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[umit07]

Oracle Shit detector from Egypt = Medium to High

So how was Egypt?

Back from inspecting some camel shit hey?

Hello little pharaoh ...

Not back yet ... wish me luck ... lots of Muslims here ... keep telling me I look like Cleopatra reincarnated ... so shit-detector on high alert ...

Back to normality in Cyprus soon ....

xxx

I don't know if you look like her but you certainly do sound like her. Anyway try to have a good time and have a safe journey back home.

[halil]

Sigma, halil, are the bash patriots in the south. They are extremely nationalists and most were involved in EOKA B. They did not write "Cyprus" but "Hellas" on the boards. These are the people that ruled us for five long years. Now they are history.

Bananiot ,
really they are provocateur , they are trying to damage good will of the TC's and GC's. Do you know how the news was on the Turkish Tv channels from Turkey. It was saying , we are wondering what the Greeks lovers in Cyprus will say for this . With these people they wants peace .They should know that peace came to Cyprus at 74 .
most of the comments were unbelievable .Think about what the Turkish public in Turkey was thinking. here it is they are dream is still enosis .... etc...etc...They were showing writings saying HELLAS .İt was on the walls , bus stops , on the roads .these writings were in and out side of the few villages .imagine these stupid tv men how they were putting other GC's live in danger.God knows how many of them were visiting Karpasia and Apostilas Andrea at same day .Thanks god that security forces were very cool and everything is done smoothly .
Today they have been fined by the court.

[Piratis]

The majority of the people want a bizonal, bicommunal, federal Cyprus Piratis. That is why we kicked Papadopoulos out. Learn to live with this. This was the clear mandate Christofias got in the elections.

The difference between the so called archbishop and the bishop of Morphou is that the latter does not call names anyone who disagrees with him. You can have Chrysostomos. He is all yours and you can be proud of him. Since you are a self proclaimed democrat though, you should think hard of how he managed to become archbishop when he got only 6% of the vote.

Gr, this time we will not be able to destroy it, because of bizonality. The hot heads will sit quite.

Wrong.

The majority of people accept a BBF as the maximum compromise possible and clearly reject anything like the Annan plan. This is why we voted for somebody who rejects the Annan plan and anything similar to it and who promised that he will not allow for anything like that to be brought back.

BBF means: Two Cypriot component states of a true federation where the central goverment is elected democratically by the people as a whole and is above the component states.

Annan plan officially divided Cyprus among Greek and Turkish parts(=partition) and these separates parts where almost totally independent making the association between them a loose confederation and not a federation.

So stop trying to force on the Cypriot people what they rejected.

[miltiades]

The majority of the people want a bizonal, bicommunal, federal Cyprus Piratis. That is why we kicked Papadopoulos out. Learn to live with this. This was the clear mandate Christofias got in the elections.

The difference between the so called archbishop and the bishop of Morphou is that the latter does not call names anyone who disagrees with him. You can have Chrysostomos. He is all yours and you can be proud of him. Since you are a self proclaimed democrat though, you should think hard of how he managed to become archbishop when he got only 6% of the vote.

Gr, this time we will not be able to destroy it, because of bizonality. The hot heads will sit quite.

Wrong.

The majority of people accept a BBF as the maximum compromise possible and clearly reject anything like the Annan plan. This is why we voted for somebody who rejects the Annan plan and anything similar to it and who promised that he will not allow for anything like that to be brought back.

BBF means: Two Cypriot component states of a true federation where the central goverment is elected democratically by the people as a whole and is above the component states.

Annan plan officially divided Cyprus among Greek and Turkish parts(=partition) and these separates parts where almost totally independent making the association between them a loose confederation and not a federation.

So stop trying to force on the Cypriot people what they rejected.

The AP , as Piratis said , was NOT a unifying Plan but a plan that offered international recognition and legality to the Turkish invasion of 1974 , offering Turkey more legal rights of intervention any where in Cyprus. It most certainly wasnt a unifying plan but partition disguised as Unification.
I particularly objected to the provisions applicable to the Cypriot Police stations which clearly defined that 50 % of Police stations would fly the Greek flag and the other 50% the Turkish !! So much for a united independent Cyprus !!!

