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[Tim Drayton]

As to "What for?", in my opinion, a genuine prospect for reunification will also be marked by desperate attempts by partitionists on both sides of the divide to mount acts of provocation in the hope of derailing the peace process. This will also be accompanied by attempts to spread disinformation. I would like to see independent confirmation of this story before accepting it at face value, although if it turns out to be true, then it can only be described as a pretty pathetic attempt to provoke a nationalistic response.

Tim ,
Have u read today Kıbrıs newspaper ?
İf it wasn't true , why their pictures are on the papers and why their families are attended at their court hearing .
what do you mean by independent confirmation ? do you think media men like these ones can give right information ?
One of them was doing his training at sigma TV also he has found drunk too .pls read the today papers and do your comments .Have you seen any news at GC's news papers today .Tell us what they were writing about it.
As i said before it was provokative attempt , no question for it .most of this channel broadcasting is always provokative .

Halil,
Please do not overreact. I would just like to see the same story reported in another source, and not just Asil Nadir's mouthpeice, before taking it as gospel. There are two sides to every story, and another source may approach it from a different angle.
As I said, with a new peace process now in motion, I expect to see both deliberate acts of provocation and the spreading of disinformation going on.

[halil]

I don't know what the big news is here for couple of graffiti artist doing their stuff by writing "Greece" on objects in the "TRNC". They should be made to clean all that stuff with their tooth brush as their punishment. The same also goes for the flags on the "Graffiti Mountain" which one of the flag's spells "Turkey". This is your classic case of tit for tat.

I see that they were ordered by the court to pay 1,875 new Turkish lira by way of compensation for the damage they caused. This is the equivalent of about 950 euro and it does seem a tad steep for wiping off five instances of graffiti. Also the report says that they were using black paint and they spraypainted onto an asphalt road twice. Black graffiti on black asphalt - how does that work?

The court apparently accepted their lawyer's defence that their acts were not premeditated, and they started spraying this graffiti after having drunk a lot of beer. Basically, they were required to pay compensation for the damage they caused, sign an undertaking to pay a fine of 2000 new Turkish lira each if they repeat the offence, the one who was driving was also fined for being over the limit, and then they were released.

One powerful argument that no premeditation was involved, it seems to me, was the colour of the paint. Had these two men travelled to Karpasia with the express intent of committing this act, I am sure they would have taken blue paint with them!

The material damage done here was limited, but what about the moral damage? One starts to ask whether the dream of Enosis is indeed dead.

Tim ,
what do you think about this latest news ? what kind of action is .....
RUMLAR, BİR ŞİŞE SUYA VE ÇOCUK AYAKKABISINA EL KOYDU-


Öte yandan Rum yetkililerin, KKTC\'den alışveriş yapan Rum vatandaşlarına yönelik sıkı araması sürüyor.

Edinilen bilgiye göre, Lefkoşa\'daki bir Türk dükkanından çocuk ayakkabısı alan bir Rum kadın, Lokmacı Kapısından Güney Kıbrıs\'a geçtiği sırada, sınır kapısındaki Rum görevliler tarafından arandı ve KKTC\'de aldığı çocuk ayakkabısına el kondu.

Rum polisi, Lokmacı\'dan Güney Kıbrıs\'a geçmek isteyen bir Kıbrıslı Türke de, "elindeki pet su şişesini Türk tarafından aldığını, onunla Güney Kıbrıs\'a geçemeyeceğini, onu görevlilere bırakabileceğini ve geri dönerken alabileceğini" söyledi.

Elindeki suyu Rum polisine vererek Güney Kıbrıs\'a geçen Kıbrıslı Türkün, geri dönüşünde suyunu isteyince, Rum polisinden, "Ne suyu, biz onu çöpe attık" cevabını aldığı öğrenildi.

GC lady bought a pair of shoes from TC's shop at Lokmacı gate shoes are taken away from her by the GC police man.

TC man tried to pass from north to south from lokmacı gate with a bottle of water in his hand . Police told him he can not pass because he ought this water from TC side and he can not pass with this bottle to GC side of the Nicosia . He left the water to police to collect it back when he returns back to north .When he returned back he asked his water back .police tald him he has trown it to dustbin.

they all looks funy but makes you think twice as well .

What for ......

[halil]

As to "What for?", in my opinion, a genuine prospect for reunification will also be marked by desperate attempts by partitionists on both sides of the divide to mount acts of provocation in the hope of derailing the peace process. This will also be accompanied by attempts to spread disinformation. I would like to see independent confirmation of this story before accepting it at face value, although if it turns out to be true, then it can only be described as a pretty pathetic attempt to provoke a nationalistic response.

