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[bill cobbett]

The problem may not be the fact that the EU "experts" will assist if necessary, the problem is the trust factor, the EU have not kept promises made to the TCs ans this will mean that TCs will question everythng the EU try to help with as they are obviously not the best body to "assist " TCs.

"Trust" or "assistance" in the sense that the EU will favour one side or the other doesn't come in to it. If the EU has not kept some promises as VP claims, he should take this up with them separately.

I say again, as far as I see their role, the EU officials will advise ( if asked ) on whether any agreements comply with EU laws ( particularly human rights legislation ) and regulations.

[Viewpoint]

The problem may not be the fact that the EU "experts" will assist if necessary, the problem is the trust factor, the EU have not kept promises made to the TCs ans this will mean that TCs will question everythng the EU try to help with as they are obviously not the best body to "assist " TCs.

"Trust" or "assistance" in the sense that the EU will favour one side or the other doesn't come in to it. If the EU has not kept some promises as VP claims, he should take this up with them separately.

I say again, as far as I see their role, the EU officials will advise ( if asked ) on whether any agreements comply with EU laws ( particularly human rights legislation ) and regulations.

How can you trust a body that has not kept its promises to advise properly or impartially? The EU is on the GC side and we have no reason to trust their impartiality. Look at it from this side of the fence.

[bill cobbett]

The problem may not be the fact that the EU "experts" will assist if necessary, the problem is the trust factor, the EU have not kept promises made to the TCs ans this will mean that TCs will question everythng the EU try to help with as they are obviously not the best body to "assist " TCs.

"Trust" or "assistance" in the sense that the EU will favour one side or the other doesn't come in to it. If the EU has not kept some promises as VP claims, he should take this up with them separately.

I say again, as far as I see their role, the EU officials will advise ( if asked ) on whether any agreements comply with EU laws ( particularly human rights legislation ) and regulations.

How can you trust a body that has not kept its promises to advise properly or impartially? The EU is on the GC side and we have no reason to trust their impartiality. Look at it from this side of the fence.

Sorry VP, but I am of the view that this isn't a matter of fences or of taking one side or the other. This isn't a football match. I fear that, if asked, the EU experts will advise that a good deal of what you desire isn't compliant with EU laws. It's a matter of dry, unexciting, legal opinions that will be given.

It may also be worth bearing in mind that it is probably open to any EU citizen or group of citizens to take legal action if they felt any agreement breached EU laws.

[Viewpoint]

The problem may not be the fact that the EU "experts" will assist if necessary, the problem is the trust factor, the EU have not kept promises made to the TCs ans this will mean that TCs will question everythng the EU try to help with as they are obviously not the best body to "assist " TCs.

"Trust" or "assistance" in the sense that the EU will favour one side or the other doesn't come in to it. If the EU has not kept some promises as VP claims, he should take this up with them separately.

I say again, as far as I see their role, the EU officials will advise ( if asked ) on whether any agreements comply with EU laws ( particularly human rights legislation ) and regulations.

How can you trust a body that has not kept its promises to advise properly or impartially? The EU is on the GC side and we have no reason to trust their impartiality. Look at it from this side of the fence.

Sorry VP, but I am of the view that this isn't a matter of fences or of taking one side or the other. This isn't a football match. I fear that, if asked, the EU experts will advise that a good deal of what you desire isn't compliant with EU laws. It's a matter of dry, unexciting, legal opinions that will be given.

It may also be worth bearing in mind that it is probably open to any EU citizen or group of citizens to take legal action if they felt any agreement breached EU laws.

Bill look at it like this, you know a lawyer knows the law but applies it for the benefit of his client the client being the GCs, do you trust lawyers they manipulate and bend to law to win cases for their clients. Now do you get it? we have no reason to trust the EU.

[bill cobbett]

Much as I'd like to, I can't disagree with VP re comments on lawyers who will put forward their client's case, but I don't think this applies here. I think of it more like seeking a barrister's or counsel's opinion on the legal strength or otherwise of a case, one where there is an over-riding, professonal obligation to give an expert and honest appraisal.

[Viewpoint]

Much as I'd like to, I can't disagree with VP re comments on lawyers who will put forward their client's case, but I don't think this applies here. I think of it more like seeking a barrister's or counsel's opinion on the legal strength or otherwise of a case, one where there is an over-riding, professonal obligation to give an expert and honest appraisal.

The EU have shown that towards the TCs they cannot act imprtially due to GC influence eg financial aid and other promises so how can they expect the TCs to accept everything they put forward as gospel?

[boomerang]

Much as I'd like to, I can't disagree with VP re comments on lawyers who will put forward their client's case, but I don't think this applies here. I think of it more like seeking a barrister's or counsel's opinion on the legal strength or otherwise of a case, one where there is an over-riding, professonal obligation to give an expert and honest appraisal.

The EU have shown that towards the TCs they cannot act imprtially due to GC influence eg financial aid and other promises so how can they expect the TCs to accept everything they put forward as gospel?

The EU has shown that it ain't a lawless society...something you clearly have shown, you have no clue about...