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GR

Last chance? Really? I didn't know there was a deadline that render UN resolutions expired!

Talat makes it up as he goes along. He believes he has control in the situation. The funny thing is he holds a pretty big part of the solution

No,dear humanist...I wish he did make it up as he went along...He gets told what to say when he goes to Turkey...He keeps repeating it till he is told what to say next....He holds no part at all in the solution...

[Get Real!]

GR

Last chance? Really? I didn't know there was a deadline that render UN resolutions expired!

Talat makes it up as he goes along. He believes he has control in the situation. The funny thing is he holds a pretty big part of the solution

Talat doesn't even decide what colour tie he's going to wear on the day...

[Viewpoint]

Turkish Cypriot leader sees June talks as last chance

Last chance? Really? I didn't know there was a deadline that render UN resolutions expired!

They are just hoping that it is the last chance just to scare us so that we concede and accept more of their unnacceptable demands.

Pres X has made it well known to the whole world that he wants to solve the Cyprus problem ASAP. But at the same time we will not accept unnacceptable demands that are designed to hold Cypriots under siege and hostage and which serves no ones interest except for Turkey's.

If unnacceptable demands are made, the talks will fail and it will be Turkey that will be held accountable and not the RoC. They would like to threaten us that when the talks fail, that the whole world will be rushing to recognise their illegal regime. Somehow, I do not think this will happen any time soon.

So keep on dreaming VP.

Your threats are not working.

So you feel its not important who stalls or does not compromise, Turkey will be blamed anyway...it doesnt work that way, which ever side does not work towards a solution or does not compromise enough will be seen quite clearly by the EU and UN and if the GC reject a new plan or stall they will pay the price, can you see the UN attempted a solution for a 3rd time?

[Jerry]

Turkish Cypriot leader sees June talks as last chance

Last chance? Really? I didn't know there was a deadline that render UN resolutions expired!

They are just hoping that it is the last chance just to scare us so that we concede and accept more of their unnacceptable demands.

Pres X has made it well known to the whole world that he wants to solve the Cyprus problem ASAP. But at the same time we will not accept unnacceptable demands that are designed to hold Cypriots under siege and hostage and which serves no ones interest except for Turkey's.

If unnacceptable demands are made, the talks will fail and it will be Turkey that will be held accountable and not the RoC. They would like to threaten us that when the talks fail, that the whole world will be rushing to recognise their illegal regime. Somehow, I do not think this will happen any time soon.

So keep on dreaming VP.

Your threats are not working.

So you feel its not important who stalls or does not compromise, Turkey will be blamed anyway...it doesnt work that way, which ever side does not work towards a solution or does not compromise enough will be seen quite clearly by the EU and UN and if the GC reject a new plan or stall they will pay the price, can you see the UN attempted a solution for a 3rd time?

Just about the daftest thing you have ever written on this site VP. Turkey will ask for something it knows the GCs will never accept, it offers a slightly modified but still unacceptable "compromise" and then blames the GCs for the breakdown. If you had ever followed in detail how the Annan plans were formulated you would see the that their main objectives were to appease Turkey. If Turkey can't be persuaded to open its ports to Cyprus as the EU demands how on earth is it going to compromise in any forthcoming talks. I hope I'm wrong but in my opinion the talks are doomed unless Turkey lets Talat do the negotiating unhindered.

PS Do you know if Zan is OK I have not seen him posting for a while

[observer]

It would be interesting to know what you think all these unacceptable demands that Talat is going to make are. So far as I am aware, all he has asked for to date is a bizonal, bicommunal federation, which I think every GC leader has said he wanted too, except for Makarios.

When the UN 'filled in the blanks' after the negotiations, the UN, the EU and most of the world community considered the resulting Plan fair and acceptable. So far as I know, neither Christofias or Papadopoulos have ever said in detail what they found unacceptable.

I hear lots of references to 'a virgin birth', but when it comes to details, the virgin birth of the new Cyprus remains as mysterious as the virgin birth of Christ.

[Paphitis]

Turkish Cypriot leader sees June talks as last chance

Last chance? Really? I didn't know there was a deadline that render UN resolutions expired!

They are just hoping that it is the last chance just to scare us so that we concede and accept more of their unnacceptable demands.

Pres X has made it well known to the whole world that he wants to solve the Cyprus problem ASAP. But at the same time we will not accept unnacceptable demands that are designed to hold Cypriots under siege and hostage and which serves no ones interest except for Turkey's.

If unnacceptable demands are made, the talks will fail and it will be Turkey that will be held accountable and not the RoC. They would like to threaten us that when the talks fail, that the whole world will be rushing to recognise their illegal regime. Somehow, I do not think this will happen any time soon.

So keep on dreaming VP.

Your threats are not working.

So you feel its not important who stalls or does not compromise, Turkey will be blamed anyway...it doesnt work that way, which ever side does not work towards a solution or does not compromise enough will be seen quite clearly by the EU and UN and if the GC reject a new plan or stall they will pay the price, can you see the UN attempted a solution for a 3rd time?