Tim ,
Have u read today Kıbrıs newspaper ?
İf it wasn't true , why their pictures are on the papers and why their families are attended at their court hearing .
what do you mean by independent confirmation ? do you think media men like these ones can give right information ?
One of them was doing his training at sigma TV also he has found drunk too .pls read the today papers and do your comments .Have you seen any news at GC's news papers today .Tell us what they were writing about it.
As i said before it was provokative attempt , no question for it .most of this channel broadcasting is always provokative .

Halil,
Please do not overreact. I would just like to see the same story reported in another source, and not just Asil Nadir's mouthpeice, before taking it as gospel. There are two sides to every story, and another source may approach it from a different angle.
As I said, with a new peace process now in motion, I expect to see both deliberate acts of provocation and the spreading of disinformation going on.

Tim ,
news wasn't only at kibris .it was also on the tv channels too .
about paint color it was black .... it easy to see it on the gray asphalt .
most of them were on the walls ..... walls are white .....
it was on the Cyprus mail too .
we all know it was for provocation but we do get these things all the times .
attacking on the TC's cars , insulting they are own people at the boarders ...etc.... etc ....

[boomerang]

As to "What for?", in my opinion, a genuine prospect for reunification will also be marked by desperate attempts by partitionists on both sides of the divide to mount acts of provocation in the hope of derailing the peace process. This will also be accompanied by attempts to spread disinformation. I would like to see independent confirmation of this story before accepting it at face value, although if it turns out to be true, then it can only be described as a pretty pathetic attempt to provoke a nationalistic response.

Tim ,
Have u read today Kıbrıs newspaper ?
İf it wasn't true , why their pictures are on the papers and why their families are attended at their court hearing .
what do you mean by independent confirmation ? do you think media men like these ones can give right information ?
One of them was doing his training at sigma TV also he has found drunk too .pls read the today papers and do your comments .Have you seen any news at GC's news papers today .Tell us what they were writing about it.
As i said before it was provokative attempt , no question for it .most of this channel broadcasting is always provokative .

Halil,
Please do not overreact. I would just like to see the same story reported in another source, and not just Asil Nadir's mouthpeice, before taking it as gospel. There are two sides to every story, and another source may approach it from a different angle.
As I said, with a new peace process now in motion, I expect to see both deliberate acts of provocation and the spreading of disinformation going on.

Tim ,
news wasn't only at kibris .it was also on the tv channels too .
about paint color it was black .... it easy to see it on the gray asphalt .
most of them were on the walls ..... walls are white .....
it was on the Cyprus mail too .
we all know it was for provocation but we do get these things all the times .
attacking on the TC's cars , insulting they are own people at the boarders ...etc.... etc ....

Hey effendi your attention is needed here...el pronto

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17401

[Viewpoint]

I don't know what the big news is here for couple of graffiti artist doing their stuff by writing "Greece" on objects in the "TRNC". They should be made to clean all that stuff with their tooth brush as their punishment. The same also goes for the flags on the "Graffiti Mountain" which one of the flag's spells "Turkey". This is your classic case of tit for tat.

I see that they were ordered by the court to pay 1,875 new Turkish lira by way of compensation for the damage they caused. This is the equivalent of about 950 euro and it does seem a tad steep for wiping off five instances of graffiti. Also the report says that they were using black paint and they spraypainted onto an asphalt road twice. Black graffiti on black asphalt - how does that work?

The court apparently accepted their lawyer's defence that their acts were not premeditated, and they started spraying this graffiti after having drunk a lot of beer. Basically, they were required to pay compensation for the damage they caused, sign an undertaking to pay a fine of 2000 new Turkish lira each if they repeat the offence, the one who was driving was also fined for being over the limit, and then they were released.

One powerful argument that no premeditation was involved, it seems to me, was the colour of the paint. Had these two men travelled to Karpasia with the express intent of committing this act, I am sure they would have taken blue paint with them!

The material damage done here was limited, but what about the moral damage? One starts to ask whether the dream of Enosis is indeed dead.

You can make all the excuses you want the fact is that these acts are what people subconsiously think we have enough example on this forum who feel that Cyprus is a Greek island.

[boomerang]

I don't know what the big news is here for couple of graffiti artist doing their stuff by writing "Greece" on objects in the "TRNC". They should be made to clean all that stuff with their tooth brush as their punishment. The same also goes for the flags on the "Graffiti Mountain" which one of the flag's spells "Turkey". This is your classic case of tit for tat.

I see that they were ordered by the court to pay 1,875 new Turkish lira by way of compensation for the damage they caused. This is the equivalent of about 950 euro and it does seem a tad steep for wiping off five instances of graffiti. Also the report says that they were using black paint and they spraypainted onto an asphalt road twice. Black graffiti on black asphalt - how does that work?

