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[Piratis]

Well here's a few indisputable facts for you smokejumper:-

Cyprus was the only British colony not to achieve majority rule on independence
Turkish Cypriots are 18% of the population, they occupy 37% of the island.
Turkey has/had the legal right to intervene in Cyprus, it had no right to partition the island.
Turkey has, against international law, populated the north Cyprus with mainland Turks.
According to the 1960 Constitution the Turkish Cypriot Vice President could veto important legislation.
Turkey systematically looted the deserted town of Famagusta and to this day denies its inhabitants return.
The Tukish Cypriots are heavily subsidised by Turkey, their "independent" state is not economically viable.
The ECHR has made Turkey pays hundreds of thousands £££ to Greek Cypriots as compensation.

There's loads more but try the above for starters.

You forgot to add that had Turkey not intervened in 1974 the TCs would have all been butcherd by the GCs and the Greeks who invaded Cyprus in 1963 Jerry.

You also forgott to add that all the above is only because the GCs and the Greeks wanted ENOSIS and would have murdered all the Tcs to get their wish.

PS VP There is still a significant number of Turks on Rhodes

There are no Turks in Rhodes or anywhere in Greece Jerry, try not to lie next time.

Cypriots never went out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us and killing Cypriots by the 1000s or even 10s of thousands at a time. the Turks actually butchered 1000s of Cypriots, and all you have to say to excuse your crimes is "GCs would have..." theories.

[Eric dayi]

Here are you dates Eric:

After 1400 B.C., Mycenaean and Mycenaean-Achaean traders from the northeastern Peloponnesus began regular commercial visits to the island. Settlers from the same areas arrived in large numbers toward the end of the Trojan War (traditionally dated about 1184 B.C.). Even in modern times, a strip of the northern coast was known as the Achaean Coast in commemoration of those early settlers. The newcomers spread the use of their spoken language and introduced a script that greatly facilitated commerce. They also introduced the potter's wheel and began producing pottery that eventually was carried by traders to many mainland markets. By the end of the second millennium B.C., a distinctive culture had developed on Cyprus. The island's culture was tempered and enriched by its position as a crossroads for the commerce of three continents, but in essence it was distinctively Hellenic.

Do you disagree with that Eric? Whats your theory then? That while Cyprus was ruled by British, Ottomans, Persians, Franks etc, just like magic the people of Cyprus started to speak Greek out of the blue?

We are Greek, we are the 82% of the population and we have been here for many 1000s of years.

Compare that with Turkey: Turks are less than 80% of the people in Turkey and they have been there for just 600 years.

Cyprus is many times more Greek, than Turkey is Turkish.

"settlers" are not the owners of the land they settle in, so no, I don't agree with your lies. Have another go at lying.

[miltiades]

According to VP no Greek territory or island should have been liberated from foreign rule because Turkish minorities were formed on them during the Ottoman rule.

Nobody ever asked for the Turkish minority to be "wiped out". On the contrary it is the Turkish Cypriot minority who attacked Greek Cypriots in 1958, demanding that the Greek Cypriots should be wiped out from the north part of their country in order to artificially create some Turkish state there. This is a criminal plan which they put into action in 1974.

The only thing that Cypriots ever asked for was for foreigners to allow the Cypriot people to democratically decide the destiny of their own island. Unfortunately this was denied to us.

We seek no vengeance at all. Seeking democracy were the human rights of all are respected is called "vengeance"? We do not ask for the punishment of anybody for what happened in the past. We are willing to forgive all, as long as we are finally allowed to have democracy and human rights without foreign troops on our lands.

On the other hand the Turks want to continue the illegal occupation of our lands, and to continue violating our rights. So who is looking for vengeance viewpoint? You are!

I want protection from a community who wants to give 100% of Cyprus to Greece and are prepared to wipe out anyone in their way. You can thank the Turkish Army for 34 years of peaceful exsistence, where no one was killed for teir ethnic origins or their belief that Cyprus should not be given to Greece.

When was Cyprus ever Greek??

Cyprus has been Greek for 1000s of years. It has a Greek culture going back 3500 years and its population is 82% Greek.

Rubbish! Cyprus has never been Greek and NEVER has been a Gree island. If you have any dates when Cyprus was a part of Greece let us see these dates. But try not to re-write history. :wink::wink:

Nobody wanted to wipe out your minority.