No. But I can see the status quo continueing.

And how can you say that. Pres X is so pro solution and is seen as just that in world public opinion. So if the talks fail, do not expect the UN and world opinion to blame Pres X.

[Jerry]

It would be interesting to know what you think all these unacceptable demands that Talat is going to make are. So far as I am aware, all he has asked for to date is a bizonal, bicommunal federation, which I think every GC leader has said he wanted too, except for Makarios.

When the UN 'filled in the blanks' after the negotiations, the UN, the EU and most of the world community considered the resulting Plan fair and acceptable. So far as I know, neither Christofias or Papadopoulos have ever said in detail what they found unacceptable.

I hear lots of references to 'a virgin birth', but when it comes to details, the virgin birth of the new Cyprus remains as mysterious as the virgin birth of Christ.

They will want to keep troops on the island. They will want most of the settlers to stay. They will want a disproportionate share of the island and power. They will not allow most GCs to return home. They will not compensate GCs for what they did in 1974, shall I go on?

Talat may do the talking but he takes his orders fron Ankara.

I don't care what the world community thought of the Annan plan, they would not like the plan applied to themselves in their own countries.

Virgin birth; my views were posted on this thread previous page, Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:14 am

[Eric dayi]

Actually, their plans are EVEN LOWER than that! They are hoping, and will ensure that the attempt fails so that they can then turn around and say…

“We tried but it didn’t work so now we want to be recognized!”

…but as per usual there won’t be any recognition for two reasons…

1. The chances of reversing the UN resolutions in favor of a handful of TC criminals running the “TRNC” are next to zero.

Why don't you try using your mouth for a change instead of talking out of what you should be sitting on GR?

2. Cyprus’ shipping and financial services industries are far more important to most countries in the world than Turkey.

The "success" of the "shipping industry" of the so-called "RoC" is dependant on Turkey opening it's ports and the EU don't give a damn under which country's flag the ships carrying the oil sail. If the EU did they would have forced Turkey to pull out of Cyprus and open it's ports for the so-called "RoC".

So anyone who thinks that the so-called "RoC" is far more important than the oil from Turkey is delusional and only fooling him/herself.

[miltiades]

Actually, their plans are EVEN LOWER than that! They are hoping, and will ensure that the attempt fails so that they can then turn around and say…

“We tried but it didn’t work so now we want to be recognized!”

…but as per usual there won’t be any recognition for two reasons…

1. The chances of reversing the UN resolutions in favor of a handful of TC criminals running the “TRNC” are next to zero.

Why don't you try using your mouth for a change instead of talking out of what you should be sitting on GR?

2. Cyprus’ shipping and financial services industries are far more important to most countries in the world than Turkey.

The "success" of the "shipping industry" of the so-called "RoC" is dependant on Turkey opening it's ports and the EU don't give a damn under which country's flag the ships carrying the oil sail. If the EU did they would have forced Turkey to pull out of Cyprus and open it's ports for the so-called "RoC".

So anyone who thinks that the so-called "RoC" is far more important than the oil from Turkey is delusional and only fooling him/herself.

Would that so called ROC be the Republic whose passports and IDs are held by some 50 thousand T/Cs , just imagine if a T/C was to travel to any one of the entire world's nations , show his ROC passport and then told by some stupid immigration officer that this so called ROC passport isn't recognised !!! I bet that immigration officers name is Eric Plonker !!!"
ps.Do you hold a so called ROC passport ??

[Eric dayi]

It would be interesting to know what you think all these unacceptable demands that Talat is going to make are. So far as I am aware, all he has asked for to date is a bizonal, bicommunal federation, which I think every GC leader has said he wanted too, except for Makarios.

When the UN 'filled in the blanks' after the negotiations, the UN, the EU and most of the world community considered the resulting Plan fair and acceptable. So far as I know, neither Christofias or Papadopoulos have ever said in detail what they found unacceptable.

I hear lots of references to 'a virgin birth', but when it comes to details, the virgin birth of the new Cyprus remains as mysterious as the virgin birth of Christ.

They will want to keep troops on the island. They will want most of the settlers to stay. They will want a disproportionate share of the island and power. They will not allow most GCs to return home. They will not compensate GCs for what they did in 1974, shall I go on?

Talat may do the talking but he takes his orders fron Ankara.

I don't care what the world community thought of the Annan plan, they would not like the plan applied to themselves in their own countries.

Virgin birth; my views were posted on this thread previous page, Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:14 am

Have you also a selective memory Jerry?

What about the GCs wanting to be the sole rulers of the whole island?

What about the settlers in the Greek South Cyprus?

What about compensation for what the Greeks and GCs did to us TCs for 11 long years from 1963 to 1974?

Funny that everyone else in the world thought it was a good idea except the Greeks and GCs but we TCs still thanks them for their "OXI", it sure as hell saved our bacon.