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The American plot to overthrow the Turkish Republic

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby observer » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:50 pm

Boomers
Ok agree back to basics...no more name calling...with you...but you started it...

I agree today there is an avenue worthwhile exploring with the current administrations...

But the articles regarding Turkey, as much as they might hurt, are in fact published in Turkey and 70 odd million people do read them...How come they don't get offended?...why would some people that are not even citizens of the Turkish state feel the need to get offended...

Further more, to my way of thinking, Turkey is an intregal part of the solution...surely you would admit that one day Turkey will be the largest trading partner of Cyprus...

How the hell then we cannot debate the pros and cons of Turkey if we have to continously walk on egg shells...

I understand as a TC you have an affiliation with Turkey, and you have her best interests at heart...The question is how is Turkey gonna move forward with out critisism?...


So pleased that I didn't log out at once as I'd have missed some sensible remarks. Must go though, May Day tomorrow and wife wanting me to get things ready for an early start.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:01 pm

Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
I know what, I think "boomers=the forum fart" is an Anzak veteran from Çanakkale and lost his legs as well as his brains and nuts in combat, so now he has no life but to try and get back at Turkey from behind his keyboard on a wheelchair!

It must be pretty nice to have your arse wiped by some one else every day "boomers=the forum fart", and I'm truly sorry for what happen to you, but thats what you get for sticking your nose into other peoples business!
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Making fun of ANZACs now are you? What have they got to do with your argument? Very low and sad. :roll: :roll:


Previous attempts to partition Turkey? Fucking Anzacs!

Do you even know what you are talking about? :lol:


Now you listen here you moron. I have been to a Gallipoli Service in 2001 as a member of The Australian Defence Force. I know what it is all about, and having served Australia for 11 years, I know exactly what the ANZAC spirit means and the ultimate sacrifices that these brave men made.

Australia has a very proud and strong military heritage. Usually, when Australia goes to war, it does so to fight against evil and to generally do good in this world. Australia does not invade countries with a population of a mere 600,000 and then continue the occupation for 34 years.

And as for invading Iraq and whether this was the right thing to do or not, let me just say we can continue this argument in 10 years when Iraq will evolve into a stronger, and more democratic country free from despots such as Suddam.


Fuck you dickhead! You want to do good you should have thought of that before eradicating the indegenous from that country, not when you were helping your imperialist brothers to partition the "evil" you god dam arrogant fuck!

What the hell was good about being totally wasted on the shores of another country? What were you actually doing there? You were practically used by other countries, just like the Greeks were!

What a waste of human life!

Im sure Iraq would be better off in the future with the help of her new capitalist exploiting bastards, but you tell that to the 600,000+ dead right now! Who the hell are you to decide peoples fate and their future?!?!

How proud do you feel now you twisted arsehole!


Thats right mate. We wanted to partition and destroy your fucking pathetic example of a country. You needed to be taught a lesson for alligning your pathetic and backward country with the Germans and we had to stop you bastards from trying to conquer Europe.

We only made a tactical mistake. Australia should never of attacked within the Dardanelle straights as the geography was our biggest adversary. If we attacked through Smyrna (Izmir) the outcome would have been very different.

Even with geography as our biggest adversary and not the undisciplined Turkish soldier, your beloved Turkish Army had higher casualties than us. Your soldiers were pathetic and lacked discipline.

Now for the Iraq war. You stated that there were 600,000 casualties in Iraq. Well that is very sad, and I would be the first to admit that. You must remember though, that this figure is highly contested. And whatever the casualty statistics are, they were not all as a result of the Australian intervention in Iraq. And even before the conflict commenced, you should be also sympathetic to Kurds who were attacked by the Suddam regime with chemical and biological weapons. Oh wait, Turkey is also attacking the Kurds in Northern Iraq this very day. I forgot that you fucking Turks consider those awful Kurds as sub human and not deserving of any human rights even within your fucked up and backward Turkey who wants to join the EU no less!


Well this pretty much underlines everything that is wrong with the world, thank you for confirming everything i think and have said about you.

You are just another racist murdering fuck!

The West and their quest to fight "evil" is nothing but a god dam fairy tale.

What the hell is "evil"? There is no such a thing, there is only good people and the difference in their understanding of what good is, thats all!

You are not in the position to decide what "good" is and empose it on others, no one is, hence why you dont have the right to interfere in other peoples business, its sad for anyone to die but i am especially glad that no Anzac made it out of there alive.