You personally maybe didn't because you weren;t even born back in the 50s/60/ but the majority of your were prepared and even attempted to genoicde us TCs for their ENOSIS dream. One of them even still posts in this forum and has admitted he was an ENOSIS supporter who probably killed TCs for his dream.

What we wanted was simply the freedom of Cyprus as it happened to several other Greek islands and territories before. And then you attacked us again...

Freedom for Cyprus like other Greek islands?

Since when is ENOSIS with Greece "freedom for Cyprus" FFS?

But even when we compromised our rights, and we accepted for Cyprus not to be united with the rest of Greece, you still collaborated with the British in order to give to Cyprus a fake undemocratic "independence" instead of a true one as it happens in all other countries of the world, so Turkey and UK could keep their control over our island.

I think everyone here has realised that you are getting your knickers in a twist while trying to re-write history and lie.

Have another go at lying maybe you'll get it right next time. :roll::roll::rol::roll:

The Cypriots will continue to fight for democracy and human rights, and for our self-determination on our own island.

The right and "democratic" thing to do back in 1963 was to honour your signature you put on the 1960 agrement and not try ENOSIS by murdering your Turkish Cypriot neighbours for your ENOSIS dream.

First you tried to take away our homes, lands, lives and democratic human rights and now you cry crocodile tears for yours? You are a bloody joke, one that should be laughed at for half a minute and then forgotten.

All foreign troops should leave from our country.

You GCs brought in the first Greek FOREIGN troops to help you with genociding us TCs now show some good will and get rid of them. Send them back to where they belong if you are serious about peace with us TCs. As long as the FOREIGN Greek trops are in Cyprus the Turkish Army isn't going anywhere, get that in to your thick skull.

Mr Plonker at it again , genocide , my arse .Plonker go join your motherland , Cyprus has always belonged to the Cypriots not the Turks or The Greeks but to Cypriots. It appears to me that you are no more of a Cypriot than Coffee Annan !!
CYPRUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN CYPRIOT !!!!

[Get Real!]

Your history of Cyprus is so corrupt it beggars belief.

Why don't you post your version of the events instead of barking from the side?

[Eric dayi]

According to VP no Greek territory or island should have been liberated from foreign rule because Turkish minorities were formed on them during the Ottoman rule.

Nobody ever asked for the Turkish minority to be "wiped out". On the contrary it is the Turkish Cypriot minority who attacked Greek Cypriots in 1958, demanding that the Greek Cypriots should be wiped out from the north part of their country in order to artificially create some Turkish state there. This is a criminal plan which they put into action in 1974.

The only thing that Cypriots ever asked for was for foreigners to allow the Cypriot people to democratically decide the destiny of their own island. Unfortunately this was denied to us.

We seek no vengeance at all. Seeking democracy were the human rights of all are respected is called "vengeance"? We do not ask for the punishment of anybody for what happened in the past. We are willing to forgive all, as long as we are finally allowed to have democracy and human rights without foreign troops on our lands.

On the other hand the Turks want to continue the illegal occupation of our lands, and to continue violating our rights. So who is looking for vengeance viewpoint? You are!

I want protection from a community who wants to give 100% of Cyprus to Greece and are prepared to wipe out anyone in their way. You can thank the Turkish Army for 34 years of peaceful exsistence, where no one was killed for teir ethnic origins or their belief that Cyprus should not be given to Greece.

When was Cyprus ever Greek??

Cyprus has been Greek for 1000s of years. It has a Greek culture going back 3500 years and its population is 82% Greek.

Rubbish! Cyprus has never been Greek and NEVER has been a Gree island. If you have any dates when Cyprus was a part of Greece let us see these dates. But try not to re-write history. :wink::wink:

Nobody wanted to wipe out your minority.

You personally maybe didn't because you weren;t even born back in the 50s/60/ but the majority of your were prepared and even attempted to genoicde us TCs for their ENOSIS dream. One of them even still posts in this forum and has admitted he was an ENOSIS supporter who probably killed TCs for his dream.

What we wanted was simply the freedom of Cyprus as it happened to several other Greek islands and territories before. And then you attacked us again...