[Piratis]

The only thing that disquised the Annan plan as a unification plan was its label. Nothing more. In everything else there was a clear separation and division in everything, and even worst this division was disporortional giving to the TC minority and Turkey huge gains on our loss. Only an idiot would vote in favor of that plan (unless he is a Turk of course).

[miltiades]

Pauul , Eric BigAll , the holy trio of Plonkers !!

You must be pissed again you senile old git, I'm not "Eric BigAll".

It's not "Pauul" either, it's "PAAUL" you dumb twat.

Drunken old senile git.

Whats the bloody difference anyway you three are all the same Plonkers
each full of venom and crap. Come to think of it how comes all three of you are such bloody fascists .I know more than 100 Turkish Cypriots by name and hundreds more by face, yet I have NEVER met any nasty obnoxious T/Cs like you , how come all three of you are such first class Plonkers !! As far as you Mr Plonker I would like to bet that you know less T/Cs than I know . O n this forum we have had many Plonkers G/Cs and some T/Cs but most T/Cs are on balance amicable sensible and are able to present their point of view in a respectable manner.Along come the holy trio and the shit hits the fan . You are such a decrepit individual and should be ashamed that you nothing decent to say about anyone who doesn't share your sick ideals , here have some more ENOSIS , EOKA , GENOCIDE !!!! Get lost Plonker and take the other two with you !!
ps .just noticed all three Plonkers share the same avatar , a foreign flag !!!

[miltiades]

The only thing that disquised the Annan plan as a unification plan was its label. Nothing more. In everything else there was a clear separation and division in everything, and even worst this division was disporortional giving to the TC minority and Turkey huge gains on our loss. Only an idiot would vote in favor of that plan (unless he is a Turk of course).

I agree with you on most points apart from the majority and minority question. Maybe I'm influenced by the British political scene where the Scots Irish and Welsh are never referred to as minorities , the Asians and other immigrants are referred to as ethnic minorities which is correct but indigenous British people such as the Scots Irish and Welsh are not.The same applies to the T/Cs , they are Cypriots first and as such are in the majority just as the G/Cs are . Lets make them feel more Cypriots by abandoning some of our own perceptions of the identity of Cyprus. Let us pay homage to the Cypriot image and identity leaving aside the well nurtured opposite !

[Bananiot]

Your a worthy pupil of your fascist protege Piratis. You claim that 24% of the Greek Cypriots that voted for the Annan Plan are either fools or Turks. You never learn do you? Yet you claim to be a democrat but you cannot stand the different opinion. Very sad indeed.

Miltiades, are you also for a unitary state? Obviously BBF has a number of unpalatable provisions (especially for those that have been brought to believe that "the Turk is nothing more than a barbarian savage") but this is the price we will pay for our bad past. It is a small price if you ask me, but please do tell me, are you also pro unitary state? Of course, if you are, I will ask you how you propose we go about it achieving it.

[miltiades]

My upbringing determined and honed my perception of T/Cs. I understand and accept that had I lived in Cyprus during the years of conflict maybe I would feel differently . I grew up in the UK , made friends with Turkish Cypriots totaly oblivious to the intercommunal conflict that was taking place in Cyprus.
I most certainly do not consider the T/Cs to be anything other than my fellow Cypriot compatriots strengthened by my unshakable belief that we are predominantly Cypriots and not Greeks or Turks. Mt respect of the Cypriot ethnicity knows no boundaries .All Cypriots are my compatriots , no minorities or majorities. Kafenes is an Armenian Cypriot , he is not in the minority since he is a Cypriot , that applies equally to Bir , Kikapu , Halil , Iceman and so many other Cypriots. Why on earth should I renounce my birthright of being a Cypriot.
I do not find BBF unacceptable , I do however find BBF based on "divisionist" grounds as dangerous for our future generations. Utopia does not exist , but common sense and responsibility does.
I'm a pragmatist and accept there are as your signature says , no solutions but options , and for the sake of our future generations prepared to challenge those options with a view of arriving at the most widely accepted options satisfying the concerns of our people.

[Bananiot]

Bizonality means two zones Miltiades and in each zone the respective community will enjoy majority status. Is that okay with you?