You, just like the Greeks, have faced a seriously humiliating defeat against a bearly armed and unprofessional army, thats because those people were fighting for their own country and freedom with whatever they got their hands on as opposed to you fighting for an empty and disgracefull cause.

That makes all the diffrence my friend, so you and your likes, ie. the US, are nothing to be proud of, but an utter disgrace for the human kind!

Good luck living with it!
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:01 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
I know what, I think "boomers=the forum fart" is an Anzak veteran from Çanakkale and lost his legs as well as his brains and nuts in combat, so now he has no life but to try and get back at Turkey from behind his keyboard on a wheelchair!

It must be pretty nice to have your arse wiped by some one else every day "boomers=the forum fart", and I'm truly sorry for what happen to you, but thats what you get for sticking your nose into other peoples business!
.

Making fun of ANZACs now are you? What have they got to do with your argument? Very low and sad. :roll: :roll:


Previous attempts to partition Turkey? Fucking Anzacs!

Do you even know what you are talking about? :lol:


Now you listen here you moron. I have been to a Gallipoli Service in 2001 as a member of The Australian Defence Force. I know what it is all about, and having served Australia for 11 years, I know exactly what the ANZAC spirit means and the ultimate sacrifices that these brave men made.

Australia has a very proud and strong military heritage. Usually, when Australia goes to war, it does so to fight against evil and to generally do good in this world. Australia does not invade countries with a population of a mere 600,000 and then continue the occupation for 34 years.

And as for invading Iraq and whether this was the right thing to do or not, let me just say we can continue this argument in 10 years when Iraq will evolve into a stronger, and more democratic country free from despots such as Suddam.


Fuck you dickhead! You want to do good you should have thought of that before eradicating the indegenous from that country, not when you were helping your imperialist brothers to partition the "evil" you god dam arrogant fuck!

What the hell was good about being totally wasted on the shores of another country? What were you actually doing there? You were practically used by other countries, just like the Greeks were!

What a waste of human life!

Im sure Iraq would be better off in the future with the help of her new capitalist exploiting bastards, but you tell that to the 600,000+ dead right now! Who the hell are you to decide peoples fate and their future?!?!

How proud do you feel now you twisted arsehole!


Australians eradicating some aboriginals was an attrocity indeed. It was an atrocity that Australia admits and even apologised for this despicable act.

When is Turkey going to acknowledge the 1,500,000 Armenian genocide and apologise for this despicable act? When are you going to admit to the slaughter of 300,000 Pontian Greeks? Never, because Turkey suffers from an inherant inferiority complex and paranoia. They do not call you "The Sick Man of Europe" for nothing you know.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:06 pm

When historians actually research it and prove it through records and evidence as opposed to right now where who ever pays more money in a lobby gets their cause advertised in the way they want it to be.

Armenians were no different than you by the way, just another sad and abused bunch of people who were armed and manouvered by others in order to serve their own goals for the partitioning of Turkey, just like the Kurds, they got what was coming tp them. Turkey has never felt the need to eradicate an enire race, hence why it cannot be genocide, plus most of them died of hunger and diseases in a part of Turkey where not even the Turkish soldiers themselves had enough supplies to lıve on.

Too bad and very sad indeed, but just goes prove one more time the kind of mentality you are preaching and the consequences of it.

Turkey cannot be divided by no one.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:12 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
I know what, I think "boomers=the forum fart" is an Anzak veteran from Çanakkale and lost his legs as well as his brains and nuts in combat, so now he has no life but to try and get back at Turkey from behind his keyboard on a wheelchair!

It must be pretty nice to have your arse wiped by some one else every day "boomers=the forum fart", and I'm truly sorry for what happen to you, but thats what you get for sticking your nose into other peoples business!
.

Making fun of ANZACs now are you? What have they got to do with your argument? Very low and sad. :roll: :roll:


Previous attempts to partition Turkey? Fucking Anzacs!

Do you even know what you are talking about? :lol:


Now you listen here you moron. I have been to a Gallipoli Service in 2001 as a member of The Australian Defence Force. I know what it is all about, and having served Australia for 11 years, I know exactly what the ANZAC spirit means and the ultimate sacrifices that these brave men made.

Australia has a very proud and strong military heritage. Usually, when Australia goes to war, it does so to fight against evil and to generally do good in this world. Australia does not invade countries with a population of a mere 600,000 and then continue the occupation for 34 years.

