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[Viewpoint]

Why are you throwing it back to Turkey? Can you educate me on what Talat has asked from the President of the RoC?

Dialogue and an acceptance that TCs have to be treated as equals, he has shown so far that he is ready to play ball and I hope he is brave enough to challenge our side by showing goodwill, bold moves are necessary to move forward and so far the fact that he is seeing us as equals shows that he is different from his predecessor the Turk hater Papadop.

VP no one is suggesting that the T/Cs are NOT equal .What is the hard reality is that the 80% of G/Cs are numericaly larger than the 20% T/Cs. That is a fact of life you can not equate the T/Cs numerically to the G/Cs
any more than you can equate the 20% Kurds to the 80% Turks.

We are not prepared to put our future solely in the hands of the GCs just like the Kurds do not want to put theirs in the hands of Turks, we as a community will never be equals to the GCs as they will use their numerical advantage to obtain whatever they wish against our wishes, where would that leave us? back to the dark ages of the 1960s which we do not want and will vote against.

[Viewpoint]

Well Talat may not be useless, the fact that mama Turka is calling the shots, should not come as a surprise at least to GC's. The TC's may not want to see the stark truth that they've only bee f***d over by their so called protector.

VP no one has ever said that TC's are not equal to GC's or any other race in the world for that matter. I agree with Miltiades above on the numerical majority vs minority.

Personally I believe you have evry right to work in the government system, private enterprise and share the wealth of the Island as any other citizen, pay the same tax and obey same laws. The rest is your assumption and may I say possibe paranoia.

Will there be equality of the 2 communities? this is where the problem lies and which you choose to avoid as of course acknowledging this would mean that you would have to equally share political power with us.

[humanist]

I believe that one person = one vote is sharing the power. The other option is 20% to 80% the other option that I personally would value all but a very few settlers stay each refugee from either side moves to their respective homes unless they otherwise state and there's a 20% Turkish speaking Cypriot, 20% other 60% Greek speaking Cypriot representation and sharing of power unlike you I acknowledge the other Cypriot minorities can you dig this or are you so narrow minded that it's all about TC's

[Viewpoint]

I believe that one person = one vote is sharing the power. The other option is 20% to 80% the other option that I personally would value all but a very few settlers stay each refugee from either side moves to their respective homes unless they otherwise state and there's a 20% Turkish speaking Cypriot, 20% other 60% Greek speaking Cypriot representation and sharing of power unlike you I acknowledge the other Cypriot minorities can you dig this or are you so narrow minded that it's all about TC's

Its 20% racist TCs vs 80% racist GCs voters, who do you think get to run the country?

[Nikitas]

VP has said:

"We are not prepared to put our future solely in the hands of the GCs " but has anyone ever suggested this? So far the only thing you hear from GC politicians of all parties is BBF as per the 1977 agreements, equal political status for the two communities. They add the overall system should be workable and viable.

I do not understand the concept of political equality for the two communities, but apparently GC politicians do and that is what they say they are aiming for.

[humanist]

Its interesting you conitue to avoid the representation of other minority groups in any discussin VP, not sure if that is an personal oversight or a community response.

[Get Real!]

...we as a community will never be equals to the GCs as they will use their numerical advantage to obtain whatever they wish against our wishes, where would that leave us?

If you don’t feel like a Cypriot but a "community" then you are not a Cypriot so it’s pointless in you continuing playing the same record on this forum. Let someone else have a go…

[humanist]

Re ti kanis awake?


I think you got it right VP, that is the key to the no solution no progress deal.

[miltiades]

I think what VP is proposing is that we abolish democracy and replace it with selective democracy where if other nations were to emulate and starting with Turkey , each KURD will be given 4 votes , the same number of votes will be given to the Tamils of Sri Lanca the American blacks will have more than 10 votes while the Asians of Britain will get roughly 10 votes. Is this what he calls political equality ?
The stark reality is that until the emphasis is shifted away from perceived motherlands and concentrates wholly on the Cypriot ethnicity , numerical minorities will exist. Nothing wrong with this , there are in the UK hundreds of minorities all part , those that wish , of the society at large.

[Viewpoint]

Its interesting you conitue to avoid the representation of other minority groups in any discussin VP, not sure if that is an personal oversight or a community response.

The real minorities have thrown their lot in with GCs, they gave up the opportunity for a voice a say and put their future in the hands of GCs just like the foreiners in the UK, we are more like the Scots and the Welsh, theres a big difference.