Freedom for Cyprus like other Greek islands?

Since when is ENOSIS with Greece "freedom for Cyprus" FFS?

But even when we compromised our rights, and we accepted for Cyprus not to be united with the rest of Greece, you still collaborated with the British in order to give to Cyprus a fake undemocratic "independence" instead of a true one as it happens in all other countries of the world, so Turkey and UK could keep their control over our island.

I think everyone here has realised that you are getting your knickers in a twist while trying to re-write history and lie.

Have another go at lying maybe you'll get it right next time. :roll::roll::rol::roll:

The Cypriots will continue to fight for democracy and human rights, and for our self-determination on our own island.

The right and "democratic" thing to do back in 1963 was to honour your signature you put on the 1960 agrement and not try ENOSIS by murdering your Turkish Cypriot neighbours for your ENOSIS dream.

First you tried to take away our homes, lands, lives and democratic human rights and now you cry crocodile tears for yours? You are a bloody joke, one that should be laughed at for half a minute and then forgotten.

All foreign troops should leave from our country.

You GCs brought in the first Greek FOREIGN troops to help you with genociding us TCs now show some good will and get rid of them. Send them back to where they belong if you are serious about peace with us TCs. As long as the FOREIGN Greek trops are in Cyprus the Turkish Army isn't going anywhere, get that in to your thick skull.

Mr Plonker at it again , genocide , my arse .Plonker go join your motherland , Cyprus has always belonged to the Cypriots not the Turks or The Greeks but to Cypriots. It appears to me that you are no more of a Cypriot than Coffee Annan !!
CYPRUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN CYPRIOT !!!!

STFU you old senile twat, of all the people you as an ENOSIS supporter have no right what so ever to claim that Cyprus has always been Cypriot.

But of course back then when you wanted ENOSIS and was murdering your neighbours the "Cypriots" were only the GCs but now that you can't get your dream ENOSIS you have supposedly "changed" your mind and we are now all Cypriots, that is untill you get your "majority" rules democract crap and show your true ugly mug again and start murdering your neigbours who are against your wishes.

The island is divided and divided it will stay becasue no one trusts you Greeks and GCs to keep your word, you have proven that you can't many a times.

[Get Real!]

You forgot to add that had Turkey not intervened in 1974 the TCs would have all been butcherd by the GCs and the Greeks who invaded Cyprus in 1963 Jerry.

Right, so on the grounds that TCs "might be butchered" you saw fit to assist the Turks in butchering the GCs and beat them to it... neat!

[Eric dayi]

Your history of Cyprus is so corrupt it beggars belief.

Why don't you post your version of the events instead of barking from the side?

Why don;t you help your Greek countryman GR, he sure can use your help.

[Get Real!]

Your history of Cyprus is so corrupt it beggars belief.

Why don't you post your version of the events instead of barking from the side?

Why don;t you help your Greek countryman GR, he sure can use your help.

Sure, how about I come after your arse and force you to vomit the "credible links" from which you get your information?

[Eric dayi]

You forgot to add that had Turkey not intervened in 1974 the TCs would have all been butcherd by the GCs and the Greeks who invaded Cyprus in 1963 Jerry.

Right, so on the grounds that TCs "might be butchered" you saw fit to assist the Turks in butchering the GCs and beat them to it... neat!

No GR, don't be so stupid, we waited 11 long years for you to change your mind but when you didn't and tried it again in 1974 then we TCs did what every species on this planet does to survive. And even then we never went as far as trying to eliminate you Greeks and GCs completely from Cyprus as you tried with us, we left you 2 thirds of the island but you are greedy and still want all of it.

BTW GR, what does your communist "President" want GR? Does he want the "one man one vote" crap like you and TPaps did or is he in talks with us TCs for a BBF?

[Eric dayi]

Your history of Cyprus is so corrupt it beggars belief.

Why don't you post your version of the events instead of barking from the side?

Why don;t you help your Greek countryman GR, he sure can use your help.

Sure, how about I come after your arse and force you to vomit the "credible links" from which you get your information?

Forget about my "links" GR and show us your "credible links". Prove to us that Cyprus was a Greek island anytime in the history of the world. I'm sure that a "purveyer of fine misinformation since 1571" like yourself has some proof.