And as for invading Iraq and whether this was the right thing to do or not, let me just say we can continue this argument in 10 years when Iraq will evolve into a stronger, and more democratic country free from despots such as Suddam.


Fuck you dickhead! You want to do good you should have thought of that before eradicating the indegenous from that country, not when you were helping your imperialist brothers to partition the "evil" you god dam arrogant fuck!

What the hell was good about being totally wasted on the shores of another country? What were you actually doing there? You were practically used by other countries, just like the Greeks were!

What a waste of human life!

Im sure Iraq would be better off in the future with the help of her new capitalist exploiting bastards, but you tell that to the 600,000+ dead right now! Who the hell are you to decide peoples fate and their future?!?!

How proud do you feel now you twisted arsehole!


Thats right mate. We wanted to partition and destroy your fucking pathetic example of a country. You needed to be taught a lesson for alligning your pathetic and backward country with the Germans and we had to stop you bastards from trying to conquer Europe.

We only made a tactical mistake. Australia should never of attacked within the Dardanelle straights as the geography was our biggest adversary. If we attacked through Smyrna (Izmir) the outcome would have been very different.

Even with geography as our biggest adversary and not the undisciplined Turkish soldier, your beloved Turkish Army had higher casualties than us. Your soldiers were pathetic and lacked discipline.

Now for the Iraq war. You stated that there were 600,000 casualties in Iraq. Well that is very sad, and I would be the first to admit that. You must remember though, that this figure is highly contested. And whatever the casualty statistics are, they were not all as a result of the Australian intervention in Iraq. And even before the conflict commenced, you should be also sympathetic to Kurds who were attacked by the Suddam regime with chemical and biological weapons. Oh wait, Turkey is also attacking the Kurds in Northern Iraq this very day. I forgot that you fucking Turks consider those awful Kurds as sub human and not deserving of any human rights even within your fucked up and backward Turkey who wants to join the EU no less!


Well this pretty much underlines everything that is wrong with the world, thank you for confirming everything i think and have said about you.

You are just another racist murdering fuck!

The West and their quest to fight "evil" is nothing but a god dam fairy tale.

What the hell is "evil"? There is no such a thing, there is only good people and the difference in their understanding of what good is, thats all!

You are not in the position to decide what "good" is and empose it on others, no one is, hence why you dont have the right to interfere in other peoples business, its sad for anyone to die but i am especially glad that no Anzac made it out of there alive.

You, just like the Greeks, have faced a seriously humiliating defeat against a bearly armed and unprofessional army, thats because those people were fighting for their own country and freedom with whatever they got their hands on as opposed to you fighting for an empty and disgracefull cause.

That makes all the diffrence my friend, so you and your likes, ie. the US, are nothing to be proud of, but an utter disgrace for the human kind!

Good luck living with it!


Where the Germans not evil in WW1 and WW2? This is who Australia was fighting. A bunch of fascists murdering scum who wanted to conquer the world and were responsible of the Final Solution against the Jews who were put to death in gas chambers and ovens. That pretty well fits in with the definition of evil you would think. :roll: And you alligned your selves with these murderous german fascists!

And for your information, 90,000 ANZACs withdrew from Gallipoli under the cover of night from right under your noses by setting up dummies with guns that were connected with a bucket to the trigger and a drip of water to make these guns fire sporadically which caused your pathetic army to take cover like the cowards you are. Meanwhile, the RAN and RN where evacuating all the troops. You are a joke...
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:14 pm

shahmaran wrote:When historians actually research it and prove it through records and evidence as opposed to right now where who ever pays more money in a lobby gets their cause advertised in the way they want it to be.

Armenians were no different than you by the way, just another sad and abused bunch of people who were armed and manouvered by others in order to serve their own goals for the partitioning of Turkey, just like the Kurds, they got what was coming tp them. Turkey has never felt the need to eradicate an enire race, hence why it cannot be genocide, plus most of them died of hunger and diseases in a part of Turkey where not even the Turkish soldiers themselves had enough supplies to lıve on.

Too bad and very sad indeed, but just goes prove one more time the kind of mentality you are preaching and the consequences of it.

Turkey cannot be divided by no one.


HELLO. Anyone home!

Australians eradicating some aboriginals was an attrocity indeed. It was an atrocity that Australia admits and even apologised for this despicable act.

