kind invitation of the G/Cs and Greek extremists joining forces in order to achieve their dream in complete disregard of any one else on the island.These young students must be nurtured with responsible care ensuring they do not enter adulthood full of hate as for instance the likes of Eric amongst others.
We must rely on the school authorities not to stand by idly watching our young people developing into vigilantes .
The T/C students have a right of attending school without the fear of intimidation and hindrance , they did not cause the problem , on the contrary Cyprus must rely on all these students for its future.


In other words brainwash the kids into accepting your view on the Cyprus problem!

You Miltiades, who was brought up to rightfully question authority, such that you deem it acceptable to insult a traffic warden for doing his job, will now happily sit back and allow Turkey to do her "job" of ethnically cleansing half our island of its native people .... Nay, not just sit back, allow, endorse ..... but also produce justification for her doing this "job" ... when we all know full well she should not have been given this "job" of looking after the interests of the island in the first place.

And to think you were probably sober when you wrote that :roll:

Which part of my post are you disputing or misunderstanding Oracle after all you are aware of my esteemed respect of your brainpower.
Was it the fact , indisputable fact , that Turkey would NOT have invaded if the military coup against Makarios orchestrated by the Greek Junta had not occurred .
Is it not also not an indisputable fact that Turkey was indirectly given the green light in the absence of any Greek Junta coherent action following the military coup and the ensuing , yes it was , conflict between the coup supporters and the Makarios camp. Is not a fact that the elected President of the Republic of Cyprus had to escape with his life and aided by the British left the island. Do we tell our kids these facts , do we explain to them that there are two sides to a coin ??
As far as my position's credentials concerning the continued occupation of North Cyprus are concerned , all who take part in the political parts of this forum know full well , just as you should , where I stand .
I do not see just one side of the coin , I look at both , remembering that my allegiance is wholly to Cyprus and its people and the T/Cs are an integral part of the people of Cyprus. I challenge opinions that are detrimental to the future of Cyprus , where these opinions emanate from is of no consequence.
Many will recall my remonstrations with extremists such as Alexander , Malakas, Lysi , Scotseza and last but not list Eric the Plonker , not forgetting Zan , and of course VP of the past , I say past as I'm now seeing VP and Shah too as less intransigent and more accommodating.
I mentioned before that I have in my extended family , not the blood one ,
a wonderful man , a T/C who married my sister in laws sister , this Cypriot is representative of all that is good in Cyprus . A proud T/C without an iota of hatred for his compatriots , a man who also sees both sides of the coin.We get on fabulously well , we are both wise !

As far as your comment "And to think you were probably sober when you wrote that " insinuating that I spend my time in a less than a sober state , let me refrain from disassociating my self from something with which I have never been associated with !


I'll keep it short, as I should be elsewhere ...

What I do not comprehend Miltiades is how you can accept the authority of Turkey to do what it has done ... when you do not accept the authority of a traffic warden to do what he did!

The parallels are obvious ... they both thought they were doing their job.

Yet you justify Turkey but not the Traffic Warden.

You dispute that the Traffic Warden was fulfilling any purpose in traffic management ... yet you accept Turkey can issue authority over Cyprus.

I shall emulate you and keep it short. Balderdash ! An idiotic analogy for god sake woman !
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 05, 2008 10:33 am

Miltiades you are fighting a losing battle, GCs will never accept they caused the current division and that they lost the chance to build a united Cyprus because of their enosis dream.
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 05, 2008 10:45 am

Viewpoint wrote:Miltiades you are fighting a losing battle, GCs will never accept they caused the current division and that they lost the chance to build a united Cyprus because of their enosis dream.

VP , Wrong ! SOME G/Cs will never accept their share of responsibility .Most DO .
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon May 05, 2008 11:07 am

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Miltiades you are fighting a losing battle, GCs will never accept they caused the current division and that they lost the chance to build a united Cyprus because of their enosis dream.

VP , Wrong ! SOME G/Cs will never accept their share of responsibility .Most DO .


Where are they? most are so arrogant and big headed that even with blood on their hands and a dagger behind their backs will deny everything and blame the other side for all that went wrong in Cyprus.
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Postby miltiades » Mon May 05, 2008 11:10 am

Much has been posted on this forum , in a denigrating way , of my love of a product of numerous cultures.
Wine! It self a cultural product , praised for centuries by statesmen , philosophers , poets , physicians and in the case od Oracle , scholars and scientists. Millions of people world wide have wine as their primary beverage at mealtimes , as well as simply for the pleasure and diversion from life's tribulations that it brings.
It is drunk for its taste pleasures , not as a means of altering any one's mood. Wine has withstood the scrutiny of many responsible cultural or even scientific critics because its benefits have been recognised since civilization begun.
Wine is by far the most natural celebratory beverage for every occasion , that includes Champagne of course being a wine it self . The birth of my grandson was celebrated by my self and my dear friend Halil over a glass of wine ! One only mind you since we both were driving and responsible wine drinkers abide by common sense.
It is consumed at virtually every single celebratory event , engagements , weddings , anniversaries , family gatherings , even toasts between two governments !!!
Unlike Sex , another cultural worldwide event , wine can be consumed in public places without embarrassment , it can also be consumed in the presence of children . If a man admits to his love of wine , the beleaguered take up the "task" of denigrating this civilized encounter , in order that they may add credence to their feeble argument by calling the wine drinker as a drunk !! Therefore those that enjoy sex are all sex maniacs or sex perverts. !!!
Common sense tells us that wine will be with us forever as an integral part of our culture , western world that is , of our heritage and of the gracious way of life !
Cheers !!
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Postby xxNilxx » Mon May 05, 2008 3:00 pm

Militiades i'm not racist.. I used to really really want peace. But people on the forum don't understand the meaning of 'peace' and secondly whenever i come across G/Cs they always are filled with hatred and are racist (never from Greeks only G/Cs) ...
With all the recent G/C attacks and everything.. my opinions have changed.
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Postby kurupetos » Mon May 05, 2008 3:37 pm

xxNilxx wrote:Militiades i'm not racist.. I used to really really want peace. But people on the forum don't understand the meaning of 'peace' and secondly whenever i come across G/Cs they always are filled with hatred and are racist (never from Greeks only G/Cs) ...
With all the recent G/C attacks and everything.. my opinions have changed.


Should I :lol: or :cry: or :twisted: I am really :?
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