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GC Villages under Turkish ocupation

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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:44 pm

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roseandchan wrote:if you go back through history you could have any number of people claiming its their ancient land.
just did a quick history lesson and cyprus had human settlement from about 5800bc. the neolithic cypriots origin is uncertian. artifacts of anatolian obsidan suggest that the settlers related to the people of asia minor, modern day turkey.
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Could you please continue in your research and find out when the first Turkic tribes began arriving in Asia Minor? While you're at it find out who lived there before.

just to get the ball rolling

After 1400 B.C., Mycenaean and Mycenaean-Achaean traders from the northeastern Peloponnesus began regular commercial visits to the island. Settlers from the same areas arrived in large numbers toward the end of the Trojan War (traditionally dated about 1184 B.C.). Even in modern times, a strip of the northern coast was known as the Achaean Coast in commemoration of those early settlers. The newcomers spread the use of their spoken language and introduced a script that greatly facilitated commerce. They also introduced the potter's wheel and began producing pottery that eventually was carried by traders to many mainland markets. By the end of the second millennium B.C., a distinctive culture had developed on Cyprus. The island's culture was tempered and enriched by its position as a crossroads for the commerce of three continents, but in essence it was distinctively Hellenic. It is to this 3,000 years of Hellenic tradition that the present-day Greek Cypriots refer when arguing either for enosis or for their own dominance in an independent state.


This a no win game, in my opinion. The only hope for world peace is to recognise the world order under the UN. These means that whoever happened to be inhabiting a particular territory at the end of World War II has the right to self determination within that territory. It's like muiscal chairs, I know, if you look at things within a broad historical concept. The Indo-European peoples who now inhabit virtually all of Europe migrated there from the east in the distant past. If you expel them, who do you give Europe back to?
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Postby roseandchan » Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:49 pm

i'm not a historian and never wanted to be. its a bit like which came first the chicken or the egg?
speak later i'm off for a nap, since being up since 4am.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:14 pm

roseandchan wrote:if you go back through history you could have any number of people claiming its their ancient land.
just did a quick history lesson and cyprus had human settlement from about 5800bc. the neolithic cypriots origin is uncertian. artifacts of anatolian obsidan suggest that the settlers related to the people of asia minor, modern day turkey.
www.country-studies.com


Yes rose ... they were Greeks and Greek derived ... long before what you know as Turks came along from the East and ethnically cleansed Anatolia of the original inhabitants, who had been there for thousands of years.

The Turks as you know them, have only been this far West for just a few hundred years. That is nothing in the history of the ancient cultures that flourished in these parts before the Ottoman's initiated the cleansing from indigenous-people.
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Postby T_C » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:28 pm

Get over it, it happened all over the world...
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Postby Oracle » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:39 pm

Rizokarpaso ... let us not forget ..... another Turkish annihilation story .....

http://www.rizokarpason.com/GB/press5.htm
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Postby anna-sh » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:06 pm

going back to the first post! my in-laws are from akanthou, when the borders first opened there house was boarded up, on the 2nd visit it had been opened & now has a mainland turk & his moldavian wife plus 3 kids living in it :!: She said they had been given it 3mnths after the borders opened :!: The very famous church in the village has been stripped of everything & is now used as a mosque :twisted:

It really p***** me off when we go to the village & all these gypsy`s are walking around looking at you as if you have no right to be there :evil:

Even my husbands school in the village has a HUGE Turkish flag draped over it (not a trnc flag which is bad enough!) but TURKISH!

When will it ever end :?: :(
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:15 pm

anna-sh wrote:....Even my husbands school in the village has a HUGE Turkish flag draped over it (not a trnc flag which is bad enough!) but TURKISH!

When will it ever end :?: :(

If and when Greek Cypriots will say “enough is enough” and be prepared to die for the liberation of their country. There is no other way I’m afraid so don’t let politicians fool you...
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:16 pm

anna-sh wrote:going back to the first post! my in-laws are from akanthou, when the borders first opened there house was boarded up, on the 2nd visit it had been opened & now has a mainland turk & his moldavian wife plus 3 kids living in it :!: She said they had been given it 3mnths after the borders opened :!: The very famous church in the village has been stripped of everything & is now used as a mosque :twisted:

It really p***** me off when we go to the village & all these gypsy`s are walking around looking at you as if you have no right to be there :evil:

Even my husbands school in the village has a HUGE Turkish flag draped over it (not a trnc flag which is bad enough!) but TURKISH!

When will it ever end :?: :(


Well hello its been 34 years since the island was divided, you visited the TRNC where we are in control not the GCs, if you dont like it stay in the GC south.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
anna-sh wrote:going back to the first post! my in-laws are from akanthou, when the borders first opened there house was boarded up, on the 2nd visit it had been opened & now has a mainland turk & his moldavian wife plus 3 kids living in it :!: She said they had been given it 3mnths after the borders opened :!: The very famous church in the village has been stripped of everything & is now used as a mosque :twisted:

It really p***** me off when we go to the village & all these gypsy`s are walking around looking at you as if you have no right to be there :evil:

Even my husbands school in the village has a HUGE Turkish flag draped over it (not a trnc flag which is bad enough!) but TURKISH!

When will it ever end :?: :(


Well hello its been 34 years since the island was divided, you visited the TRNC where we are in control not the GCs, if you dont like it stay in the GC south.

I piss on your 34 years and I tell you this from the bottom of my heart.

The Turkish military had no problems whatsoever uprooting 180k odd indigenous people of Cyprus who had been there for MILLENIUMS so why would I care about the temporary bollocks you’re running, or for any of the foreigners you’ve since brought in?

You mean NOTHING to me.
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Postby anna-sh » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:27 pm

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`If i don`t like it stay in the south`is that what you say to all the tcs who come over here for work & hospitals etc, plus all the expats who don`t want reunification but are more than happy to do there shopping over here :!:
Throw out the settlers & give back the gcs whats rightfully theres :twisted:
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