When is Turkey going to acknowledge the 1,500,000 Armenian genocide and apologise for this despicable act? When are you going to admit to the slaughter of 300,000 Pontian Greeks? Never, because Turkey suffers from an inherant inferiority complex and paranoia. They do not call you "The Sick Man of Europe" for nothing you know.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:47 pm

Right OK ill give that to you Paphitis, you lot are geniusses, specially with the bucket thing, what great heroes, shame you lost the war though, maybe next time!

It proves that no matter how much "brains" and technology you have got, it is never enough when fighting for an empty cause against people who are defending their lands.

Turkey has been the grave for many people of this kind and people never seem to learn and always feel like they can undermine the power of defending your own territory from emperialist bastards. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:When historians actually research it and prove it through records and evidence as opposed to right now where who ever pays more money in a lobby gets their cause advertised in the way they want it to be.

Armenians were no different than you by the way, just another sad and abused bunch of people who were armed and manouvered by others in order to serve their own goals for the partitioning of Turkey, just like the Kurds, they got what was coming tp them. Turkey has never felt the need to eradicate an enire race, hence why it cannot be genocide, plus most of them died of hunger and diseases in a part of Turkey where not even the Turkish soldiers themselves had enough supplies to lıve on.

Too bad and very sad indeed, but just goes prove one more time the kind of mentality you are preaching and the consequences of it.

Turkey cannot be divided by no one.


HELLO. Anyone home!

Australians eradicating some aboriginals was an attrocity indeed. It was an atrocity that Australia admits and even apologised for this despicable act.

When is Turkey going to acknowledge the 1,500,000 Armenian genocide and apologise for this despicable act? When are you going to admit to the slaughter of 300,000 Pontian Greeks? Never, because Turkey suffers from an inherant inferiority complex and paranoia. They do not call you "The Sick Man of Europe" for nothing you know.


I have answered you already, you are obvioulsy pretty used to being manipulated for other peoples causes, dont do the same for this one and be the advocate of these genocide merchants who are shamless enough to exploit the death of millions for political advantages.

This includes the Armenians themselves who are feeding off the deaths of their own people, unbelievable.

Of course no one really cares aobut the hundreds and thousands of other civilians who were slaughtered by the Armenians themselves.

No Sir, thats OK, because they were fighting the "evil"!

Pathetic...
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:08 pm

Paphitis wrote:Where the Germans not evil in WW1 and WW2? This is who Australia was fighting. A bunch of fascists murdering scum who wanted to conquer the world and were responsible of the Final Solution against the Jews who were put to death in gas chambers and ovens. That pretty well fits in with the definition of evil you would think. :roll: And you alligned your selves with these murderous german fascists!


So why did Greece decided not to help fight the evil Germans in WW2 until Hitler invaded Greece pipiface?

And for your information, 90,000 ANZACs withdrew from Gallipoli under the cover of night from right under your noses by setting up dummies with guns that were connected with a bucket to the trigger and a drip of water to make these guns fire sporadically which caused your pathetic army to take cover like the cowards you are. Meanwhile, the RAN and RN where evacuating all the troops. You are a joke...


You mean they realised they were in a hopeless position and couldn't win and decided to run, right?

I wonder who the dummies were, the ones who high tailed it or the ones put in their places? :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:11 pm

Paphitis wrote:
shahmaran wrote:When historians actually research it and prove it through records and evidence as opposed to right now where who ever pays more money in a lobby gets their cause advertised in the way they want it to be.

Armenians were no different than you by the way, just another sad and abused bunch of people who were armed and manouvered by others in order to serve their own goals for the partitioning of Turkey, just like the Kurds, they got what was coming tp them. Turkey has never felt the need to eradicate an enire race, hence why it cannot be genocide, plus most of them died of hunger and diseases in a part of Turkey where not even the Turkish soldiers themselves had enough supplies to lıve on.

Too bad and very sad indeed, but just goes prove one more time the kind of mentality you are preaching and the consequences of it.

Turkey cannot be divided by no one.


HELLO. Anyone home!

Australians eradicating some aboriginals was an attrocity indeed. It was an atrocity that Australia admits and even apologised for this despicable act.

When is Turkey going to acknowledge the 1,500,000 Armenian genocide and apologise for this despicable act? When are you going to admit to the slaughter of 300,000 Pontian Greeks? Never, because Turkey suffers from an inherant inferiority complex and paranoia. They do not call you "The Sick Man of Europe" for nothing you know.


Look who's talking about "inherant inferiority complex and paranoia". MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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