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[Viewpoint]

Can the input of the EU experts be impartial this time around or will the more of an hindrance as the TCs do not trust them either due to unkept promises, this will make the TC feel uncomfortable and even more on guard than usual therefore being more prone to demand more safeguards.

[Nikitas]

The experts are not there to decide anything. THeir role is to inform both sides if some option is or is not in accordance with EU rules. Their role stops there.

They will also inform the UN people who are hanging around the committees about possible clashes between what is being proposed and EU rules. The UN has been shown to choose ways which are not always in accord with EU rules or international law and the European Charter of human rights.

There are also some other players who are not visible but obviously must be somewhere in the background- the USA, Britain, Greece and Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

The experts are not there to decide anything. THeir role is to inform both sides if some option is or is not in accordance with EU rules. Their role stops there.

They will also inform the UN people who are hanging around the committees about possible clashes between what is being proposed and EU rules. The UN has been shown to choose ways which are not always in accord with EU rules or international law and the European Charter of human rights.

There are also some other players who are not visible but obviously must be somewhere in the background- the USA, Britain, Greece and Turkey.

Look at it this way, would you want Turkey to take part at the committee level?

[Jerry]

The experts are not there to decide anything. THeir role is to inform both sides if some option is or is not in accordance with EU rules. Their role stops there.

They will also inform the UN people who are hanging around the committees about possible clashes between what is being proposed and EU rules. The UN has been shown to choose ways which are not always in accord with EU rules or international law and the European Charter of human rights.

There are also some other players who are not visible but obviously must be somewhere in the background- the USA, Britain, Greece and Turkey.

Look at it this way, would you want Turkey to take part at the committee level?

A bit meaningless with 40,000 troops to influence the committees

[boomerang]

The experts are not there to decide anything. THeir role is to inform both sides if some option is or is not in accordance with EU rules. Their role stops there.

They will also inform the UN people who are hanging around the committees about possible clashes between what is being proposed and EU rules. The UN has been shown to choose ways which are not always in accord with EU rules or international law and the European Charter of human rights.

There are also some other players who are not visible but obviously must be somewhere in the background- the USA, Britain, Greece and Turkey.

Look at it this way, would you want Turkey to take part at the committee level?

Unfortunately indirectly they are as any decision or initiative from your side, has to be approved by them, especially the army...

[Viewpoint]

The experts are not there to decide anything. THeir role is to inform both sides if some option is or is not in accordance with EU rules. Their role stops there.

They will also inform the UN people who are hanging around the committees about possible clashes between what is being proposed and EU rules. The UN has been shown to choose ways which are not always in accord with EU rules or international law and the European Charter of human rights.

There are also some other players who are not visible but obviously must be somewhere in the background- the USA, Britain, Greece and Turkey.

Look at it this way, would you want Turkey to take part at the committee level?

Unfortunately indirectly they are as any decision or initiative from your side, has to be approved by them, especially the army...

The influence is one factor but having them physically take part and voice their opinions in favor of one side could cause unnecessary mistrust and breakdown.

[bill cobbett]

Naturally the "EU experts" will be impartial. It's just as well to bring them in at an early stage to ensure that any "agreement" is in agreement with EU laws to which the RoC has signed up to. No good working for months coming up with an agreement that would be challenged at the EU level.

Equally naturally the partitionists who are so keen on an "agreement" based on "equal communities" with a 50/50 share of political power are unhappy with a more powerful force ( bringing with it a "force majeure" if you will ) coming in to the discussions that is likely (imho) to advise that such a Bipedal/Bicycle solution would unfairly discrimate against EU citizens.

[Nikitas]

The UN people in Cyprus today said they weolcome having the EU experts on hand to advise on the compatibility of possible decisions with the EU legal order.

The experts do not take part in the committee work. They are able to advise if they are asked.

As for Turkey being asked to participate, if there was a reason to send in Turkish experts to advise then why not. In this case the problem is uniquely within the ambit of the EU area. These people are not partisan politicians, they are long term employees of the EU commission and know the rules that apply in the EU.

[Viewpoint]

The problem may not be the fact that the EU "experts" will assist if necessary, the problem is the trust factor, the EU have not kept promises made to the TCs ans this will mean that TCs will question everythng the EU try to help with as they are obviously not the best body to "assist " TCs.

[boomerang]

The experts are not there to decide anything. THeir role is to inform both sides if some option is or is not in accordance with EU rules. Their role stops there.

They will also inform the UN people who are hanging around the committees about possible clashes between what is being proposed and EU rules. The UN has been shown to choose ways which are not always in accord with EU rules or international law and the European Charter of human rights.

There are also some other players who are not visible but obviously must be somewhere in the background- the USA, Britain, Greece and Turkey.

Look at it this way, would you want Turkey to take part at the committee level?

Unfortunately indirectly they are as any decision or initiative from your side, has to be approved by them, especially the army...

The influence is one factor but having them physically take part and voice their opinions in favor of one side could cause unnecessary mistrust and breakdown.

So you saying they are coming to the meetings so they can fool everyone by lying to the UN and the tcs?
or
you saying that the laws of the EU are a one way stream?

Don't forget one day the tcs will be governed by the same laws once in the EU...
or
as per usual you expect a different treatment coz you are the chosen race?