The court apparently accepted their lawyer's defence that their acts were not premeditated, and they started spraying this graffiti after having drunk a lot of beer. Basically, they were required to pay compensation for the damage they caused, sign an undertaking to pay a fine of 2000 new Turkish lira each if they repeat the offence, the one who was driving was also fined for being over the limit, and then they were released.

One powerful argument that no premeditation was involved, it seems to me, was the colour of the paint. Had these two men travelled to Karpasia with the express intent of committing this act, I am sure they would have taken blue paint with them!

The material damage done here was limited, but what about the moral damage? One starts to ask whether the dream of Enosis is indeed dead.

You can make all the excuses you want the fact is that these acts are what people subconsiously think we have enough example on this forum who feel that Cyprus is a Greek island.

and the excuse here is

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17401

[Tim Drayton]

I don't know what the big news is here for couple of graffiti artist doing their stuff by writing "Greece" on objects in the "TRNC". They should be made to clean all that stuff with their tooth brush as their punishment. The same also goes for the flags on the "Graffiti Mountain" which one of the flag's spells "Turkey". This is your classic case of tit for tat.

I see that they were ordered by the court to pay 1,875 new Turkish lira by way of compensation for the damage they caused. This is the equivalent of about 950 euro and it does seem a tad steep for wiping off five instances of graffiti. Also the report says that they were using black paint and they spraypainted onto an asphalt road twice. Black graffiti on black asphalt - how does that work?

The court apparently accepted their lawyer's defence that their acts were not premeditated, and they started spraying this graffiti after having drunk a lot of beer. Basically, they were required to pay compensation for the damage they caused, sign an undertaking to pay a fine of 2000 new Turkish lira each if they repeat the offence, the one who was driving was also fined for being over the limit, and then they were released.

One powerful argument that no premeditation was involved, it seems to me, was the colour of the paint. Had these two men travelled to Karpasia with the express intent of committing this act, I am sure they would have taken blue paint with them!

The material damage done here was limited, but what about the moral damage? One starts to ask whether the dream of Enosis is indeed dead.

You can make all the excuses you want the fact is that these acts are what people subconsiously think we have enough example on this forum who feel that Cyprus is a Greek island.

Do not misunderstand me. I am not making excuses. I think this was an outrageous and insensitive act. I still can't help wondering if this was really just the impulsive act of two drunken young men, or if they were put up to it.

[DT.]

During the Apoel-Trabzonspor football match in Nicosia, the TC's that made the trip over along with the Turkish nationals (who mostly came through Larnaca airport) were waving "trnc" flags along with Turkish flags. No one was arrested, no flags were confiscated. (if they were they did not do a good job as I saw 3 such flags from the Apoel stands.)

Of course this wasn't the last time the "trnc" flag showed its face in GSP stadium. A while later an Omonoia supporter was pictured waving it during an Omonoia-Apoel game. Again the flag was not confiscated.

[Viewpoint]

I don't know what the big news is here for couple of graffiti artist doing their stuff by writing "Greece" on objects in the "TRNC". They should be made to clean all that stuff with their tooth brush as their punishment. The same also goes for the flags on the "Graffiti Mountain" which one of the flag's spells "Turkey". This is your classic case of tit for tat.

I see that they were ordered by the court to pay 1,875 new Turkish lira by way of compensation for the damage they caused. This is the equivalent of about 950 euro and it does seem a tad steep for wiping off five instances of graffiti. Also the report says that they were using black paint and they spraypainted onto an asphalt road twice. Black graffiti on black asphalt - how does that work?

The court apparently accepted their lawyer's defence that their acts were not premeditated, and they started spraying this graffiti after having drunk a lot of beer. Basically, they were required to pay compensation for the damage they caused, sign an undertaking to pay a fine of 2000 new Turkish lira each if they repeat the offence, the one who was driving was also fined for being over the limit, and then they were released.

One powerful argument that no premeditation was involved, it seems to me, was the colour of the paint. Had these two men travelled to Karpasia with the express intent of committing this act, I am sure they would have taken blue paint with them!

The material damage done here was limited, but what about the moral damage? One starts to ask whether the dream of Enosis is indeed dead.

You can make all the excuses you want the fact is that these acts are what people subconsiously think we have enough example on this forum who feel that Cyprus is a Greek island.

Do not misunderstand me. I am not making excuses. I think this was an outrageous and insensitive act. I still can't help wondering if this was really just the impulsive act of two drunken young men, or if they were put up to it.

The act may have been the product of excessive drinking but it reveals and backs up the claim of GCs like Kifeas and Piratis that Cyprus is a Greek island which is why we are divided today, this ideology is still very much alive even today in 2008 which will resurface very soon after a solution is agreed. The dangers still remain below the surface and getting rid the army which has suppressed these feelings in order to maintain a peaceful existence will be shatter if any agreement does not allow for Turkish security guarantees.

[boomerang]

versus keeping the army and killing gc civilians while on remand ha?